Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

coastwatch · 19-08-2020 08:25PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Dr Glynn gives further explanation for the benefit of the GAA, Leo Varadkar, Michael McNamara, Ryanair and the rest of his attackers and assorted whatabouters.

https://twitter.com/ronan_glynn/status/1296141115553394694

That was poor form by the GAA to so publicly challenge Ronan Glynn and NEPHET on the revised restrictions.
The GAA are entitled to seek an explanation for changes impacting sport, but it should be done through the usual channels.
It came across as a bit of a temper tantrum, after being shown a "yellow card".

paddyisreal · 19-08-2020 08:28PM

Would live to know of the 75 family clusters, how many originated in meat factories and direct provisioning centers.

Lundstram · 19-08-2020 08:30PM

coastwatch wrote: »

That was poor form by the GAA to so publicly challenge Ronan Glynn and NEPHET on the revised restrictions.
The GAA are entitled to seek an explanation for changes impacting sport, but it should be done through the usual channels.
It came across as a bit of a temper tantrum, after being given a "black card".

You didn't seem to have a problem with the Vitners Association publicly condeming NPHET so why should the GAA be any different?

The GAA have handed over stadiums for testing and do everything by the letter of the law regarding Covid19. As a player myself I know this for a fact. Very thorough throughout all this.

They're well within their rights to question Glynn and get answers that its 300,000 members want.

ACitizenErased · 19-08-2020 08:31PM

Lads.... oh my god. That’s all I have to say.
https://twitter.com/virginmedianews/status/1296165049950765061?s=21

almostover · 19-08-2020 08:34PM

A trip to a local supermarket has highlighted to me that the main reason for these increased restrictions is the general apathy of the public to personal responsibility. Guy behind me sauntered into the supermarket with no mask on. Headphones on and oblivious to all around him. 3-4 more people with the mask below the nose as if the nose isn't connected in any way to their respiratory system. Another person with a face shield I wouldn't wear strimming, pretty sure the visors have been shown to be of limited effectiveness. Demoralising stuff really

fritzelly · 19-08-2020 08:34PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lads.... oh my god. That’s all I have to say.
https://twitter.com/virginmedianews/status/1296165049950765061?s=21

Schools with thousands of kids are controlled environments but homes are not?
Couldn't make it up

KrustyUCC · 19-08-2020 08:40PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1296147049730027520?s=19

Madness

drunkmonkey · 19-08-2020 08:42PM

coastwatch wrote: »

That was poor form by the GAA to so publicly challenge Ronan Glynn and NEPHET on the revised restrictions.
The GAA are entitled to seek an explanation for changes impacting sport, but it should be done through the usual channels.
It came across as a bit of a temper tantrum, after being shown a "yellow card".

You weren't at training this evening then, crazy rules with no logic or science to back then up. Much like a lot of the nonsense people are accepting without question. Toasted Sandwiches, Buses, Weddings to name a few.
When they buried that lady in 6ft of concrete in west cork they lost me, from that point on I knew people had lost it.

drunkmonkey · 19-08-2020 08:49PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Schools with thousands of kids are controlled environments but homes are not?
Couldn't make it up

Driving a car is more deadly along with a trampoline. Can we agree it's a hoax now??

stephenjmcd · 19-08-2020 08:49PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lads.... oh my god. That’s all I have to say.
https://twitter.com/virginmedianews/status/1296165049950765061?s=21

Thats a painful watch
First the driving a car example then there's this,

"We manage risk in our lives... our children being on trampolines is an inherently risky to do"

caveat emptor · 19-08-2020 08:52PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lads.... oh my god. That’s all I have to say.
https://twitter.com/virginmedianews/status/1296165049950765061?s=21

Zara king is a legend. Donnelly didn't sound half bad until he started trying to compare the risk of driving a car and a whole school closing and kids and teachers getting sick, bringing it home and people dying.

As Zara correctly stated. Not the same.

Trampolines are lethal though.

Akesh · 19-08-2020 08:53PM

I think at this rate the government will be lucky to see the end of September. Embarrassing so far. Donnelly is out of his depth. The advice is based on 'expert' opinion but logic would suggest otherwise. To borrow a phrase from the GAA, they have lost the dressing room.

Patser · 19-08-2020 08:55PM

Glynn's message earlier was very good, very clear and simple. Showed the thinking behind yesterday's recommendations, and cut through a lot of the confusion.

Donnelly then talks himself in circles and we're back in a land of confusion (copyright Genesis)

podgeandrodge · 19-08-2020 09:00PM

almostover wrote: »

A trip to a local supermarket has highlighted to me that the main reason for these increased restrictions is the general apathy of the public to personal responsibility. Guy behind me sauntered into the supermarket with no mask on. Headphones on and oblivious to all around him. 3-4 more people with the mask below the nose as if the nose isn't connected in any way to their respiratory system. Another person with a face shield I wouldn't wear strimming, pretty sure the visors have been shown to be of limited effectiveness. Demoralising stuff really

Christ. And to think of the amount of us that were doing that for the first 4 months of the virus :eek: Oh wait, not many cases though

khalessi · 19-08-2020 09:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lads.... oh my god. That’s all I have to say.
https://twitter.com/virginmedianews/status/1296165049950765061?s=21

OMG!!! Along with just being a car crash of an interviw he admitted to being worried about his 3 kids going back and also said homes are uncontrolled environments!!! Gobsmacked

19-08-2020 09:04PM

Patser wrote: »

Glynn's message earlier was very good, very clear and simple. Showed the thinking behind yesterday's recommendations, and cut through a lot of the confusion.

Donnelly then talks himself in circles and we're back in a land of confusion (copyright Genesis)

Glynn has been with this from start and knows what he is talking about. Not as confident a speaker as Tony and does find it difficult when challenged.

Donnelly is a clown.

Covid is like driving a car. :pac:

School openings should be delayed until end of September to see if we can get get a handle on this.

timmy_mallet · 19-08-2020 09:05PM

Strumms wrote: »

Nothing is normal and nothing WILL be normal as long as there is a situation on this planet where a highly contagious virus has killed 777,000 people globally and that virus hasn’t existed before outside a laboratory.

One person dies from covid every 15 seconds.... look at your watch folks, that isn’t made up.

Dies with or from? And that's historical calcs, not current trend

One child, child, dies from hunger every 10 seconds, look at your watch folks, etc.

In the US a person dies of pneumonia every 10 minutes.

19-08-2020 09:05PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lads.... oh my god. That’s all I have to say.
https://twitter.com/virginmedianews/status/1296165049950765061?s=21

I’m in shock. Pure comedy gold.

For all the wrong reasons.

robbiezero · 19-08-2020 09:05PM

Patser wrote: »

Glynn's message earlier was very good, very clear and simple. Showed the thinking behind yesterday's recommendations, and cut through a lot of the confusion.

Donnelly then talks himself in circles and we're back in a land of confusion (copyright Genesis)

I presume the twitter text matches the video.
I still see no good reason for the outdoor sport restrictions and it doesn't look like the GAA will be getting any empirical evidence from him.

Whatever minuscule if any amount of cases might have been saved from these outdoor restrictions surely has not been worth the confusion, annoyance and loss of credibility of the Government. But I guess that is the politicians fault.
They really should have been able to weigh up the impact of the proposals and balance them against the impact and reaction of the public.

podgeandrodge · 19-08-2020 09:06PM

khalessi wrote: »

OMG!!! Along with just being a car crash of an interviw he admitted to being worried about his 3 kids going back and also said homes are uncontrolled environments!!! Gobsmacked

Clearly speaking from his own experience. We should call Tusla on him

Quantum Erasure · 19-08-2020 09:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Trampolines are lethal though.

Especially in a storm....

thelad95 · 19-08-2020 09:19PM

Donnelly is a pure career politician the same way a certain Mr Johnson in the UK is.

Listening to him shíte on nonsensically with patronizing analogies about schools re-opening and the every day danger of getting behind the wheel of a car, you realise he really has no idea what he's talking about. Remind me of Boris talking down the virus last February with no scientific or empirical back up to the woeful misinformation he's spreading.

To give credit to Simon Harris, he didn't come from a scientific background but he definitely made efforts to learn about the virus, constantly referring to the R number and trying not to spread misinformation.

normanoffside · 19-08-2020 09:21PM

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

We seem to be back to our old trick of denotifying cases/deaths. Total number of cases only increased by 44 today and total number of deaths didn't increase at all. How are we still sneaking in denotifications at this stage, can't they just wait until they are confirmed before including them in the numbers!? I can only assume that it is another way of inflating the numbers and keep the fear level high.

The 2 Deaths make the headlines and the 2 denotifications aren't even mentioned in most pres releases. It's farcical.

flutered · 19-08-2020 09:24PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is Limerick high from sports clubs and Kilkee beach party tracings etc.,

i believe that some are from a traveler funeral in a county town

timmy_mallet · 19-08-2020 09:25PM

Does anyone have any numbers on COVID deaths In Ireland that happened in the last n number of weeks? Is that data available? Or is just notifications of death certs?

robbiezero · 19-08-2020 09:25PM

normanoffside wrote: »

The 2 Deaths make the headlines and the 2 denotifications aren't even mentioned in most pres releases. It's farcical.

I see Fergal Bowers on the news didn't know if the 2 deaths were recent or from a while ago. How is he not being told this?

Deeper Blue · 19-08-2020 09:28PM

Donnelly and Martin are local TD standard at best.

The fact that they're the two most prominent politicians in the country during this crisis is a joke.

Martin as a public speaker reminds me of a first year college student doing a powerpoint presentation. Amateurish and embarrassing.

Donnelly is an abomination, households not controlled environments? Jesus Christ

19-08-2020 09:30PM

owlbethere wrote: »

The Oxford vaccine is looking very promising and it will be with us by Christmas. It will take some more months to roll it out across the population.

Here is hoping. I would happily take it before Christmas.

khalessi · 19-08-2020 09:33PM

So Eammon Ryan admits that there are contradictions in the safety advice but schools are essential so be it.

Stephen Donnelly tells us that schools are controlled environments and homes are not. Also that he is worried for his own 3 children returning to primary school.

Norma is not available for questions

The government have said there are plenty of teachers but we still have positions to fill and 4 substitute teachers are to contracted to cover absences in my school and 15 other schools, so conservatively covering a minimum of 700 teachers.

Wow!! I'm feeking confident. Sure be grand

landofthetree · 19-08-2020 09:35PM

thelad95 wrote: »

Donnelly is a pure career politician the same way a certain Mr Johnson in the UK is.

Listening to him shíte on nonsensically with patronizing analogies about schools re-opening and the every day danger of getting behind the wheel of a car, you realise he really has no idea what he's talking about. Remind me of Boris talking down the virus last February with no scientific or empirical back up to the woeful misinformation he's spreading.

To give credit to Simon Harris, he didn't come from a scientific background but he definitely made efforts to learn about the virus, constantly referring to the R number and trying not to spread misinformation.

That's not true. He had a career before he went into politics.

Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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