Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

178101213438

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭giles lynchwood


    Say a prayer for me Barney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭smodgley


    Detector dogs sniff out €50,000 worth of drugs at Dublin mail centre in packages labelled 'facemasks' and 'teddy bear'
    https://buff.ly/3ldeV90


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Prisoner 0922156


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/slain-criminal-robbie-lawlor-watched-22549245

    I thought it was widely established Lawlor was nowhere near the scene at the time and was seen on CCTV at a pub with ***** ******* ?
    If not, why wasnt he lifted before he was killed if they were that confident?
    I call BS on this article as the dead can't sue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Jayz, Gorman looks like he's carrying more than a few extra pounds but he's a stone lighter and four inches taller than Turner.

    It's not a physique contest and for a big man he's lightning quick, skillful and awesome powerful.

    I'd say a lot of professional heavyweights reached their peak the night they lost to him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭beerbellybob


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/slain-criminal-robbie-lawlor-watched-22549245

    I thought it was widely established Lawlor was nowhere near the scene at the time and was seen on CCTV at a pub with ***** ******* ?
    If not, why wasnt he lifted before he was killed if they were that confident?
    I call BS on this article as the dead can't sue.

    Define "widely established" am sure you dont just mean conjecture in this thread?

    i have read that he wasnt there as well but only in this thread-to me it makes more sense that he was present but thats just my opinion.

    as far as not being lifted-i dont remember anyone being lifted until at least a month after which is toatally ridiculaous since everyone and there mother seemed to know exactly who was involeved.

    PC is not even charged yet for the myrder.

    hard to believe these monsters were that good at covering thier tracks but maybe?

    justice or charging someone for this should be pretty high up on the list-as this article states it shocked the wole nation but doesnt seem like anything is moving along...


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭Kaizer Sosa


    It's not a physique contest and for a big man he's lightning quick, skillful and awesome powerful.

    I'd say a lot of professional heavyweights reached their peak the night they lost to him.

    My critique was of Turner. I do think a boxers physique speaks to their professionalism though. Look at the Klitschkos, AJ, Lennox Lewis. If Turner had their body fat %, he'd be operating at middle weight and not heavy weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    My critique was of Turner. I do think a boxers physique speaks to their professionalism though. Look at the Klitschkos, AJ, Lennox Lewis. If Turner had their body fat %, he'd be operating at middle weight and not heavy weight.

    You specifically said you thought Gorman was carrying more than a few extra pounds.

    A boxers physique or lack of it is not an indication of how serious they apply themselves to the sport, it's not a physique contest.

    Look at Gorman's cousin, Tyson Fury. He's never going to be mistaken for a bodybuilder yet no one can beat him in the ring.

    No one judges bodybuilders on their ability to box either because the two sports aren't even remotely related.


  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Larsso30


    You specifically said you thought Gorman was carrying more than a few extra pounds.

    A boxers physique or lack of it is not an indication of how serious they apply themselves to the sport, it's not a physique contest.

    Look at Gorman's cousin, Tyson Fury. He's never going to be mistaken for a bodybuilder yet no one can beat him in the ring.

    No one judges bodybuilders on their ability to box either because the two sports aren't even remotely related.

    To be fair, Turner far to small a man for HW. Should of been at cruiser at very least.

    I remember when he signed with mtk,he seemed to love been over there and posted plenty on FB after the regency that he had to take down (got a call from above id say).


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭MTKcleaners


    Certainly not new news but why does everybody get arrested around the cancer crew, except cancer, no wonder the DEA got an invite to his wedding, bet CIA and MI5 had their table also.

    http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/iran-allegedly-protects-moroccan-dutch-drug-gangsters-it-used-to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,783 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Certainly not new news but why does everybody get arrested around the cancer crew, except cancer, no wonder the DEA got an invite to his wedding, bet CIA and MI5 had their table also.

    http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/iran-allegedly-protects-moroccan-dutch-drug-gangsters-it-used-to

    Bit like your posts


  • Advertisement
  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Looks like pretty big news, will it create a power vacuum in Drogheda now that Price is off the scene.

    will in its sh1te no matter who gets lifted in drugs anywhere the supply will always be kept going by someone, besides there's more than just bs and price supplying drogheda


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 cknfriedrice1


    Define "widely established" am sure you dont just mean conjecture in this thread?

    i have read that he wasnt there as well but only in this thread-to me it makes more sense that he was present but thats just my opinion.

    as far as not being lifted-i dont remember anyone being lifted until at least a month after which is toatally ridiculaous since everyone and there mother seemed to know exactly who was involeved.

    PC is not even charged yet for the myrder.

    hard to believe these monsters were that good at covering thier tracks but maybe?

    justice or charging someone for this should be pretty high up on the list-as this article states it shocked the wole nation but doesnt seem like anything is moving along...


    Do they not require his torso to establish that his death was murder? I haven’t a clue who was or wasn’t involved but I would be amazed if the guards didn’t know exactly what happened and who was involved that evening seeing as there seems to be quite a number linked to the murder and there is always chatter as to what really happened.


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭Thesiger


    Seems clear enough Lawlor was involved in some way, or else why would Drogheda lads go to the effort of leaving body parts in Moatview and Ballybough?


  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭ballsdeep69


    Thesiger wrote: »
    Seems clear enough Lawlor was involved in some way, or else why would Drogheda lads go to the effort of leaving body parts in Moatview and Ballybough?

    Go back to bed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    How anyone can support that scumbag Turner, I have no idea. Delighted Nathan Gorman punched him from pillar to post. Most of the MTK boxers are B level anyway. Michael Conlan is a plank for signing with them, his brother Jamie is Head of recruitment or some BS title. Irish boxing is in the doghouse because of these type of people.

    Jamie was hired to snag Michael, I wonder was Petey hired to snag Katie? She’s too smart though

    Also Dk paid bills for a friend of Jonny nelson to snag nelson ...,see a pattern?


  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Larsso30


    Jamie was hired to snag Michael, I wonder was Petey hired to snag Katie? She’s too smart though

    mick was always going to sign there, his brother boxed for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Larsso30 wrote: »
    mick was always going to sign there, his brother boxed for them.

    Exactly what I said


  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Larsso30


    sorry, point i was making is jamie was signed up when they were signing everyone up in ireland while mick was very much still an amateur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    To the lads posting about the importance of physique in boxing lok at ruiz jr v joshua part 1 this year.
    Ok the rematch was different but every dog has its day and as some people might have heard over the years its not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog.

    Why was KMW left in ballybough? Thats what I never figured out. Pm if necessary.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Prisoner 0922156


    Define "widely established" am sure you dont just mean conjecture in this thread?

    i have read that he wasnt there as well but only in this thread-to me it makes more sense that he was present but thats just my opinion.

    as far as not being lifted-i dont remember anyone being lifted until at least a month after which is toatally ridiculaous since everyone and there mother seemed to know exactly who was involeved.

    PC is not even charged yet for the myrder.

    hard to believe these monsters were that good at covering thier tracks but maybe?

    justice or charging someone for this should be pretty high up on the list-as this article states it shocked the wole nation but doesnt seem like anything is moving along...

    There were reports in the papers around the time, but I think they got their info off social media posts from local people who are likely more credible, of him establishing a strong alibi of not being in the house at the time.
    As only one person has been charged with anything relating to it, it doesn't seem they have a strong case at all.
    The 2 who ran off to Spain and the 1 already locked up for other offences are supposed to be involved yet no charges? He was seen being dragged into the house, and by who, and they've still got zip.
    Seems suspicious, to say the least, that they "know" Lawlor stabbed him in the neck and watched him die but can't put charges on anyone. Pin it on the dead guy, case closed Sherlock!


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭John_D3


    Don’t know what to think off the targeting of boxers personally. Hutch side was well involved with MTK. Fitz a Hutch relation was signed, Gary had the wee brother out training, Mago was taking part in white collar events with Daniel the coach. It was only when the fall out came they turned on MTK and the boxers because they know its Daniels love though nobody can take seriously them judging boxers for signing with them.

    Daniel signed Jamie personally probably because he knew Micheal was coming. Jamie was finished he gives him a job, Micheal comes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭ballsdeep69


    Who was the gravedigger up in court tomorrow Willie V brothers grave.

    Anybody?


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Mago MVP


    John_D3 wrote: »
    Don’t know what to think off the targeting of boxers personally. Hutch side was well involved with MTK. Fitz a Hutch relation was signed, Gary had the wee brother out training, Mago was taking part in white collar events with Daniel the coach. It was only when the fall out came they turned on MTK and the boxers because they know its Daniels love though nobody can take seriously them judging boxers for signing with them.

    Daniel signed Jamie personally probably because he knew Micheal was coming. Jamie was finished he gives him a job, Micheal comes.

    No one takes them serious due to the boxers they’ve signed? They’ve got the best heavyweight in the world?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Got locked out of my Twitter account lads.
    Can someone give me.the accounts to follow for the gossip


  • Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭grayzer75


    Got locked out of my Twitter account lads.
    Can someone give me.the accounts to follow for the gossip

    @Cancer42198753 is one of them and @DKinahanSum is another.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭White lighting


    grayzer75 wrote: »
    @Cancer42198753 is one of them

    https://twitter.com/Kinahanpassport is another one:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Another question lads. I was talking to a friend about the balbriggan gangs at war with each other. I can't remember the names of the gangs. I think they where namk g themselves after postcodes or something??
    Also who is the rap artist from Dublin the got done for rape or something??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Another question lads. I was talking to a friend about the balbriggan gangs at war with each other. I can't remember the names of the gangs. I think they where namk g themselves after postcodes or something??
    Also who is the rap artist from Dublin the got done for rape or something??

    Ask Jedward


  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 85 ✭✭macpaccrack


    Another question lads. I was talking to a friend about the balbriggan gangs at war with each other. I can't remember the names of the gangs. I think they where namk g themselves after postcodes or something??
    Also who is the rap artist from Dublin the got done for rape or something??

    Listen pal.

    This is the gangland thread. We're talking about serious movers in the drug trade. We're talking about shootings, kilos being seized, people operating at the highest of levels. We're talking about people on the international scene watched by multiple government agencies.

    No one gives the **** about a gang of black teenagers from a bad area causing trouble or a ****ing rap artist who did a rape. Most of us come from these areas and these things have happened for generations no matter what the colour. More importantly though its not worth mentioning in a thread of more serious **** because its pretty much been a daily thing for decades that kids from bad estates have been fighting kids from other bad estates. The only reason I can see why some think its worthy of even being mentioned is because this time they're black.

    If you want to talk about minor **** then make a new thread and leave it out of the GANGLAND thread. Lets not infest this thread with all that racial crap that inevitably comes when *SHOCK HORROR* a black person commits a crime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭high_tower


    Listen pal.

    This is the gangland thread. We're talking about serious movers in the drug trade. We're talking about shootings, kilos being seized, people operating at the highest of levels. We're talking about people on the international scene watched by multiple government agencies.

    No one gives the **** about a gang of black teenagers from a bad area causing trouble or a ****ing rap artist who did a rape. Most of us come from these areas and these things have happened for generations no matter what the colour. More importantly though its not worth mentioning in a thread of more serious **** because its pretty much been a daily thing for decades that kids from bad estates have been fighting kids from other bad estates. The only reason I can see why some think its worthy of even being mentioned is because this time they're black.

    If you want to talk about minor **** then make a new thread and leave it out of the GANGLAND thread. Lets not infest this thread with all that racial crap that inevitably comes when *SHOCK HORROR* a black person commits a crime.

    Exactly. Let’s keep the conversation to serious issues like the Luke Kelly statue getting vandalised.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    high_tower wrote: »
    Exactly. Let’s keep the conversation to serious issues like the Luke Kelly statue getting vandalised.


    and boxing videos :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    Given news that Garda feel they have enough information Lawlor for the Mulreedy murder, let’s hope they have enough to do PC for life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Baymax2020


    Another question lads. I was talking to a friend about the balbriggan gangs at war with each other. I can't remember the names of the gangs. I think they where namk g themselves after postcodes or something??
    Also who is the rap artist from Dublin the got done for rape or something??

    #BLM until they start killing each other


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Eyes1


    theballz wrote: »
    Given news that Garda feel they have enough information Lawlor for the Mulreedy murder, let’s hope they have enough to do PC for life.

    Don’t think he’s even been charged has he?

    It’s crazy when you break it down.

    People get convicted of murders after 20-30 years after they find a fibre on a piece of clothing and they pop up on DNA databases yet a body can be chopped up, blood splashing and flowing all over the place no doubt but no charges?

    There must be a stack of blood on clothes all over the place of anyone remotely linked to KMW’s murder.

    Can’t get my head around that one tbh.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭greyday


    Eyes1 wrote: »
    Don’t think he’s even been charged has he?

    It’s crazy when you break it down.

    People get convicted of murders after 20-30 years after they find a fibre on a piece of clothing and they pop up on DNA databases yet a body can be chopped up, blood splashing and flowing all over the place no doubt but no charges?

    There must be a stack of blood on clothes all over the place of anyone remotely linked to KMW’s murder.

    Can’t get my head around that one tbh.

    They have him in prison until they are ready to charge him, no rush at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Mago MVP


    greyday wrote: »
    They have him in prison until they are ready to charge him, no rush at the moment.

    No rush? The other main suspect is brown bread. Why wait?


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭greyday


    Mago MVP wrote: »
    No rush? The other main suspect is brown bread. Why wait?

    Making sure it's air tight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    Waiting until this sentence is over so they dont run any of his previous in with the murder one.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,783 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    It took the Guards 7 years to nail Aaron Brady

    KMW only happened in January


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Beltby


    Eyes1 wrote: »
    Don’t think he’s even been charged has he?

    It’s crazy when you break it down.

    People get convicted of murders after 20-30 years after they find a fibre on a piece of clothing and they pop up on DNA databases yet a body can be chopped up, blood splashing and flowing all over the place no doubt but no charges?

    There must be a stack of blood on clothes all over the place of anyone remotely linked to KMW’s murder.

    Can’t get my head around that one tbh.

    Fire gets rid of DNA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Sureitlbegrand


    greyday wrote: »
    Making sure it's air tight.


    Or they have nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭bigsuge1


    The infamous 'Biggie' Little accepted my follow request on Instagram and having a look through his stuff and I didn't realise how close he and his crew were with his cousin Sean Little who is in 10/15 photos with them on holidays, nights out the lot. Always thought he more Coolock/Darndale aligned.

    I could be wrong but you'd think that with Nathan's connections and the Little families lust for revenge that more would have got done after his murder. To this day there's rumours about GW being involved, Mr Lie detector and Sanambar acting as lone wolfs etc. but nothing ever really confirmed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 cknfriedrice1


    Beltby wrote: »
    Fire gets rid of DNA.

    They had plenty of time to destroy any evidence. They weren’t under any time pressure. Burn clothes, wore gloves, they had spent time in that house previously so they have an explanation for any hair or other DNA evidence that remained. Plus a potential suspect in Robbie Lawlor is dead, no torso...

    IMHO.....the only way anyone is going down is if they talk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Eyes1


    They had plenty of time to destroy any evidence. They weren’t under any time pressure. Burn clothes, wore gloves, they had spent time in that house previously so they have an explanation for any hair or other DNA evidence that remained. Plus a potential suspect in Robbie Lawlor is dead, no torso...

    IMHO.....the only way anyone is going down is if they talk.

    Not the blood spatterings on KMW though that must be absolutely everywhere, even microscopic. Even bleaching doesn't do sh!t. Still shows up under UV light.

    I hear what others are saying though but why wait for his sentence to run down as one suggested? It's not like PC will get a small sentence if convicted. For a crime like that he'll never see the light of day again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Eyes1


    bigsuge1 wrote: »
    The infamous 'Biggie' Little accepted my follow request on Instagram and having a look through his stuff and I didn't realise how close he and his crew were with his cousin Sean Little who is in 10/15 photos with them on holidays, nights out the lot. Always thought he more Coolock/Darndale aligned.

    I could be wrong but you'd think that with Nathan's connections and the Little families lust for revenge that more would have got done after his murder. To this day there's rumours about GW being involved, Mr Lie detector and Sanambar acting as lone wolfs etc. but nothing ever really confirmed.

    I always thought it was due to a debt owed to Ears


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭bigsuge1


    Eyes1 wrote: »
    I always thought it was due to a debt owed to Ears

    Heard and read the same on here mate that GW and co had a say in SL. With Nathan being more or less LB’s third son you’d imagine the people who were involved with a hit on his family would be lucky to get away with it without ANY retaliation. You only have to see what happened to the Hutches to get where I’m coming from.

    Of course SL getting it is no where near the same level of priorities as when David got took out but it wouldn’t take much with the money and people they know to sort a few people out especially for their one of their closest friends and his family.

    Maybe more did happen and we don’t know about it but bar SL’s dad getting caught with a gun that’s all I’ve heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Eyes1 wrote: »
    Not the blood spatterings on KMW though that must be absolutely everywhere, even microscopic. Even bleaching doesn't do sh!t. Still shows up under UV light.

    I hear what others are saying though but why wait for his sentence to run down as one suggested? It's not like PC will get a small sentence if convicted. For a crime like that he'll never see the light of day again.

    The blood on KMW...was probably all KMW's. He wouldn't have had a chance to do any damage to the others. There'll be fcuk all chance of finding forensic evidence.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    The only bit of info i ever contributed here is legit from a cop in Drogheda not on case but they all talk about it in station obviously
    Cops sure rl not there when kmw killed
    He was seen in town earlier and they think whatever was planned like a hit was called off and rl ****ed off
    The others just done kmw coked off their tits prob and were worked up for the hit
    All those vids and pics are fake and no pics going round that they got anyway and someone would have handed them in
    I never got to ask about limbs in coolock or why


  • Advertisement
Advertisement