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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #8372
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    GP from Newbridge.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/opinion/covid-19-heart-disease.html

    https://twitter.com/AdrianAmcgold/status/1295829080760295424


  • #8373
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    stargazer 68 wrote: »
    Problem is children these days don't seem to be shielded from anything. They hear far too much IMO.

    When I was a kid my parents would never discuss their finances, someone else marriage, problems etc in front of us. That all seems to be out the window now.

    Anyone I know still shield the children from problems .All my family and friends would still very aware not to burden a child


  • #8374
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Start taking the virus seriously to those who believe in theories and its low death rate etc.


    Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.


    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29633697/heart-condition-linked-covid-19-fuels-power-5-concern-season-viability


  • #8375
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    This is a bastard of a disease what with its effects on the cardiac, vascular, uninary and respiratory systems.

    It does not happen to all but it happens to enough people for the doctors to be bringing it to our attention. They have been calling this out since April.


  • #8376
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    When I heard that my heart sank. Children should not be anxious over this disease. As parents we really need to shield them.

    My four year old was watching Paw Partol the other day and the pups had a cold. I asked it was it covid? and he said, "Daddy, Covid is a myth, nobody has it". Well matched to the restrictions thread I'd say


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  • #8377
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Start taking the virus seriously to those who believe in theories and its low death rate etc.


    Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.


    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29633697/heart-condition-linked-covid-19-fuels-power-5-concern-season-viability

    I'm 100% serious when I say the aul Jesus juice is likely also in play there ,


  • #8378
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭plodder


    Myocarditis, encephalitis and multi-organ failure are complications of flu also, thankfully rare, and hopefully they are with Covid 19 too.


  • #8379
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    The split rooms and more than 50 people question is important - I think it's getting a bit lost in the storm about resignations.

    If we allow big events to go ahead and simply split them in the same location, it makes a mockery of the rules. Sure it meets the letter of the law, but inevitably there is going to be mixing of people.

    "I know the limit is 15 people outdoors, but we had 15 at one barbecue, and 15 at the barbecue on the other side of the garden"
    "6 were in the kitchen handing out beers, 6 in the living room, 6 in the porch, 6 in the sitting room"
    "We had 50 in one room with my mother, and another 50 in the other room with my father, and we all met up for champagne beforehand"

    We're in a situation where a lot of people are upset about perceived unfairness in the rules. This is a time for clarity and behaving within both the letter and the spirit of the regulations - and not searching for loopholes. There will inevitably be more events in the media with large numbers attending, and it's going to be very damaging when the reports emerge.


  • #8380
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    2020 summed up in one Californian photo

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  • #8381
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    This whole 'lock down/no lock down/restrictions/no restrictions' is going to start wearing pretty thin over the next few months and C19 fatigue will just settle in.

    It is with us and we will have to live with it just like any other disease/virus through the centuries until a vaccine is found etc. This shielding/living in fear of the Bogey Man will dissipate.


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  • #8382
    [Deleted User]
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    plodder wrote: »
    Myocarditis, encephalitis and multi-organ failure are complications of flu also, thankfully rare, and hopefully they are with Covid 19 too.

    Myocarditis is also more prevalent in younger male athletes than the broader population. Thought to be related to training through viral symptoms


  • #8383
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    They are at about 20 cases per 100,000 and we are currently at 25 cases. They do seem to be a bit more calm about the whole thing now and less reactive compared to us.


    Doing 400,000 tests per week that's why they picked up 1600 cases.

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  • #8384
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Plenty more to come probably

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1296733933938388995?s=19

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1296740482530398208?s=19


  • #8385
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1296705591411445760?s=19

    Nice get out of jail card, similar to.
    Garda have new powers. Oh wait , AG needs to advise.


  • #8386
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Plenty more to come probably

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1296733933938388995?s=19

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1296740482530398208?s=19

    I respect the honour of the man having the balls to resign. We should tolerate failure , not incompetence (Stephen Donnelly and his trampolines)


  • #8387
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭plodder


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I'm 100% serious when I say the aul Jesus juice is likely also in play there ,
    On another matter. Will we be having the update from yourself some time after 12:30 today ?


  • #8388
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    partyguinness wrote: »
    This whole 'lock down/no lock down/restrictions/no restrictions' is going to start wearing pretty thin over the next few months and C19 fatigue will just settle in.

    It is with us and we will have to live with it just like any other disease/virus through the centuries until a vaccine is found etc. This shielding/living in fear of the Bogey Man will dissipate.

    I think C19 fatigue is already here

    People are trying to just get on with it but even this week there are more restrictions even in areas with very low cases

    The governments message is not getting across esp when it contains huge contradictions

    I'd be surprised if compliance rates were as high should they try a second national lockdown


  • #8389
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    I think C19 fatigue is already here

    People are trying to just get on with it but even this week there are more restrictions even in areas with very low cases

    The governments message is not getting across esp when it contains huge contradictions

    I'd be surprised if compliance rates were as high should they try a second national lockdown

    I agree. I’m fairly close on pulling the trigger on a grand coalition golf party. I mean we can’t just follow public health advice forever. Golf is the economy.

    I’m amazed at the cooperation across party lines when it comes to golf. If only that level of cooperation could be seen in relation to covid.


  • #8390
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    partyguinness wrote: »
    This whole 'lock down/no lock down/restrictions/no restrictions' is going to start wearing pretty thin over the next few months and C19 fatigue will just settle in.

    It is with us and we will have to live with it just like any other disease/virus through the centuries until a vaccine is found etc. This shielding/living in fear of the Bogey Man will dissipate.

    It's concerning hearing reports of heart inflammation in healthy athletes (who can get an x-ray at the click of a finger) and one of our own GPs, who was asymptomatic and discovered heart inflammation months later also. How many others are walking about with this ailment, clueless they even had Covid.

    I fear the unknown and so should you, we don't know enough about this virus and I'd definitely rather not get it, if I can help it.


  • #8391
    Sunrise.Sunset
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ✭Sunrise.Sunset


    There's a certain section of society who believes they are too great that the public health guidelines doesn't apply to them. I know a GP who's acting the absolute bollix. If covid gets into his household, a sizable portion of the town will be vulnerable to infection because he refuses to minimise close contacts. There was another end of school party for his teenager last night with at least 10 different households. This definitely isn't rumour. I have close connections.

    Now, politicians are partying it up in Clifden.


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  • #8392
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    It's concerning hearing reports of heart inflammation in healthy athletes (who can get an x-ray at the click of a finger) and one of our own GPs, who was asymptomatic and discovered heart inflammation months later also. How many others are walking about with this ailment, clueless they even had Covid.

    I fear the unknown and so should you, we don't know enough about this virus and I'd definitely rather not get it, if I can help it.

    I wouldn't read too much into the heart inflammation among athletes...that is not uncommon as another poster has mentioned. You should see what a marathon does to the body (recovers fine) and yet thousands of people run it every year.

    Personally I do not live my life fearing the unknowns. That is no way to live. In fact that is not living at all IMO. We do not know a lot about a lot of things- I am now in England I personally know several people who have had it including my wife's aunt. 'Very mild sickness' to 'nothing' to a 'bad flu like' is the feedback.

    The vast vast majority of people recover fine from it and come out the other side unscathe- we seem to lose sight of that and focus on the...what is it...2-3%.

    If you going for an operation with a 2-3% morality rate you would take the operation.

    Where do you draw the line? Might as well lock myself into a bunker and hide under a blanket. No thanks I'll act sensibly with my mask etc but I am not living in fear.


  • #8393
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    partyguinness wrote: »
    I wouldn't read too much into the heart inflammation among athletes...that is not uncommon as another poster has mentioned. You should see what a marathon does to the body (recovers fine) and yet thousands of people run it every year.

    Personally I do not live my life fearing the unknowns. That is no way to live. In fact that is not living at all IMO. We do not know a lot about a lot of things- I am now in England I personally know several people who have had it including my wife's aunt. 'Very mild sickness' to 'nothing' to a 'bad flu like' is the feedback.

    The vast vast majority of people recover fine from it and come out the other side unscathe- we seem to lose sight of that and focus on the...what is it...2-3%.

    If you going for an operation with a 2-3% morality rate you would take the operation.

    Where do you draw the line? Might as well lock myself into a bunker and hide under a blanket.

    That comparison doesn't really work though. A fit and healthy athlete may recover quickly but a large part of our population aren't as healthy as they think they are, we've become very accustomed to the western lifestyle and our heart disease figures say it all.

    Your average Irish Joe may not fair out as well as a marathon runner.

    For all we know, it is taking years off our lives. The effects don't have to be the immediate ones that you have mentioned.

    I'm not saying hide in a bunker, just to remain vigilant and don't return to normal, because this is all far from normal.


  • #8394
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    After all the lecturing the public got from the government, this may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. I can’t see people obeying all the new restrictions when they’ve been so clearly broken by a person who was involved in putting them together.
    Upsets me big time, my aunt died abroad in April and we had to bring her home via boat because all flights stopped. There was 10 of us at the funeral which had to be streamed on Facebook so her closest friends could watch. My grandmother hasn’t really recovered from it since, she couldn’t give a toss about the restrictions anymore after that.
    We’re being led by a load of clowns.


  • #8395
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    I don't like people who wear a mask in their Twitter picture (narcissism of some type, or fetish or something I don't know what, but it's an annoying trend).

    I don't like television "celebs" with any view on Covid, especially those who a) get it before everyone else, b) broadcast from their "shed", c) still feel the effects months later (cos while that's possible, I knew they definitely would).

    That's my negativity for this morning :)


  • #8396
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    partyguinness wrote: »
    I wouldn't read too much into the heart inflammation among athletes...that is not uncommon as another poster has mentioned. You should see what a marathon does to the body (recovers fine) and yet thousands of people run it every year.

    Personally I do not live my life fearing the unknowns. That is no way to live. In fact that is not living at all IMO. We do not know a lot about a lot of things- I am now in England I personally know several people who have had it including my wife's aunt. 'Very mild sickness' to 'nothing' to a 'bad flu like' is the feedback.

    The vast vast majority of people recover fine from it and come out the other side unscathe- we seem to lose sight of that and focus on the...what is it...2-3%.

    If you going for an operation with a 2-3% morality rate you would take the operation.

    Where do you draw the line? Might as well lock myself into a bunker and hide under a blanket. No thanks I'll act sensibly with my mask etc but I am not living in fear.

    Well said. You'd swear there was a 50:50 chance of kicking the bucket with this. Vulnerable/elderly people have to make choices, that's true. But you have to live your life without having so much fear you don't live it at all.


  • #8397
    Sunrise.Sunset
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ✭Sunrise.Sunset


    I have a friend who's working as a nanny for that GP family and she doesn't feel comfortable working any more in their home because there's no social distancing happening in her job. What would you recommend? Would she be able to claim dole? She said she would be happy even with normal dole never mind the PUP. She wants to keep safe from covid19 as much as anything and her job is huge risk.


  • #8398
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    It's concerning hearing reports of heart inflammation in healthy athletes (who can get an x-ray at the click of a finger) and one of our own GPs, who was asymptomatic and discovered heart inflammation months later also. How many others are walking about with this ailment, clueless they even had Covid.

    I fear the unknown and so should you, we don't know enough about this virus and I'd definitely rather not get it, if I can help it.

    Jesus the fearmongering on this thread this morning.


  • #8399
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Martins position itself is untenable imo. He has completely lost the support of the public.


  • #8400
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    My four year old was watching Paw Partol the other day and the pups had a cold. I asked it was it covid? and he said, "Daddy, Covid is a myth, nobody has it". Well matched to the restrictions thread I'd say

    Off topic, but your four year old using the word "myth" in the correct context is impressive.

    Sounds like you have a genius. 🙂


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  • #8401
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Jesus the fearmongering on this thread this morning.

    I'm not fear mongering, I'm referring back to two posts shared this morning and giving my opinion. In what way did I fear monger, these are facts.

    The term fear monger is thrown about so much lately that it's lost all meaning and has become a way for the likes of you to shut down anyone who isn't meeting your view.

    You probably hadn't even heard of the term before you decided to join this forum.


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