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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • #1442
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,651 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Because of the hotel management permitting this event to take place thus exposing their guests to a needless risk. They should have cancelled it.

    100%. Are they that lax with fire guidelines?


  • #1443
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    The upshot of the last few months is we are seeing the true (and useless) abilities of Micheál Martin as a leader. People tend to sum up his Tenure as Minister for Health as a success due to the implementation of the smoking ban, when the reality is that he was a terrible Minister for Health, and is a terrible Taoiseach. His lack of leadership of the party and cabinet, his gibberish and lack of clarity in press conferences is all you need to know.


  • #1444
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    The upshot of the last few months is we are seeing the true (and useless) abilities of Micheál Martin as a leader. People tend to sum up his Tenure as Minister for Health as a success due to the implementation of the smoking ban, when the reality is that he was a terrible Minister for Health, and is a terrible Taoiseach. His lack of leadership of the party and cabinet, his gibberish and lack of clarity in press conferences is all you need to know.
    Yep, there was a reason he was known as the Minister for commissioning reports, anything to offload his reponsibilities.


    Varadkar cut from the same cloth in the way he was absolutely useless as a minister and spent most of his time criticising other departments and raising his media profile.


  • #1445
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    The upshot of the last few months is we are seeing the true (and useless) abilities of Micheál Martin as a leader. People tend to sum up his Tenure as Minister for Health as a success due to the implementation of the smoking ban, when the reality is that he was a terrible Minister for Health, and is a terrible Taoiseach. His lack of leadership of the party and cabinet, his gibberish and lack of clarity in press conferences is all you need to know.


    Go back 12 months and I am sure you posted the exact same about Leo....


    So who do you want as Taoiseach?


  • #1446
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    he has been retired since may


    o'Rourke is only retired as an RTE staffer, he is on record as saying he will be back on air as a contractor


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  • #1447
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    The upshot of the last few months is we are seeing the true (and useless) abilities of Micheál Martin as a leader. People tend to sum up his Tenure as Minister for Health as a success due to the implementation of the smoking ban, when the reality is that he was a terrible Minister for Health, and is a terrible Taoiseach. His lack of leadership of the party and cabinet, his gibberish and lack of clarity in press conferences is all you need to know.

    I could tell you stories only for signing a sheet of paper that says I can't


  • #1448
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Go back 12 months and I am sure you posted the exact same about Leo....


    So who do you want as Taoiseach?

    You won't get an answer.

    They're all bluster.... terrible minister, brutal Taoiseach, blah blah.

    Only happy when whinging. Sad existence.


  • #1449
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,902 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    100%. Are they that lax with fire guidelines?

    We've been coming here for several years. They seem very on the ball in general and in relation to covid, which makes this a real shock.

    If we'd known there was any possibility of an event like this taking place at the hotel we wouldn't have come, simple as that. My mother in law is with us and she's 85.

    I feel sorry for the front line staff who have been going out of their way looking after guests, cleaning etc. Then management hosts an event like that and puts them and us at needless risk. I'm fuming.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #1450
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    We've been coming here for several years. They seem very on the ball in general and in relation to covid, which makes this a real shock.

    If we'd known there was any possibility of an event like this taking place at the hotel we wouldn't have come, simple as that. My mother in law is with us and she's 85.

    I feel sorry for the front line staff who have been going out of their way looking after guests, cleaning etc. Then management hosts an event like that and puts them and us at needless risk. I'm fuming.

    You're just looking for your money back


  • #1451
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Hold on. Michael Martin is not a baby sitter.

    If a few gob****es want to head off to a hotel in Galway for some shindig there is not a lot he can do if he is unaware of it.

    He is not baby sitter- he can only react after the fact.


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  • #1452
    Marty1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Marty1983


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Go back 12 months and I am sure you posted the exact same about Leo....


    So who do you want as Taoiseach?


    I dont think we have any stand out candidates within FF or FG at the moment. Communication is key in the top job, Leo is more interested in quoting mean girls and MM is just too awkward.


    Stephen Donnelly is probably the best communicator in FF but he is new to the party, M McGrath would prob be the next leader if they oused MM


    I can see the gov falling before this happens though.


  • #1453
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Allinall wrote: »
    You won't get an answer.

    They're all bluster.... terrible minister, brutal Taoiseach, blah blah.

    Only happy when whinging. Sad existence.


    That's my point....all huff n puff with nothing behind it.



    Replace MM with someone else, two week later, exact same posts from the exact same people.


  • #1454
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    So are we able to host weddings with 50 people in multiple rooms at venues then?


  • #1455
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,666 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Sorry Hotblack, whatever about the Clifden 81's breach of regs, it was your decision to bring your 85 year old MIL to a hotel.


  • #1456
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭screamer


    partyguinness wrote: »
    Hold on. Michael Martin is not a baby sitter.

    If a few gob****es want to head off to a hotel in Galway for some shindig there is not a lot he can do if he is unaware of it.

    He is not baby sitter- he can only react after the fact.

    Yet he hasn’t reacted publicly anyways. The tail wags the dog in FF


  • #1457
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Marty1983 wrote: »
    I dont think we have any stand out candidates within FF or FG at the moment. Communication is key in the top job, Leo is more interested in quoting mean girls and MM is just too awkward.


    Stephen Donnelly is probably the best communicator in FF but he is new to the party, M McGrath would prob be the next leader if they oused MM


    I can see the gov falling before this happens though.


    Gov fails who replaces? can't have a country with no governement.....


    Well you can if you are SF but look at the disaster NI was for 3 years.....


  • #1458
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭celt262


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    and plenty of hand shaking

    and hand shandy's


  • #1459
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    billybonkers wrote: »
    So are we able to host weddings with 50 people in multiple rooms at venues then?

    No.

    Not you/us.


  • #1460
    Gerry Hatrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Allinall wrote: »
    You can be alive and miss something.

    Can you not do simple logic?

    Looks like my logic is better than your maths in fairness :pac:


  • #1461
    eggy81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Allinall wrote: »
    Why would anyone there need to have made a contribution to public life?

    The fake outrage here is hilarious.

    Why is it fake


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  • #1462
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    partyguinness wrote: »
    Hold on. Michael Martin is not a baby sitter.

    If a few gob****es want to head off to a hotel in Galway for some shindig there is not a lot he can do if he is unaware of it.

    He is not baby sitter- he can only react after the fact.


    Bring back Collins and Dooley


  • #1463
    ThewhiteJesus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    StackSteevens wrote: »
    Clearly.

    How else would I know that having a contrarian clown like you phoning in and pitching your half-baked views onto the bonfire would be pure gold to the producers!

    Personal abuse, isn't this against the charter ?
    So you can't have a reasonable debate, so instead resort to name calling.
    Perhaps you should go back to Joe ?


  • #1464
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭screamer


    They’ll do double Dara today. Calleary resigns and Cill will continue in lockdown.


  • #1465
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    That's my point....all huff n puff with nothing behind it.



    Replace MM with someone else, two week later, exact same posts from the exact same people.

    And you'll blindly defend incompetence and screwups sun-up to sun-down as long as the colour of the shirt is right.

    You're nothing if not consistent. And that's all that can be said about you.


  • #1466
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    smelly sock wrote: »
    BS.

    The reasons why deaths are low is because the weak and elderly still isolating and cocooning.

    The figures aren't great but could be worse to be honest. The figures are what we take our metric from and how we go about reacting to the situation. Don't wait until we start getting into 40-60 people a day dying. Don't let it get that far.

    That's just not true. The country has been open for weeks, people have been on staycation, going to the shops, standing in lines and still nobody is dying.

    The data is in and the fact is that people are not getting sick from this virus anymore. It has moved through the community, taken the susceptible and now that the majority of the population has been exposed has created community immunity.


  • #1467
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,174 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    partyguinness wrote: »
    Hold on. Michael Martin is not a baby sitter.

    If a few gob****es want to head off to a hotel in Galway for some shindig there is not a lot he can do if he is unaware of it.

    He is not baby sitter- he can only react after the fact.

    If this was the Irish soccer team we'd be looking for the manger to go. Martin couldn't manage a donkey derby by the looks of it, utter shambles of a government, should do the decent thing and resign.


  • #1468
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,174 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    That's just not true. The country has been open for weeks, people have been on staycation, going to the shops, standing in lines and still nobody is dying.

    The data is in and the fact is that people are not getting sick from this virus anymore. It has moved through the community, taken the susceptible and now that the majority of the population has been exposed has created community immunity.

    Data saying only 1% of us have had it. Were wide open to it, we haven't had any wave that's the big problem now.


  • #1469
    ThewhiteJesus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    If this was the Irish soccer team we'd be looking for the manger to go. Martin couldn't manage a donkey derby by the looks of it, utter shambles of a government, should do the decent thing and resign.

    so who do you want, enlighten us ?


  • #1470
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Data saying only 1% of us have had it. Were wide open to it, we haven't had any wave that's the big problem now.

    Can you explain why we have almost no deaths or ICU admissions, how exactly is this second wave going to manifest itself?


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  • #1471
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭screamer


    Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »
    That's just not true. The country has been open for weeks, people have been on staycation, going to the shops, standing in lines and still nobody is dying.

    The data is in and the fact is that people are not getting sick from this virus anymore. It has moved through the community, taken the susceptible and now that the majority of the population has been exposed has created community immunity.

    Ah Sophia Cuddly Amputee, if only you were correct, I wish you were. This virus has far from taken out the susceptible, it took out what it could reach. There’s thousands more it can and will take out if we don’t keep our guard up. We don’t have community immunity either. You might be right this time next year but the cost of that in terms of lives and illness will be an exponential of what we’ve seen thus far. Meanwhile, tired as we are of restrictions and social distancing we must stay the course. Don’t let these gob****e politicians lack of discipline derail us, or we’re no better than them. anyways back on topic......


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