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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Disappointing that Cillian de Gascun went on the record with 'less than 5% seroprevalence'.

    When it's actually 1.7%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,390 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Piehead wrote: »
    It was gone but we never sealed the borders.

    Seal off the island from the rest of the world or patrol hundreds of km of the border to stop any movement over it? Not realistic. People need to stop thinking in terms of an individual country just wiping it out, that's not how global pandemics work without a vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    polesheep wrote: »
    Rubbish, it is an important part of family life that memories are made from. You suck it up all day long if you like and watch the empty years go by, but the horse has bolted and there will be feck all compliance going forward.

    Rose tinted glasses!
    Attending children's matches maybe very important for a parent who has fantasised about watching their children play sport since before their child was born, but children are usually not nearly as enthusiastic about having parents watch.
    A vaccine is expected a year from now. If we can't tolerate a year of on-off restrictions, we don't deserve to survive as a species! Too many of us are far too self centred and have stubbornly refused to reduce non essential travel and socialising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    This seroprevalence talk seems like testing propaganda. I highly doubt we picked up nearly 50% of cases.

    Yeah especially if people are asymptomatic and when close contacts don't have to be tested. People with mild illness might not even seek test either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,060 ✭✭✭eigrod




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    Lockdowns don't wipe it out, if they did it would have been gone by May.

    It was all but eradicated by mid June. The chance was there but nobody calling the shots had the sack to put the requisite measures in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Zara will her stupid questions again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Glynn seems snappy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭HeyV


    I wish they’d put up the full list of counties everyday when they announce the figures. I hate this ‘rest of cases spread out over 9 counties’. I know we find them out the next day etc but I think a lot of people like to know how their own county is doing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    What's the point of Ronan Glynn? He won't answer any questions and rehashes the same old sh1te.

    Just announce the numbers and leave, pointless otherwise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    NPHET waiting for Govt to make decisions. Hmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭feelings


    No we weren't. It was never going to be wiped out. It was suppressed and we did a good job getting to that point. We have to live with it now. Treatment has improved significantly. So what is the next plan?

    I cringe to think... was Boris right... is it time for herd immunity?
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    We were close, except we didn't control the factories and the borders


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Disappointing that Cillian de Gascun went on the record with 'less than 5% seroprevalence'.

    When it's actually 1.7%.

    1.7% is less than 5%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Dumb reporters asking questions that they know he cannot answer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    HeyV wrote: »
    I wish they’d put up the full list of counties everyday when they announce the figures. I hate this ‘rest of cases spread out over 9 counties’. I know we find them out the next day etc but I think a lot of people like to know how their own county is doing
    51 are in Dublin, 24 in Kildare, 12 in Kilkenny, 11 in Tipperary, 7 in Cork, 6 in Limerick, 6 in Wexford, 5 in Meath and the remaining 14 cases are in Carlow, Cavan, Donegal, Galway, Mayo, Offaly, Roscommon, Waterford and Wicklow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    so they are saying to continue socially distance & need to supress the virus

    But next week thousands of children & teachers will interact indoors for hours.
    Meat plants cause huge outbreaks but people cannot go to sports events now.

    No one wants another lockdown but these decisions will put us there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,133 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    Lockdowns don't wipe it out, if they did it would have been gone by May.

    They do when they're done properly. The full lockdown in Wuhan eliminated the virus.

    Our lockdown wasn't long enough nor strict enough to fully suppress the virus. Additionally, we allowed overseas visitors into the country with no supervision to reseed outbreaks.

    It will be interesting to see how the government starts to manage an increasing unwillingness to follow the guidelines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,390 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Strumms wrote: »
    I wonder did all the positivities like vaccine close and the numbers looking so much better get people a bit complacent ? Thinking we had this beaten beaten ?

    I wonder what roles psychologists and behavior experts are having in terms of advising government and in turn the media as to how they need to report what’s happening. Almost with some of the news reports it’s looked a bit too cuddly, fictional and distant.

    I'd say the opposite is the case in Ireland, the government banging the fear drum too hard and persisting with lockdown long after other countries lifted theirs has people rolling their eyes. Being a bit more straight up would have more people on board now.


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    HeyV wrote: »
    I wish they’d put up the full list of counties everyday when they announce the figures. I hate this ‘rest of cases spread out over 9 counties’. I know we find them out the next day etc but I think a lot of people like to know how their own county is doing

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/f501e-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-thursday-20-august/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    That number today is bad. Looks like with the schools opening they are shooting for herd immunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭Fann Linn





    We're all in this together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Love Zara King.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd



    Wow, I would say that's unbelievable but nothing is surprising me under this government


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40035389.html
    Minister and 80 people at golf event in breach of health guidelines
    Minister and 80 people at golf event in breach of health guidelines


    More than 80 people, including the Agriculture Minister, senators and TDs attended a golf function in a hotel in breach of public health guidelines just a day after the Government announced new lockdown measures to stop the spread of Covid-19.

    The Oireachtas Golf Society event to celebrate its 50th anniversary was held at a function room at the Station House Hotel, Clifden, Co Galway last night, even though public health advice clearly states "no formal or informal events or parties should be organised in these premises".

    The table plan listed 82 people for the sit-down function, with up to 10 people per table, even though guidelines state no more than six people should be seated at any one table.

    The hotel and society declined to confirm who had attended but the guest list included: Minister for Agriculture Dara Calleary and his wife Siobhan, Galway TD Noel Grealish, Senator Jerry Buttimer, Senator John Cummins, Senator Paul Daly, Senator Niall Blaney, former Fine Gael Senator Cáit Keane, Judge and former Attorney General Seamus Woulfe, the Moroccan Ambassador Lahcen Mahraoui, former Labour Party senator Lorraine Higgins, former Fine Gael Senator and TD for Sligo–Leitrim Gerry Reynolds, former Fine Gael senator Imelda Henry, Circuit Court judge and a former Workers' Party TD Pat McCartan, who serves as the vice-captain, and a number of others.

    The Agriculture Minister and others have confirmed their attendance while others have been contacted for comment.

    A spokesperson for the Minister of Agriculture said: “The Minister was asked to attend the dinner and speak in tribute to a deceased long-serving former Oireachtas member.

    "He did attend and spoke briefly. He left following the dinner and observed social distance throughout the event.”

    We may be changing our behaviour - but analysis of recent trends shows the virus isn't.

    The event was organised by the President of the society and former Fianna Fáil TD Donie Cassidy and honored Galway man and former Fianna Fáil MEP Mark Killilea Jnr, who died in 2018. Mr Killilea's family was in attendance at the event.

    A spokesman from The Station House Hotel said they consulted the Irish Hotels Federation, who told them that the event could go ahead with fewer than 50 people in each side of the room.

    "My understanding of dining arrangements is that in any dining room it has to be fewer than 50," he said.

    "There were 81 people at the event who dined with us, divided into 45 and 36.

    "It's not a Mickey Mouse partition, it's a proper physical structure that divides two rooms, but it can be removed.

    It was booked a few months ago, the guidelines were going to change 50 up to 100 but didn't, so we spoke to the Oireachtas Golf Society, and the Irish Hotel Federation (IHF), and we were told that as long as there were no more than 50 diners, it was safe.

    An email from the IHF to members on Wednesday, seen by the Irish, stated: "Further to the Government announcement yesterday in relation to further Covid-19 restrictions, the Department of Tourism has not yet received any guidance on the changes as of this morning.

    "Therefore, the status quo remains in terms of current operational procedures for hotels until further notice."

    The IHF says that it is seeking guidance from the Department of Tourism on the guidelines.

    Rise TD Paul Murphy said that the event should have been cancelled.

    "I think it's extremely poor that this event went ahead. It shows that they think it's one rule for them and another for everybody else.

    It sends a very poor message when figures from the political establishment openly flaunt the guidelines when ordinary people have to cancel parties, arts events and weddings.
    "Even if they could prove that the partition allows them get around the guidelines, it's a very flimsy excuse.

    "In any case, the message that it sends out - that you can get around the rules - is not one that the political establishment should be sending out."

    Taoiseach Micheál Martin today again appealed to people to reduce meetings and social contacts as much as possible as the virus continues to spread.

    "The overall message from NPHET public health advice is they want to reduce meetings as much as they possibly can.

    "They want people to reduce the number of social contacts that they have because the numbers have gone up.

    "We want to save lives, we want to protect livelihoods."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Nolan saying schools are not big drivers of COVID cases, but are of flu'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    1.7% of 5 million is 85000. So the story is we found one third of all cases all along. I find that hard to believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,855 ✭✭✭✭Strumms



    That’s just grim on so many levels. This is the quality of leadership we are lumbered with in the biggest threat to the country and its citizens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Prof. Nolan adamant community transmission remains low and schools can re-open without issues


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    It was all but eradicated by mid June. The chance was there but nobody calling the shots had the sack to put the requisite measures in place.

    “All but” which isn’t the same as eradication. There was always a certain level there and would go up once people Interact again. Lockdowns are a waste of time unless they’re permanent features


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