FF/FG/Green Next Government

Brendan Bendar · 19-08-2020 04:37PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I would try to govern without dithering and chaos.

Clear and concise messages and policy.
Do not say things like 'we are following expert advice' when you are not, you are making political decisions based on who has the loudest voice.

Would having to check with the AC not add an extra layer of ‘management’ to your governance?

Look at up North where poor Bobby’s ‘funeral’ was pure chaos, and a coach and four driven through the regs.

Would’nt promulgate too much confidence, a chara.

Brendan Bendar · 19-08-2020 04:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Such dishonest lunacy.....1/2 meat factory workers were found to aspomathic,

Its obvious enough,its been picked up on holidays back to eastern europe,and likes of goodman and quelly group not paying extra holidays or for quarantine period upon return leading to lads having to work

We should bring in 2 week paid off for quarantine for all forgien workers on top of their holidays,factories are glad to gouge on wages/terms make them pay for this mess

Ha ha ha the auld ‘go to ‘ mantra of the ‘bullhorn brigade’. Let the ‘rich’ pay.

The auld magic money tree is fairly droopy looking now.

RandomViewer · 19-08-2020 04:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Such dishonest lunacy.....1/2 meat factory workers were found to aspomathic,

Its obvious enough,its been picked up on holidays back to eastern europe,and likes of goodman and quelly group not paying extra holidays or for quarantine period upon return leading to lads having to work

We should bring in 2 week paid off for quarantine for all forgien workers on top of their holidays,factories are glad to gouge on wages/terms make them pay for this mess

Think if they brought a letter saying they'd been tested a few days before coming back they didn't have to quarantine, even though the most likely source of infection would be the airport (s) and plane (s) returning to Ireland.

Bishop of hope · 19-08-2020 04:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Such dishonest lunacy.....1/2 meat factory workers were found to aspomathic,

Its obvious enough,its been picked up on holidays back to eastern europe,and likes of goodman and quelly group not paying extra holidays or for quarantine period upon return leading to lads having to work

We should bring in 2 week paid off for quarantine for all forgien workers on top of their holidays,factories are glad to gouge on wages/terms make them pay for this mess

2 weeks paid quarentine for all foreign workers?
Why stop there, why not 2 weeks paid for all workers who go on foreign holidays?
That's a ridiculous suggestion.
Not all or even close to all foreign workers work in meat factories or even factories.

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2020 04:59PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Would having to check with the AC not add an extra layer of ‘management’ to your governance?

Look at up North where poor Bobby’s ‘funeral’ was pure chaos, and a coach and four driven through the regs.

Would’nt promulgate too much confidence, a chara.

Anyone been charged with breaking regs at that funeral?

Nice deflection there Bren.

Brendan Bendar · 19-08-2020 05:28PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Anyone been charged with breaking regs at that funeral?

Nice deflection there Bren.

Not even the lads waving the guns around later on for the selfies Francie.

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2020 05:39PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Not even the lads waving the guns around later on for the selfies Francie.

Anyone being charged with breaking regs Brendan?

Being a fool in a selfie or preening yourself in a shoe shop etc are not offences yet afaik.

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 06:02PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I would try to govern without dithering and chaos.

Clear and concise messages and policy.
Do not say things like 'we are following expert advice' when you are not, you are making political decisions based on who has the loudest voice.

Again I think you are just trying to get post count up. You posted the same thing hours ago. I have the same answer by the way

The message was clear and concise. They told everyone exactly what the new guidelines are on live broadcast, then went onto primetime. Released on facebook and done a number of radio interview. What exactly is not clear to you?

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 06:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Such dishonest lunacy.....1/2 meat factory workers were found to aspomathic,

Its obvious enough,its been picked up on holidays back to eastern europe,and likes of goodman and quelly group not paying extra holidays or for quarantine period upon return leading to lads having to work

We should bring in 2 week paid off for quarantine for all forgien workers on top of their holidays,factories are glad to gouge on wages/terms make them pay for this mess

Ahh yes it was "da foreigner"

Can't beat a little bit of Irish racism.

Sure we would be grand if it wasn't for "da foreigner"

Let not forget the original outbreak was brought to Ireland by........"da Irish" who had to go on holidays to Italy even after been told not to.

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 06:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Mate....meat prices are through the roof this year?

Up by near on 20% at farm gate in some cases.....everyone is making good money in that sector this year,

if they want to pack their plants with eastern europeans,let them pay for quarantine after they return to visit families.....no point in letting society breakdown to line billionaires pockets imo

Meat price up....milk is white gold. We may all quit our job and become farmers

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2020 06:06PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Again I think you are just trying to get post count up. You posted the same thing hours ago. I have the same answer by the way

The message was clear and concise. They told everyone exactly what the new guidelines are on live broadcast, then went onto primetime. Released on facebook and done a number of radio interview. What exactly is not clear to you?

Exactly the same thing as is not clear to the largest sporting organistion in the country - the reasoning and rationale.

McMurphy · 19-08-2020 06:10PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Ahh yes it was "da foreigner"

Can't beat a little bit of Irish racism.

Sure we would be grand if it wasn't for "da foreigner"

Let not forget the original outbreak was brought to Ireland by........"da Irish" who had to go on holidays to Italy even after been told not to.

Just as stupid and equally brain-dead contribution since Leo's "white middle class male" brainfart.

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 06:13PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Exactly the same thing as is not clear to the largest sporting organistion in the country - the reasoning and rationale.

The GAA need money, the main source of revenue is shut down. The government just shut down all sports. Of course they are going against it

This actually proves your "lobby" as the rubbish it it, do you not think the GAA would be one of the first to get their way?

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 06:14PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Just as stupid and equally brain-dead contribution since Leo's "white middle class male" brainfart.

Maybe, just maybe you could actually discuss the topic instead of ranting and ravign and throwing insults around like a 5 year old.

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2020 06:19PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The GAA need money, the main source of revenue is shut down. The government just shut down all sports. Of course they are going against it

This actually proves your "lobby" as the rubbish it it, do you not think the GAA would be one of the first to get their way?

The GAA is about more than money. Tremendous effort has gone into getting compliant.

Not aware of the GAA being heavyweight lobbyists.
Doesn't explain the rationale though when set against other allowed gatherings

McMurphy · 19-08-2020 06:29PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Maybe, just maybe you could actually discuss the topic instead of ranting and ravign and throwing insults around like a 5 year old.

I'm simply pointing out silly posts - that's not ranting and raving.

You are trying to pull the racist card out because people have suggested eastern European meatplant workers returning from their home countries should be allowed to quarantine at the meat processing plants cost. (It's racist to suggest they're given a privilege now, what

)

That's no more racist than to suggest that it's mandatory for Paddy Moloney from Carlow to self quarantine after coming back from Santa Ponsa or another country not on the green list.

Please, put a little bit of thought into your posts before submitting them, it's not too much to ask.

Edgware · 19-08-2020 06:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nothing racist there kid....no point in burying head in ground and pretending its those from D4 and kids of ffg members getting this in meat factories lines....but sure scream racism to shut down debate

(Actually didnt you pedel.the line they were putting ice in mouth etc to cheat the temp checks?)

Did anyone say otherwise??

I thought it was the "horsey" crowd coming from Cheltenham Joe

McMurphy · 19-08-2020 06:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

For clarity sake,i do also believe the same should be offered to brazillian meat factory employees (and any other country!)

In case more people pile in screaming racist :rolleyes:

I think that was pretty clear for everyone , bar the hard of understanding, or the faux outrage brigade.

Foreign workers who may be getting exploited by the meat processing plants should be allowed to self quarantine, on full pay if they're returning to Ireland from their home countries, assuming those countries aren't on the green list = "racist"

You couldn't make this shyt up, you really couldn't.

smurgen · 19-08-2020 07:58PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Ahh yes it was "da foreigner"

Can't beat a little bit of Irish racism.

Sure we would be grand if it wasn't for "da foreigner"

Let not forget the original outbreak was brought to Ireland by........"da Irish" who had to go on holidays to Italy even after been told not to.

Haha this is the same slur used to try and distract from the criticism of Keelings. Some hope of this one working for the spin unit.

smurgen · 19-08-2020 08:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For clarity sake,i do also believe the same should be offered to brazillian meat factory employees (and any other country!)

In case more people pile in screaming racist :rolleyes:

How can those giving out about the meat factories employees be racist if those are the same people asking for direct provision to be shut down?, How does the spin unit square that one?

RandomViewer · 19-08-2020 08:09PM

smurgen wrote: »

Haha this is the same slur used to try and distract from the criticism of Keelings. Some hope of this one working for the spin unit.

Tries to get you threadbanned, caught me on the Keelings thread,

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 08:16PM

smurgen wrote: »

Haha this is the same slur used to try and distract from the criticism of Keelings. Some hope of this one working for the spin unit.

If you read the original post. According to the poster the only reason we have this outbreak was due to "da foreigner". Back tracking now on it is just more desperation from a racist

smurgen wrote: »

How can those giving out about the meat factories employees be racist if those are the same people asking for direct provision to be shut down?, How does the spin unit square that one?

So let me get this straight, you can be racist to people because they have asked for something?

Wow that is some statement to come out with.

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2020 08:20PM

No confusion they say.

https://mobile.twitter.com/hlinehan/status/1296177569465872386

It's all clear and rational they say.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1296174111736070145

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 08:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Nothing racist there kid....no point in burying head in ground and pretending its those from D4 and kids of ffg members getting this in meat factories lines....but sure scream racism to shut down debate

You should read your post

Deleted User wrote: »

(Actually didnt you pedel.the line they were putting ice in mouth etc to cheat the temp checks?)

Again showing your racism. I said factory workers. Only you have come to the assumption that made a reference to "da foreigner".

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 08:24PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No confusion they say.

https://mobile.twitter.com/hlinehan/status/1296177569465872386

It's all clear and rational they say.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1296174111736070145

What are you confused about Francie? or you just going to spend the night copying and pasting random tweets as some sort of proof?

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2020 08:25PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What are you confused about Francie? or you just going to spend the night copying and pasting random tweets as some sort of proof?

In denial Shef?

That figures.

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 08:28PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

In denial Shef?

That figures.

What am I denying?

Shefwedfan · 19-08-2020 08:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I did....you cant just scream racist at anyone who mentions forgiener....makes you seem insane

Nowhere did i mention forgiener there??

This is kind of like,when you got confused and taught LA was los angeles in a conversation about local autority housing....perhaps you should contemplate reading peoples posts,beforw flying off the handle insinuating x,y and z?

Not confused at all.

P.S. Wasn't on the LA either but you were in such a rush to reply you didn't even read the posts.....even after explaining you didn't understand

FrancieBrady · 19-08-2020 08:33PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What am I denying?

That there is confusion and a lack of rational thinking emanating from government.

I have produced links that show I am by far not the only one has noticed it.

All you have done so far is try to censor me from producing those links. Sooner or later you need to defend the government with something other than invective and deflection or if you cannot do that...say nothing at all.

James Brown · 19-08-2020 08:33PM

smurgen wrote: »

How can those giving out about the meat factories employees be racist if those are the same people asking for direct provision to be shut down?, How does the spin unit square that one?

Follow the leader. #WLM

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