FF/FG/Green Next Government

Ten of Swords · 22-08-2020 04:21PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Last time you "walked away from this forum" was after you spent days defending Barry Cowen to the hilt over his drink driving/provisional license/u-Turn/guards are liar accusations. You then became the scarlet pimpernel for a while, only to reappear with the exact same baloney, obfuscation and waffle.

If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen momma.

I see a pattern emerging.

McMurphy wrote: »

It was headlines on their site yesterday shef - this is a new day - dear Mary mother of god you're hard work.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It’s called having a life. Something you clearly do not have outside boards. I’m sure it very rewarding sitting on a computer day after day abusing random people you don’t know.....best of luck with the rest of it....

McMurphy and Shefwedfan (and others) stop the personal remarks. Cards and threadbans if it continues

Hawthorn Tree · 22-08-2020 07:47PM

Leo could not lay a finger on Dara Murphy who extorted fake expenses from the taxpayer while double jobbing in Brussels. What chance does he have of reprimanding Trickle Hogan??

James Brown · 22-08-2020 08:02PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Leo could not lay a finger on Dara Murphy who extorted fake expenses from the taxpayer while double jobbing in Brussels. What chance does he have of reprimanding Trickle Hogan??

TBF he knew what Murphy was at the whole time and allowed it. He then pretended to give a **** when it was published in the media.

McMurphy · 22-08-2020 08:12PM

Making the correct noise, but it's half hearted I reckon.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1297259571543715842?s=09

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 08:28PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Making the correct noise, but it's half hearted I reckon.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1297259571543715842?s=09

If he refuses and FG do not kick him out of the party then it is just cynical window dressing

McMurphy · 22-08-2020 08:32PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If he refuses and FG do not kick him out of the party then it is just cynical window dressing

Or........

Sunday papers have something on him blatantly breaking quarantine restrictions and he's been exposed as a liar, so they're covering their arses as if they got there first.

I'm reading lots of speculation about who Brian Hayes guests were on the night also, but that's not yet been confirmed.

Like Barry Cowens episode, there's plenty of road in this one yet. There'll be loads of squeaky holes in the Dail next week (which is being recalled apparently)

FFG in it together right up to their gonads.

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 08:39PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Or........

Sunday papers have something on him blatantly breaking quarantine restrictions and he's been exposed as a liar, so they're covering their arses as if they got there first.

I'm reading lots of speculation about who Brian Hayes guests were on the night also, but that's not yet been confirmed.

Like Barry Cowens episode, there's plenty of road in this one yet. There'll be loads of squeaky holes in the Dail next week (which is being recalled apparently)

FFG in it together right up to their gonads.

Brian Hayes guests? Can you reveal?

Patser · 22-08-2020 08:47PM

https://twitter.com/KatieGHannon/status/1297269597356339202

Big booboo here by Katie Hannon, she tweeted that Govt to recall Dail - complete with a big banner saying this is embargoed until after midnight, do not report.

So looks like Big Phil is in trouble, and the Dail is being recalled. What a big mess for a round of golf and a meal

gifted · 22-08-2020 08:49PM

Patser wrote: »

https://twitter.com/KatieGHannon/status/1297269597356339202

Big booboo here by Katie Hannon, she tweeted that Govt to recall Dail - complete with a big banner saying this is embargoed until after midnight, do not report.

So looks like Big Phil is in trouble, and the Dail is being recalled. What a big mess for a round of golf and a meal

What does embargoed mean?

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 08:51PM

Is that a favour given to select journalists? Embargoed emails?

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 08:53PM

gifted wrote: »

What does embargoed mean?

'Keep it to yourself' until the appointed time.

Scoondal · 22-08-2020 09:09PM

Only the EU commission can sack Hogan.
The government needs to make their opinion very clear to Ursula von der Leyen.

flutered · 22-08-2020 09:10PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Brian Hayes guests? Can you reveal?

something about vulture funds i hear, on another thread here

Scoondal · 22-08-2020 09:45PM

A journalist was prevented from asking a government minister a question ?
Video on Independant website.
I never thought that I would see this in Ireland. North Korea, yes ... in Ireland ?

McMurphy · 22-08-2020 09:47PM

Scoondal wrote: »

A journalist was prevented from asking a government minister a question ?
Video on Independant website.
I never thought that I would see this in Ireland. North Korea, yes ... in Ireland ?

Stephen Donnelly I assume?

Apparently the person who stopped the questioning is herself, an ex journalist.

dundalkfc10 · 22-08-2020 09:50PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Only the EU commission can sack Hogan.
The government needs to make their opinion very clear to Ursula von der Leyen.

https://twitter.com/sundayworld/status/1297277239315386370?s=19

Scoondal · 22-08-2020 10:01PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Stephen Donnelly I assume?

Apparently the person who stopped the questioning is herself, an ex journalist.

A public relations manager acting like she is in North Korea. She should be sacked too. Clean out all the arrogant people. What country do they think that they are living in ?

Hawthorn Tree · 22-08-2020 10:03PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Only the EU commission can sack Hogan.
The government needs to make their opinion very clear to Ursula von der Leyen.

I am going to email Ursula with my thoughts.

Edgware · 22-08-2020 10:09PM

Patser wrote: »

https://twitter.com/KatieGHannon/status/1297269597356339202

Big booboo here by Katie Hannon, she tweeted that Govt to recall Dail - complete with a big banner saying this is embargoed until after midnight, do not report.

So looks like Big Phil is in trouble, and the Dail is being recalled. What a big mess for a round of golf and a meal

It's not the first time Katie boobooed.

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 10:55PM

A fair summing up here. This is why Leo and Michael are squirming around trying to hold on to control. This is how we are run and I think the penny is dropping for many. The omerta around this stuff has been suspected for a long tme. It has been blown wide open for all to see by two journalists who had to cancel their own wedding.

https://twitter.com/SJTHolland/status/1296800571660304385

Jizique · 22-08-2020 11:00PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

I am going to email Ursula with my thoughts.

Make sure you mail Farage as well so that he can join your bandwagon

Scoondal · 22-08-2020 11:21PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A fair summing up here. This is why Leo and Michael are squirming around trying to hold on to control. This is how we are run and I think the penny is dropping for many. The omerta around this stuff has been suspected for a long tme. It has been blown wide open for all to see by two journalists who had to cancel their own wedding.

https://twitter.com/SJTHolland/status/1296800571660304385

Yes. I am over 50, but I am shocked at the whole cozy relationship between TDs, EU commissioners, judges and rte media personalities.
I thought this was finished 10 years ago.
There is a horrible smell starting to come out of Irish politics again.
And RTE have questions to answer about their "impartial" news articles.
This is not about Clifden anymore. It's about the elite of Irish society keeping ordinary people in check.
If EU want Ireland onboard, they should sack Mr Hogan. Then we need a clear out of over paid media "handlers". We elect TDs. .... they can speak their own thoughts. If they need a PR consultant they are not fit for public office.

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 11:31PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Yes. I am over 50, but I am shocked at the whole cozy relationship between TDs, EU commissioners, judges and rte media personalities.
I thought this was finished 10 years ago.
There is a horrible smell starting to come out of Irish politics again.
And RTE have questions to answer about their "impartial" news articles.
This is not about Clifden anymore. It's about the elite of Irish society keeping ordinary people in check.
If EU want Ireland onboard, they should sack Mr Hogan. Then we need a clear out of over paid media "handlers". We elect TDs. .... they can speak their own thoughts. If they need a PR consultant they are not fit for public office.

The embargoed email...basically the government TRYING to control the story and our journalists played along. Need you know more?
Who got that email and why are they complying so easily in controlling how this unfolds?

Coillte_Bhoy · 22-08-2020 11:41PM

Whats with the embargoed email? Im not getting it, why would it be ok to release it at midnight but not an hour before??

nc6000 · 22-08-2020 11:43PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Yes. I am over 50, but I am shocked at the whole cozy relationship between TDs, EU commissioners, judges and rte media personalities.
I thought this was finished 10 years ago.
There is a horrible smell starting to come out of Irish politics again.
And RTE have questions to answer about their "impartial" news articles.
This is not about Clifden anymore. It's about the elite of Irish society keeping ordinary people in check.
If EU want Ireland onboard, they should sack Mr Hogan. Then we need a clear out of over paid media "handlers". We elect TDs. .... they can speak their own thoughts. If they need a PR consultant they are not fit for public office.

Might as well add Opus Dei to that list according to what I've heard.

McMurphy · 23-08-2020 12:21AM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Whats with the embargoed email? Im not getting it, why would it be ok to release it at midnight but not an hour before??

Sunday papers would be my guess?

Scoondal · 23-08-2020 12:40AM

If someone wrote a tv drama along these lines, reviewers would say ... good but not really believable. Ireland is a political ****hole of a country.
France and Philippines are far advanced countries from my experience.

Scoondal · 23-08-2020 12:46AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The embargoed email...basically the government TRYING to control the story and our journalists played along. Need you know more?
Who got that email and why are they complying so easily in controlling how this unfolds?

The journalists are being told WHEN to publish facts.
Other journalists are being told NOT to ask certain questions.
What is going on in Ireland. This is not the place that I grew up in.
East Germany and stazi is comparable.

Scoondal · 23-08-2020 12:48AM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Whats with the embargoed email? Im not getting it, why would it be ok to release it at midnight but not an hour before??

State censorship. You know, like North Korea ... the media there can't ask or say things either.

James Brown · 23-08-2020 12:49AM

Scoondal wrote: »

The journalists are being told WHEN to publish facts.
Other journalists are being told NOT to ask certain questions.
What is going on in Ireland. This is not the place that I grew up in.
East Germany and stazi is comparable.

I would imagine it was worse under Haughey. Maybe not as bad now but more widespread with the journos trying to keep perspective employers sweet.

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