Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

stevek93 · 20-08-2020 05:27PM

My god we are so slow at testing here. Rang doctor on Tuesday with new cough and sore throat. Home test arranged test centre is to far away from house. I’m still waiting for someone to come out. If I am positive I need to know as I have been in contact with people recently.

Jimi H · 20-08-2020 05:28PM

Apologies if already posted but this could be very positive.

‘There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing’.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html

20-08-2020 05:28PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

His source for the 90% is Breitbart, which may or may not have an agenda. The doctor quoted said at the peak the mortality rate in his hospital was 11% and is now zero

https://twitter.com/tdwilliamsrome/status/1296410345809076224?s=20

If this were to be believed hugely encouraging news.

Rx713B · 20-08-2020 05:28PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Another DP outbreak, this time in Bray:

https://twitter.com/masi_asylum/status/1296423931646181376

Is this for real or fake ??

20-08-2020 05:28PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

His source for the 90% is Breitbart, which may or may not have an agenda. The doctor quoted said at the peak the mortality rate in his hospital was 11% and is now zero

https://twitter.com/tdwilliamsrome/status/1296410345809076224?s=20

Source, this is his Twitter bio

"Author and ethics prof. I deal in economics, philosophy, theology. Amateur mixologist and certified sommelier. Rome Bureau Chief for Breitbart News."

I would trust anyone involved with Breitbart as far as I could throw them.

stephenjmcd · 20-08-2020 05:29PM

Rx713B wrote: »

Is this for real or fake ??

Real

stephenjmcd · 20-08-2020 05:30PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Source, this is his Twitter bio

"Author and ethics prof. I deal in economics, philosophy, theology. Amateur mixologist and certified sommelier. Rome Bureau Chief for Breitbart News."

I would trust anyone involved with Breitbart as far as I could throw them.

Again the original article is from Corriere della Sera.

https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_agosto_20/nove-dieci-sono-asintomatici-noi-mortalita-si-azzerata-023a2aa4-e2b2-11ea-89b3-b56dd0df2aa2.shtml?refresh_ce

20-08-2020 05:31PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Source, this is his Twitter bio

"Author and ethics prof. I deal in economics, philosophy, theology. Amateur mixologist and certified sommelier. Rome Bureau Chief for Breitbart News."

I would trust anyone involved with Breitbart as far as I could throw them.

Is it the equivalent of say the red tops here sun/mirror etc.?

20-08-2020 05:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is it the equivalent of say the red tops here sun/mirror etc.?

They make sun etc look like a peer reviewed journal

stephenjmcd · 20-08-2020 05:34PM

Martin doesn't accept that the back to school plan is unsafe. Well he's hardly going to say it is ?

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1296480815325601794?s=19

DevilsHaircut · 20-08-2020 05:34PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Corriere della Sera would be reliable yes, that other one is a bit out there but its a rehash of this

https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_agosto_20/nove-dieci-sono-asintomatici-noi-mortalita-si-azzerata-023a2aa4-e2b2-11ea-89b3-b56dd0df2aa2.shtml?refresh_ce

A verbal interview with a single doctor is not data.

It's anecdote.

What Username Guidelines · 20-08-2020 05:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it the equivalent of say the red tops here sun/mirror etc.?

Trending on Breitbart now: Cheat-by-mail, Crime wave, China Virus

Self described as "The Huffington post of the far-right"

Basically the Daily Mail on steroids, but with a slightly less eye-twitchy website.

As Stephenjmcd pointed out though, there is a more reliable source for the claim of 90% - but his tweet saying "845, of which 90% asymptomatic" isn't really as factual as he's making out. It's more he heard a claim that 90% don't show symptoms, and he attached that to the positive results today.

JP Liz V1 · 20-08-2020 05:35PM

Will rescheduled confirmations and holy communions go ahead?

joseywhales · 20-08-2020 05:35PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Source, this is his Twitter bio

"Author and ethics prof. I deal in economics, philosophy, theology. Amateur mixologist and certified sommelier. Rome Bureau Chief for Breitbart News."

I would trust anyone involved with Breitbart as far as I could throw them.

I don't trust anyone to be an expert in more than one subject to begin with.

polesheep · 20-08-2020 05:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1296473325846384640?s=21

It's amazing the number of people who say trust the experts when it comes to supporting restrictions, yet won't trust those same experts when it comes to going back to school.

20-08-2020 05:36PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

They make sun etc look like a peer reviewed journal

:pac::pac:

ACitizenErased · 20-08-2020 05:36PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Will rescheduled confirmations and holy communions go ahead?

Communions took place in Gurranbraher, Mayfield and Farranree in Cork last weekend.

stephenjmcd · 20-08-2020 05:36PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is it the equivalent of say the red tops here sun/mirror etc.?

Original source is not Breitbart. Its Corriere della Sera which carried the interview

JP Liz V1 · 20-08-2020 05:37PM

stevek93 wrote: »

My god we are so slow at testing here. Rang doctor on Tuesday with new cough and sore throat. Home test arranged test centre is to far away from house. I’m still waiting for someone to come out. If I am positive I need to know as I have been in contact with people recently.

An ambulance should come out, can you call 999 or your GP again?

Take Care

stephenjmcd · 20-08-2020 05:38PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

A verbal interview with a single doctor is not data.

It's anecdote.

And ? He gives the view from his hosptial.

It's an extremely high number for cases being asymptomatic in 1 hosptial alone. It is not data but it is an insight nonetheless if you actually read it

20-08-2020 05:38PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Again the original article is from Corriere della Sera.

https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_agosto_20/nove-dieci-sono-asintomatici-noi-mortalita-si-azzerata-023a2aa4-e2b2-11ea-89b3-b56dd0df2aa2.shtml?refresh_ce

And if you read the actual article you see quotes from the expert interviewed like this which aren't mentioned

At least 90 percent of these swab positive patients are asymptomatic - comments Bassetti -. Which means they are not sick. But they still need to be quarantined. After all, this is what happens for other infectious diseases: if a person, to say, has a Pseudomonas infection, it must be isolated, because this germ causes serious infections

20-08-2020 05:39PM

polesheep wrote: »

It's amazing the number of people who say trust the experts when it comes to supporting restrictions, yet won't trust those same experts when it comes to going back to school.

I'd say she just doesn't want to go back for herself and family. Full pay for 5 months probably not doing a massive amount of work.

I can't blame her reservations all the same.

stephenjmcd · 20-08-2020 05:39PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Will rescheduled confirmations and holy communions go ahead?

Going ahead in my area last week or two anyway, church is exempt from the new limits as far as anyone can tell, so I'd assume they'll keep going.

They're doing them like 2 at a time here anyway giving them time slots

caveat emptor · 20-08-2020 05:40PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Just had lunch with my sister.

I remember her partner was tested few months back when he was sick and it was negative. He works in health and safety and got these new tests that supposedly check for antibodies aswell and it seems he has some anti bodies which means he had (had not has edit) COVID.

She has a friend in UCD who said 25% of tests can give false positives.

I don’t find this alarming as I still think it’s easy to forget we are early doors in the pandemic and mistakes will be made. It’s more a good reminder that mistakes are being made and we get the information that our authorities believe are relevant. There’s no conspiracy with this line of thought, more a reminder that there really are variables about the virus we are still trying to figure out, including how to communicate information.

I've a friend in a different college who says that tests can be 25% false negative depending on how the swab is conducted.

Of course I don't have a source for it and neither do you so here we are.

Martina knows the accuracy of the tests I guess. If the false positive rate was 25% we'd have a few more cases. Or is it that 25% of positives are false positives?

Either way commenting on accuracy of tests without any accompanying sources is dodgy territory.

JP Liz V1 · 20-08-2020 05:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Communions took place in Gurranbraher, Mayfield and Farranree in Cork last weekend.

With now is it 6 only? The message is very confusing

ACitizenErased · 20-08-2020 05:42PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

With now is it 6 only? The message is very confusing

It's a church so can continue as normal

What Username Guidelines · 20-08-2020 05:42PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

With now is it 6 only? The message is very confusing

Michael Martin said it isn't confusing, so you're clearly wrong if you're confused :rolleyes:

Oranage2 · 20-08-2020 05:42PM

Slow with the figures today.

is_that_so · 20-08-2020 05:43PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

With now is it 6 only? The message is very confusing

Not in the Church, if they do the afters in a field it goes up to 15!

stephenjmcd · 20-08-2020 05:43PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Slow with the figures today.

Think it was posted earlier 6.30 press conference today, assume they won't be out until then

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