Gotham Knights/Court of Owls (WB Montreal)

J. Marston wrote: »

Mentioned it in the other thread but a reworking of Death in the Family would be cool. Batman is killed and you play as either Batgirl and/or Robin trying to unravel the mystery of who did it. It would be a fresh direction to take. If you wanted to talk styles, maybe Batgirl could be the more methodical detective and Robin is out for blood as revenge.

We've had 4 or 5 games as Batman now, stay in the universe but switch it up.

Yeah, really like that idea. Playing as Catwoman in AC was a good change of pace, but I found playing as Nightwing/Robin/Batgirl etc in some of the DLCs for AK felt just like playing the same game under a different skin, and with less powers.

I'd love a real focus on the detective aspects of it - even the simple addition of dialogue trees would add a different angle to the current approach, which can get very formulaic.

My wishlist would be a Witcher 3 style scenario where what you do has real consequences for the story i.e. you focus on one threat, and a different threat becomes the main challenge, villains teaming up depending on what you do

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It will probably be a standard Arkham Combat open world game but maybe it could be something more and do more with the open world as people as saying. I heard Origins is a pretty good game other than the awful bugs that never got fixed, some would say better than Arkham City. Hopefully it's in good hands.

I just saw today, I have a PS Now shortcut on my XMB giving me another 7 day free trial, worth it to play Origins alone. That's the most tempting out the all the Arkham games at the moment.

https://twitter.com/GothamKnights/status/1297225987633975296?s=19

It actually looks like it's gonna compete more with the marvel Avengers game than a regular Arkham game. Not a big fan of the health bars and numbers popping out of enemies but looking at it as a game that has a story but also dynamic open world to team up and take down bad guys, sounds like a more live service game than solid single player. At least it looks more fun than what i played of the avengers but i think this is capped at 2 player. Interesting to see how it develops.

Edit: going from social media, people are NOT happy but then again when are they.

Varik wrote: »

Robin is definitely Tim, and they used a different Court of Owls rhyme.

Yep it's Tim.

Character descriptions from the main site



Red Hood
Jason Todd is an intense and volatile anti-hero. It all stems from dying a violent death and then being forcibly resurrected by one of Batman’s most dangerous foes. He has trouble keeping his temper in check, but he will not hesitate to step into the line of fire when a friend is threatened. Red Hood wants crime to pay because Gotham City is built on a foundation of corruption, and he’s been on the receiving end of it far too often.

Jason has trained to reach the peak of human strength, and he’s proficient in multiple combat techniques with all manner of weapons—both traditional and high-tech. After reconciling with the Batman Family, he has embraced Batman’s non-lethal combat methods.



Robin
Tim Drake may be the youngest of the Batman Family but he’s also the smartest and a master of deductive reasoning. Tim is a true believer in Batman’s mission and is motivated by the conviction that Gotham City needs a hero rather than by personal loss. Batman was a mentor of the highest caliber who personified the type of man Tim hopes to become.

An expert fighter armed with his collapsible quarterstaff and skilled in the art of stealth, Tim also possesses a background in combined psychological warfare and behavioral sciences, all of which sets the stage for him to accomplish any mission.



Batgirl
Few people can match Barbara Gordon in terms of raw willpower and determination. Barbara has always been a person of action. In her mind, backing down is never an option. Having one of Gotham City’s most well-known police commissioners as a father had a massive impact on her. Jim Gordon gave his life for Gotham, and now she wants to make sure it wasn’t in vain. After a face-off that put Barbara in a wheelchair, she became Oracle, a powerful information and communications expert. But her father’s death spurred her to train and recover from her wounds so that she could return to active duty as Batgirl.

Barbara is highly trained in a variety of fighting styles, such as kickboxing, capoeira, and jiu-jitsu. Her signature weapon is the tonfa. Barbara also displays great skill when it comes to hacking or coding in computers and technological systems to dig for information.


Nightwing
Dick Grayson is a natural leader, an optimist, and the most charismatic of the Batman Family. He grew up in an unorthodox but loving circus family, so he values close personal bonds. Dick believes that, for the fight to be worth it, there must be something real to fight for; and that something has always been other people. He was Batman’s first protégé before ecoming a hero in his own right.

Dick boasts mastery in acrobatics and is an expert at taking down enemies with his signature dual escrima sticks.

Batgirl is a bit too sexualised for my tastes.

Runs.

Mr Crispy wrote: »

In the gameplay trailer with the developer commentary, he mentions Robin teleporting using the Justice League satellite.... I wonder if this will be set in the same universe as Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League? Maybe that's how Batman's dead! :pac:

The Suicide Squad game game is set in the arkham verse, 1-4 player co-op like avengers.

I see the biggest compliant on reddit is that this seems to have lost the free flow combat and is more akin to regular rpg action which i think is a bit harsh. I went back to Arkham Knight and finished the nightwing, robin and catwoman dlc's. Was grand but didn't get much out of playing it again.

Suicide squad trailer gave me no desire to replay arkham games but The Batman movie trailer makes me seriously want to play through arkham origins again as it's set in year 2. Trailer looks bloody brilliant!

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Like I said in the Suicide Squad game, this looks like it's geared towards co-op. I get there's a lot of characters, but I prefer controlling 1. Not sure what to make of this tbh, and there's probably a good explanation (not actual bullets?!), but Red Hood is shooting everyone. I'm not sure on this. Will need more.

In the character bio on the website, it says after Jason reconciled with the Bat family, he came around to their non-lethal attacks so I'm guessing rubber bullets.

Was kinda hoping the next Batman game would be done more like Spiderman, storytelling between Bruce and Batman. In a gotham full of life, people actually walking the streets.. And not another eternal night setting in a city literally full of criminals and nothing else to constantly beat on very easily..

Its just more of the same and i got bored of that after the second game

nix wrote: »

Was kinda hoping the next Batman game would be done more like Spiderman, storytelling between Bruce and Batman. In a gotham full of life, people actually walking the streets.. And not another eternal night setting in a city literally full of criminals and nothing else to constantly beat on very easily..

Its just more of the same and i got bored of that after the second game

Even if they wanted to go with the Bat-Family, they could have done a game where you control each at different points, or where their stories intertwine with each other as they try investigate whatever big event is happening in the city. See events from their different perspectives mixed with their own individual sections and storylines until it all comes together at the end. Then after the story you can free-roam or do challenges or smaller side-missions as any of them. You could still put loot stuff in it as you'll eventually be playing as all the characters anyway so even if you picked up a piece of Robin equipment as Nightwing, you could still use it for Robin later in the story.

The online co-op way of doing things, I just think you lose a lot from a single-player experience that the Arkham games were always brilliant at. The combat and stealth is fundamentally changed if it's just piles of goons with numbers and health bars because the game has to tailor to each character's playstyle, abilities, and possible co-op.

Might go back to Arkham Origins, the only thing I was missing for the platinum was the last few challenge rooms.

PS3 got stuck in a boot loop so I'd need to swap out the HDD and install fresh firmware and then pop old one back.

That or try PS now and see if saves work.

Zero-Cool wrote: »

You got the multiplayer trophies? Was that mode any good? I didn't give it much chance but would love if they reopened the servers for it.

You'd have 5 minutes of a good game and then either half the team would be kicked or you wouldn't even get that as they'd get kicked when joining in at the start, and there was no refilling players or joining live games.

Even when the game was new the matchmaking would stick you in a 1 v 1 game where you'd just take turns as the hero whaling on each other until someone quit: normal game was 6 goons vs 2 heroes.

One of the trophies required a full lobby and it to stay that way for the full game which was next to impossible, and then you'd have something equally hard to do.

I got the trophies and never went back to it, and a working version in this new game would be great. I don't think I've ever played a more broken mp game.