Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Thanks for confirming.

Amazing to see the selective level of detail that you picked up from across the streed.


I've never suggested any criteria for people being able to complain about anything. Complain away, and expect others to fill in the gaps that you leave.

Sorry but its easy to see a speed gun or someone breaking a light from across a street it's not so easy to see a phone in a car and also impossible to hear what the police were saying.

By your standards only the highest crime should be stopped. So let's stop investigations into financial crime cause it takes away from drug related crime.

kenmm wrote: »

There is a lot of whstaboutary on these threads, from ALL angles. But one thing that wind me up is the grouping/homogenisation of groups of people.

It's not the same cyclists that are defending the dick head cyclists.

I hear what you're saying, but I've found it difficult not to generalise about cyclists given how many of them:

• Are extremists.
• Tell you that cyclists are a hive mind and that we should generalise them.

A good example is below:

what_traffic wrote: »

He is a paid motoring lobbiest who also just happens to cycle to work. He respresents the interests of those (motorists) - who at end of the day pay his salary.

Conor Faughan may be a person who regularly uses a bicycle, even daily, but he's not really a "cyclist" because he does not have the "correct" politics for a real "cyclist."

Given how many cyclists seem to hold similar views to that poster, it is very difficult sometimes not to agree.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I rarely see Gardai on foot patrol anymore, but for those that are - yes, they are capable of pulling up law-breaking cyclists, just as they are capable of pulling up the 98% of drivers who break urban speed limits.

Doesn't a Garda require speed monitoring equipment to determine a motorists' speed? How often do Gardai on foot patrol carry that kind of gear around? And how does the Garda on foot patrol catch up to a speeding motorists considering they are on foot and the driver is "speeding" away?

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Funnily enough, there really does seem to be something special about yourself and Tauren, who seem to live is some kind of Bermuda Triangle parallel universe that the rest of us just don't seem to see.

Well this part is simply a lie. This thread was started by a pedestrian, neither myself nor Tauren, and there were a few other pedestrians who also shared their experiences of having to negotiate with two-wheeled lawbreakers, usually followed by your good self jumping down their throat with "but motorists kill people" in one case it took you only six minutes to jump down a pedestrians throat with your deflections. I also posted a Liveline recording where yet more people talked about their experiences sharing footpaths with two-wheeled lawbreakers.

So the idea that just me and Taruen have noticed the behaviour of cyclists is just a straight up lie.

This seems to be a good distance from the reality of the roads/paths in Ireland.

You have shown your determination to deflect from the fact that Irish cyclists are totally unregulated and it shows. That does not change the fact that Irish cyclists are totally unregulated, and it shows in their appalling behaviour.

Yes, most speed enforcement is done by cameras.

That doesn't change the fact that a Garda who chooses to pull a cyclist at any time could instead be pulling a motorist, given that it is motorists that kill people on the roads each week.

That's a fact. There is no option not to believe a fact. It's a fact.

Do I hear the sound of goalposts shifting? Your claim throughout this thread has been very clear. Cracking down on lawbreakers on bikes would detract from the supposedly much needed enforcement for motorists.

Any implication of this kind is misleading. Any implication that an appropriate level of enforcement targeting motorists (whatever level that might be) and a modicum of enforcement against two-wheeled lawbreakers are mutually exclusive is false, especially given that enforcement methods for both modes differ.

If this is aimed at me, I'd challenge anyone to point out a post where I defended dickhead cyclists?

Does the Chewbacca defense count?


Just spout a bunch of irrelevant crap to deflect and distract.

kenmm wrote: »

That's how you see things, but it's not really relevent (I mean your inability to stop generalising)?

It also suggest an angle of pre judgment- IE no matter how well someone is cycling, you already have them marked as a 'problem' due to some negative experiences in the past (it's true that some cyclists also do the same with other road users).

This cannot be healthy, as it means there is little anyone can say or do to change these preconceptions.

Actually, since I started participating in this thread, when driving, I've become more aware of cyclists and the hazards that might take them into my path. Like the securicor van parked outside the shops on Westland Row forcing bikes out from the cycle lane, for example.(*)

I've welcomed the new cycle lane on the quays even though it's a loss of space for cars, too.

I'm giving someone driving lessons at the moment and drill into them the need to give cyclists clearance when overtaking, and to not overtake unless there is clearance. And to beware their unpredictable nature.

They can still get the eff out of my way when I'm walking down the footpath, though, and the look of surprise on their faces when they realise I'm not getting out of their way is always amusing. Almost as incredulous looking as me, when I'm stopped at lights at a junction and see someone on a bike not even slow, as they break the red.

* As a logical person, I recognise it makes no sense to have delivery vans and security vans park on the opposite side. Also as a logical person, I have to wonder why the cycle lane wasn't put in as a contraflow on the other side of the road.

Stark wrote: »

Where is this happening out of curiosity?

Pembroke Street, Baggot Street, Leeson St, Stephen's Green, Grafton St, King St, Stephen Street (though there it's usually cycling against the one-way system).

Sean O'Casey footbridge? I've never used it in peak times and did not have to negotiate with at least 4 two-wheeled lawbreakers. Even in the off-peak, you can expect to see lawbreakers playing zoom-zoom on it.

But nobody died ...

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Did they have engines on their bikes? How are they managing to play the zoom zoom games without an engine, or do they make the engine noises themselves?

I like to make X-wing sounds when I cycle

SeanW wrote: »

Sean O'Casey footbridge? I've never used it in peak times and did not have to negotiate with at least 4 two-wheeled lawbreakers. Even in the off-peak, you can expect to see lawbreakers playing zoom-zoom on it.

I visited derry this year on my stayction and walked over the peace bridge. It reminded me of the sean o'casey except - guess what - it has a sign specifically permitting cyclists and pedestrians. This works out perfectly. I'd use the sean o'casey a good bit and have zero issues with pedestrians and cyclists sharing it. Or perhaps a solution is to built another bridge at huge expense for cyclists only along side it?

Spook_ie wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CitizenW0lf/status/1294638504257957888

He has a trilogy jacket on......he's a fu(king cyclist.

He's a complete idiot.

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I visited derry this year on my stayction and walked over the peace bridge. It reminded me of the sean o'casey except - guess what - it has a sign specifically permitting cyclists and pedestrians. This works out perfectly. I'd use the sean o'casey a good bit and have zero issues with pedestrians and cyclists sharing it. Or perhaps a solution is to built another bridge at huge expense for cyclists only along side it?

Or perhaps a solution is for the cyclists to obey the signs, dismount, and walk across?