FF/FG/Green Next Government

CrankyHaus · 21-08-2020 12:27PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Poor Bobby Storey, if only he could have got the republican funeral he deserved.

Yeah because only "De Shinnerbots" have a problem with the oireachtas golf outing taking a massive steamy dump on the sacrifices everyone else has been making for months to meet restrictions and best practice.

Actually I hope that is the line FFG take on this; what better way to alienate your own base :pac:

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 12:42PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How's that working out for him?

The fears of all of us who expressed them are coming true with unprecedented haste.

I said when he finally became Taoiseach that I would give him the benefit of the doubt as he bedded in and I did. But he has been fighting the fires started by weak weak leadership skills from the off.
To be so desperate and weak to allow FG to ride roughshod over him in cabinet posts, to allow FG to undermine him from day one was bad enough but his own party leadership too has been found wanting.

Even if he gets fired in the morning he will be paid a fortune of a pension for years

So I woudl say fairly rosey, would you not?

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 12:45PM

Bowie wrote: »

It was worriying enough thinking of the schools opening.
The Berlin bar incident was concerning. Small potatoes but zero consequences was a hint.
FF/FG/Green seem to be picking and choosing what advice they follow from NPHET.
We have every level of the state representative at that golf function. Thats the worrying part. Behind the hand wringing and 'we're all in this together' its apparent we Certainly are not.
We must look a laughing stock of a nation.
Do we want these cross party self entitled yahoos responsible for peoples, school kids safety? They should return to following strict advice from professionals. It seems FF/FG crony Ireland can't help itself even during a pandemic.

Nobody give a f**k about Ireland

Do you think anyone in Europe in the middle of this disaster cares about a few lads going for beers at a Golf event?

We are a tiny country at the edge of Europe! they would be more shocked if we ended up with a group of terrorists running the country. Then we would get some sort of recoginition. Then we would be the laughing stock of Europe. It would be similar to Germany voting back in the Nazi party.
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Just to update, Sky News....the only country you might expect would have a passing interest....not a sign, Taylor swift giving a donation to a student is more important.....

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 12:48PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Even if he gets fired in the morning he will be paid a fortune of a pension for years

So I woudl say fairly rosey, would you not?

Delighted for him. Well done Michael.

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 12:48PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Anybody that criticises FFG government = Shinner. Don't you know?

I'm really interested in teasing out your previous assertion a bit more.

So you'll know more about politics than I ever will?
The only kind of person who could make such an assertion about someone that they dont know is someone who probably has previous experience of being heavily involved with a party (and even then thats no guarantee).

So you're anti-FF, anti-FG and "have never voted for SF"?

So the only thing i can assume here (if you're not bullsh*tting as you go along) is that you must have some recent involvement with the Labour party.

If you think that being involved with the team that has more or less killed the Labour party in this country makes you some kind of political sage then I dont know what to say to you.

If it's any different then enlighten me - it's always good to back up your claims

Brendan Bendar · 21-08-2020 12:49PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

She was clearly sent out to try and separate FG from the mess of this government. Time and again she made criticisms of FF. FG are in government with FF yet she was using a radion show to talk to the Minister For Education, as Sarah McInerney said, as if she was one of the opposition.

Francie, she is no idiot.

What did you want her to do?

Make a fool of herself trying to defend the indefensible?

Unfortunately for her she always was a straight talker, called out those who needed calling out , prised out the non triers from under their slates which unfortunately cost her her seat.

She handled the interview very well and pulled no punches.

And don’t bother with the failed company stuff Francie .... I am well aware of it.

BQQ · 21-08-2020 12:54PM

MadYaker wrote: »

This government are now a farce. The people in FF have changed but it’s clear the culture persists. Leo is annoying but at least his cabinet understood the importance of following the most basic guidelines when you’re a member of the cabinet responsible for them. I want an election.

They haven’t gone away you know

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 12:55PM

IT is great to see in the biggest crisis in year in Ireland, with everything going on we have no sign whatsoever of "the best opposition ever"

Look like the Sinners all off hiding somehwere, maybe on holidays abroad but the SF trolls wont mention that???

If in Ireland you would expect them all to be standing outside RTE begging for someone to interview them

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 12:55PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Francie, she is no idiot.

What did you want her to do?

Make a fool of herself trying to defend the indefensible?

Unfortunately for her she always was a straight talker, called out those who needed calling out , prised out the non triers from under their slates which unfortunately cost her her seat.

She handled the interview very well and pulled no punches.

And don’t bother with the failed company stuff Francie .... I am well aware of it.

SHe got found out when the interviewer told her she was 'sounding like a member of the opposition', criticising a member of her own party's government through a radio station.

In other words the FG policy, indulged by Varadkar and others, of divorcing themselves from government has been rumbled and won't wash.

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 12:58PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

IT is great to see in the biggest crisis in year in Ireland, with everything going on we have no sign whatsoever of "the best opposition ever"

Look like the Sinners all off hiding somehwere, maybe on holidays abroad but the SF trolls wont mention that???

If in Ireland you would expect them all to be standing outside RTE begging for someone to interview them

I think David Culinane's secretary posted on the usual press release.

"All the things that people don't like about the new restrictions- we'd not have done and all the things that people are fine with - we'd have done anyway & have been pushing for over the last few weeks"

Loafing Oaf · 21-08-2020 01:01PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

IT is great to see in the biggest crisis in year in Ireland, with everything going on we have no sign whatsoever of "the best opposition ever"

Look like the Sinners all off hiding somehwere, maybe on holidays abroad but the SF trolls wont mention that???

If in Ireland you would expect them all to be standing outside RTE begging for someone to interview them

And of course if they were on every news/current affairs show trying to make hay with this, you certainly wouldn't be accusing them of trying to political capital out of a national crisis, no sirree.

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 01:02PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

IT is great to see in the biggest crisis in year in Ireland, with everything going on we have no sign whatsoever of "the best opposition ever"

Look like the Sinners all off hiding somehwere, maybe on holidays abroad but the SF trolls wont mention that???

If in Ireland you would expect them all to be standing outside RTE begging for someone to interview them

I don't know enough about people's personal lives to claim 'they are on holidays' but I do know that on holidays or not that Mary Lou has contacted the Taoiseach this morning and asked that the Dáil be recalled, he has refused.

I also know that David Cullinane was on the National Broadcaster's prime political show this am.

ebbsy · 21-08-2020 01:04PM

Get Trump in.

NOW

Brendan Bendar · 21-08-2020 01:05PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SHe got found out when the interviewer told her she was 'sounding like a member of the opposition', criticising a member of her own party's government through a radio station.

In other words the FG policy, indulged by Varadkar and others, of divorcing themselves from government has been rumbled and won't wash.

Total bullsdust Francie, total bullsdust.

She didn’t fall into the trap of trying defend the indefensible.

If a member of a ‘club’ transgresses and breaks the law is it incumbent on a member of the same club to back them up.

Doing wrong is doing wrong Francie.

Regina wasn’t “found out” Fg haven’t been “rumbled.

You need to think before your hatred of FG clouds your judgement Francie.

She stood up and said it straight Francie, something which is to be lauded.

McInerney doesn’t get any kudos for that remark either.

Hawthorn Tree · 21-08-2020 01:05PM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I'm really interested in teasing out your previous assertion a bit more.

So you'll know more about politics than I ever will?
The only kind of person who could make such an assertion about someone that they dont know is someone who probably has previous experience of being heavily involved with a party (and even then thats no guarantee).

So you're anti-FF, anti-FG and "have never voted for SF"?

So the only thing i can assume here (if you're not bullsh*tting as you go along) is that you must have some recent involvement with the Labour party.

If you think that being involved with the team that has more or less killed the Labour party in this country makes you some kind of political sage then I dont know what to say to you.

If it's any different then enlighten me - it's always good to back up your claims

Go away. You were right the first time. I am a Shinner. Born and Bred.

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 01:06PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Go away. You were right the first time. I am a Shinner. Born and Bred.

So the pointless lying came easy to you?
Makes sense now, cheers for clearing that up.

RandomViewer · 21-08-2020 01:07PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

IT is great to see in the biggest crisis in year in Ireland, with everything going on we have no sign whatsoever of "the best opposition ever"

Look like the Sinners all off hiding somehwere, maybe on holidays abroad but the SF trolls wont mention that???

If in Ireland you would expect them all to be standing outside RTE begging for someone to interview them

All honesty it's time for popcorn an d a few bottles and watch the FFers and FGers eat each other, maybe offer to hold their coats but no need for any other action

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 01:12PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't know enough about people's personal lives to claim 'they are on holidays' but I do know that on holidays or not that Mary Lou has contacted the Taoiseach this morning and asked that the Dáil be recalled, he has refused.

I also know that David Cullinane was on the National Broadcaster's prime political show this am.

I know the party you supports is corrupt to the core. Illegal activity is not called out and hid. Covered up

Normal parties and normal people will not stick with that. The guys done wrong, it was called out.

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 01:13PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

All honesty it's time for popcorn an d a few bottles and watch the FFers and FGers eat each other, maybe offer to hold their coats but no need for any other action

Really?

Do you not have Netflix or Amazon or something??

RandomViewer · 21-08-2020 01:13PM

Seemsall those advisors were on holidays

James Brown · 21-08-2020 01:14PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Poor Bobby Storey, if only he could have got the republican funeral he deserved.

I don’t think the majority of the electorate who are beholden to no party would appreciate such a response.
I suppose as with the Irish Water protests, if they didn't have someone to point at they'd create another Paul Murphy.
The public are tired of the bull****.

BonnieSituation · 21-08-2020 01:15PM

Floppybits wrote: »

There wont be an election any time soon, like Brexit was used an excuse not to have an election, COVID will be used an excuse not to have an election.

Also if there is an election who do you vote for? Lets face it none of the big parties are coming through this crisis as a party to trust and the smaller parties like the Soc Dem's or god forbid Labour just are not big enough to have an impact. If there is an election it will be just either FG or SF and then it will be seen who will go into government with either one. I think FF are finished and if they do survive they will be like Labour are now.

The very nature of politics means that parties won't grow if they aren't voted for. :P

SocDems have been playing a nice slow growth progressive game and its working very very well for them. No real need to change course while you have this shambles in charge.

Muahahaha · 21-08-2020 01:15PM

costacorta wrote: »

That minister of Agriculture post is really hurting FF , Who is next in line to take it?

I want to see Eamon Ryan get it, he could get the farmers to cover the whole country in salads and wolves. We could be the first country in the world to have vegan wolves.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

IT is great to see in the biggest crisis in year in Ireland, with everything going on we have no sign whatsoever of "the best opposition ever"

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making mistakes"
Napoleon Bonaparte

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 01:17PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Total bullsdust Francie, total bullsdust.

She didn’t fall into the trap of trying defend the indefensible.

If a member of a ‘club’ transgresses and breaks the law is it incumbent on a member of the same club to back them up.

Doing wrong is doing wrong Francie.

Regina wasn’t “found out” Fg haven’t been “rumbled.

You need to think before your hatred of FG clouds your judgement Francie.

She stood up and said it straight Francie, something which is to be lauded.

McInerney doesn’t get any kudos for that remark either.

Ha ha Brendi...you are defending the indefensible here. A FG minister trying to wash her hands of the government her party is in, is absurd. And McInerney knocked the ball out of the park, pulling her on it.

RandomViewer · 21-08-2020 01:18PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Really?

Do you not have Netflix or Amazon or something??

I've lost count of them at this stage Amazon,Disney +,N etflix, think I have a few Chinese pirate sites as well but always open to some homegrown comedy,

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 01:20PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I know the party you supports is corrupt to the core. Illegal activity is not called out and hid. Covered up

Normal parties and normal people will not stick with that. The guys done wrong, it was called out.

Which has what to do with the point you made - that SF had disappeared.

RandomViewer · 21-08-2020 01:20PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

The very nature of politics means that parties won't grow if they aren't voted for. :P

SocDems have been playing a nice slow growth progressive game and its working very very well for them. No real need to change course while you have this shambles in charge.

SocDems wont get any seats outside of urban areas, old Labour voters, nothing for rural Ireland

RandomViewer · 21-08-2020 01:24PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ha ha Brendi...you are defending the indefensible here. A FG minister trying to wash her hands of the government her party is in, is absurd. And McInerney knocked the ball out of the park, pulling her on it.

Regina heard Oul' Watery Phil was involved at went for it, if the thick one resigns Regina is sitting pretty in Europe,

JP Liz V1 · 21-08-2020 01:33PM

So it is rotating minister for agriculture

blanch152 · 21-08-2020 01:38PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

And of course if they were on every news/current affairs show trying to make hay with this, you certainly wouldn't be accusing them of trying to political capital out of a national crisis, no sirree.

They are hiding in case someone asks why are Mary-Lou and Pearse still their representatives after breaking the lockdown rules to go to the show pageant funeral of the good republican up North.

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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