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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • #1472
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,174 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    ThewhiteJesus wrote: »
    so who do you want, enlighten us ?

    No idea, don't want any of them. End all restrictions and get this friggin thing over with


  • #1473
    ThewhiteJesus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    No idea, don't want any of them. End all restrictions and get this friggin thing over with

    100% agree with you there drunkmonkey


  • #1474
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I withdraw all the praise I heaped on Sean O'Rourke on his retirement if he refuses to respond to his successor's invitation to explain himself.
    I'm sure he will be very disappointed when he hears that


  • #1475
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,174 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    Can you explain why we have almost no deaths or ICU admissions, how exactly is this second wave going to manifest itself?

    I'm saying with only 1% infected we haven't had a first wave..


  • #1476
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    screamer wrote: »
    Ah Tickers, if only you were correct, I wish you were. This virus has far from taken out the susceptible, it took out what it could reach. There’s thousands more it can and will take out if we don’t keep our guard up. We don’t have community immunity either. You might be right this time next year but the cost of that in terms of lives and illness will be an exponential of what we’ve seen thus far. Meanwhile, tired as we are of restrictions and social distancing we must stay the course. Don’t let these gob****e politicians lack of discipline derail us, or we’re no better than them. anyways back on topic......

    But nobody is getting sick or dying, the majority if people have been exposed, the country has been open for weeks so accounting for the lag by you theory we should see sick people in hospital by now?

    Kids have been off school for months, wrestling on the green, no social distancing or face masks. 3 months ago when everyone was out for their 5km walk with no masks, where are all these sick people when the virus should have been spreading 3 months ago?


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  • #1477
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I'm saying with only 1% infected we haven't had a first wave..

    That just suggests that the virus isn't that bad. You said it yourself, less than 1%.


  • #1478
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,174 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    But nobody is getting sick or dying, the majority if people have been exposed, the country has been open for weeks so accounting for the lag by you theory we should see sick people in hospital by now?

    Kids have been off school for months, wrestling on the green, no social distancing or face masks. 3 months ago when everyone was out for their 5km walk with no masks, where are all these sick people when the virus should have been spreading 3 months ago?

    No 1% have been exposed going by government Data...that's 99 out of 100 of us left to get it. We haven't even started.


  • #1479
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    If this was the Irish soccer team we'd be looking for the manger to go. Martin couldn't manage a donkey derby by the looks of it, utter shambles of a government, should do the decent thing and resign.


    No we wouldnt.

    If Shane Long and few went left the hotel to go to a party in contravention of C19 guidelines- you would expect Stephen Kenny to resign. Right.

    You clearly have your own axe to grind.


  • #1480
    Buford T Justice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    But nobody is getting sick or dying, the majority if people have been exposed, the country has been open for weeks so accounting for the lag by you theory we should see sick people in hospital by now?

    Kids have been off school for months, wrestling on the green, no social distancing or face masks. 3 months ago when everyone was out for their 5km walk with no masks, where are all these sick people when the virus should have been spreading 3 months ago?

    How do you work out that the majority of people in this country have been exposed? Oh, and if you could answer the last question I asked you too, that'd be great.


  • #1481
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    No 1% have been exposed going by government Data...that's 99 out of 100 of us left to get it. We haven't even started.

    I haven't seen that Government data and it doesn't make sense to me. How can only 1% of the population be exposed when the virus has been in circulation since last year. People have been in work, schools, syatcation, pubs, restaurants.

    The reality is that people are not dying from this virus, it's that simple.


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  • #1482
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    partyguinness wrote: »
    No we wouldnt.

    If Shane Long and few went left the hotel to go to a party in contravention of C19 guidelines- you would expect Stephen Kenny to resign. Right.

    This was an Oireacthas event though.

    Massive difference pal.


  • #1483
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    You would swear we are living in Paris in the 1790's the way some of the keyboard proletariat are carrying on. The reign of Terror at least had vindication amongst its' hysteria.

    They will be looking to ban golf next.

    I can't help feeling the commies are secretly having a laugh at this.

    A golf dinner in Galway is hardly going to be the epicentre for Irish Covid meltdown. I hope the lamb racks were worth the bother.

    Can you imagine the table banter,

    " Dara, enjoy that Beaujolais cause the next one your having will be from the backbenches " ....que furious table tapping and out loud laughter.


  • #1484
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    partyguinness wrote: »
    Hold on. Michael Martin is not a baby sitter.

    If a few gob****es want to head off to a hotel in Galway for some shindig there is not a lot he can do if he is unaware of it.

    He is not baby sitter- he can only react after the fact.

    He is however the leader of the country, and he presided over a car crash presser that lead to more questions than answers. He was asked to clarify aspects of the new rules and waffled pure bolllocks.

    In a time when things need to be black and white he is talking grey.


  • #1485
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    Buford T Justice wrote: »
    How do you work out that the majority of people in this country have been exposed? Oh, and if you could answer the last question I asked you too, that'd be great.

    I didn't realise I was under an obligation to answer you questions - whatever that was.


  • #1486
    jelutong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭jelutong


    It was hardly a secret golf society outing so everyone in the Dail would have known about it. I can’t imagine the party leaders not knowing.


  • #1487
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,324 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    But nobody is getting sick or dying, the majority if people have been exposed, the country has been open for weeks so accounting for the lag by you theory we should see sick people in hospital by now?

    Kids have been off school for months, wrestling on the green, no social distancing or face masks. 3 months ago when everyone was out for their 5km walk with no masks, where are all these sick people when the virus should have been spreading 3 months ago?

    This is the truth of it. The country has been open since late June and despite this, AND no masks, we didn't see a surge in hospitalisations or deaths.

    Even now, we're seeing increases because of known incidents like the meat plants.

    This disease simply isn't as virulent as was thought in March, and that's OK. At the time the information we had was limited and we made the only decisions we could. However, we've completely failed to keep pace with the updated information and actual known outcome of cases in the country.

    Protect the known vulnerable demographic, ensure the necessary hospital beds are available, but beyond that - all these other restrictions should be removed immediately until such time as there is an actual justification for them.


  • #1488
    NickNickleby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    josip wrote: »
    Sorry Hotblack, whatever about the Clifden 81's breach of regs, it was your decision to bring your 85 year old MIL to a hotel.

    that's a bit harsh.

    We brought our 90 year old MIL to a hotel (in Offaly:eek:), but first enquired about how they were implementing the Covid restrictions. Everything was perfect, down to one way systems in the corridors, our meals were served in the humungous dining room, where sittings and number of tables ensured safety. They even used separate socialising rooms for different family groups.

    We considered Skype, with her at home on her own celebrating her 90th, and all of us in the Hotel, but the broadband was crap.


  • #1489
    StackSteevens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    ThewhiteJesus wrote: »
    Personal abuse, isn't this against the charter ?
    So you can't have a reasonable debate, so instead resort to name calling.
    Perhaps you should go back to Joe ?


    To the best of my knowledge, the use of accurate descriptive adjectives is still permitted here. And to my certain knowledge "Joe's" programme ended at 15.00.


  • #1490
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,651 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    But nobody is getting sick or dying, the majority if people have been exposed, the country has been open for weeks so accounting for the lag by you theory we should see sick people in hospital by now?

    Kids have been off school for months, wrestling on the green, no social distancing or face masks. 3 months ago when everyone was out for their 5km walk with no masks, where are all these sick people when the virus should have been spreading 3 months ago?

    You've had a viral overload of something anyway.

    Winter, dear boy /girl /he/her/she.

    Obre Les ojos.


  • #1491
    Buford T Justice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    I didn't realise I was under an obligation to answer you questions - whatever that was.

    Fair enough.

    Please, do continue with you wild sweeping claims and remain unchallenged on them.


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  • #1492
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    You would swear we are living in Paris in the 1790's the way some of the keyboard proletariat are carrying on. The reign of Terror at least had vindication amongst its' hysteria.

    They will be looking to ban golf next.

    I can't help feeling the commies are secretly having a laugh at this.

    A golf dinner in Galway is hardly going to be the epicentre for Irish Covid meltdown. I hope the lamb racks were worth the bother.

    Can you imagine the table banter,

    " Dara, enjoy that Beaujolais cause the next one your having will be from the backbenches " ....que furious table tapping and out loud laughter.

    Not sure if you are on a wind up , but here goes. I think alot of the restrictions are bs but I follow as close as I can because that is what is expected of me. Now my problem is a bunch of the people involved in imposing restrictions on my life and that of my family and friends feel the same restrictions are not applicable to them. They found out today they were wrong, so f**k them.


  • #1493
    Cork Lass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    He is however the leader of the country, and he presided over a car crash presser that lead to more questions than answers. He was asked to clarify aspects of the new rules and waffled pure bolllocks.

    In a time when things need to be black and white he is talking grey.

    You must also remember that he was not the people’s choice. He was elected to the Dail on the 6th count and now he’s basking in the glory of the title he has coveted for years to the detriment of the people. Another self-serving bureaucratic gob****e.


  • #1494
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    smelly sock wrote: »
    This was an Oireacthas event though.

    Massive difference pal.


    I didnt make the analogy pal.


  • #1495
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I'm saying with only 1% infected we haven't had a first wave..

    We just about stopped it because of the restrictions earlier this year. Should be obvious like


  • #1496
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    You've had a viral overload of something anyway.

    Winter, dear boy /girl /he/her/she.

    Obre Les ojos.

    It's tempting but the "winter" argument doesn't stack up because we should be using the summer months to build up more herd immunity if and a very unlikely if there is a so called second wave but it is hard to see how a second wave could present itself because, as I keep saying, nobody is getting sick and nobody is dying.


  • #1497
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    josip wrote: »
    Sorry Hotblack, whatever about the Clifden 81's breach of regs, it was your decision to bring your 85 year old MIL to a hotel.

    Fair point. No matter how diligent and well trained the staff a hotel environment is always going to be a risky place regarding virus spread. Even I wouldn't take the lift in a hotel, and I'm a bit of a covid sceptic.


  • #1498
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    You would swear we are living in Paris in the 1790's the way some of the keyboard proletariat are carrying on. The reign of Terror at least had vindication amongst its' hysteria.

    They will be looking to ban golf next.

    I can't help feeling the commies are secretly having a laugh at this.

    A golf dinner in Galway is hardly going to be the epicentre for Irish Covid meltdown. I hope the lamb racks were worth the bother.

    Can you imagine the table banter,

    " Dara, enjoy that Beaujolais cause the next one your having will be from the backbenches " ....que furious table tapping and out loud laughter.

    Like many outrage-worthy things, its the principle.

    The day after new restrictions were brought in on gatherings, ministers and senators in the government went to a golfing committee anniversary dinner with 80 people in attendance! The arrogance is astounding

    You must be being deliberately obtuse if you can't see how this is justified


  • #1499
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Buford T Justice wrote: »
    Fair enough.

    Please, do continue with you wild sweeping claims and remain unchallenged on them.

    What wild sweeping claims are you referring to? It's a statement of fact that almost nobody is getting sick or dying from this virus.


  • #1500
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Cork Lass wrote: »
    You must also remember that he was not the people’s choice. He was elected to the Dail on the 6th count and now he’s basking in the glory of the title he has coveted for years to the detriment of the people. Another self-serving bureaucratic gob****e.

    I’m well aware. Had the Green Party ran a decent candidate in CSS he would be on €350 a week now.


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  • #1501
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,651 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    It's tempting but the "winter" argument doesn't stack up because we should be using the summer months to build up more herd immunity if and a very unlikely if there is a so called second wave but it is hard to see how a second wave could present itself because, as I keep saying, nobody is getting sick and nobody is dying.

    Thi is illogical and we're getting off thread.


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