Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

Flow Motion · 19-08-2020 04:39PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Besides hyperbole and an anti MM jibe what is this supposed to mean?

Our current tripartite leader is making a priority of the schools returning his big contribution to the ongoing pandemic. Smacks of egomania to me. Not at all like someone from the People's Republic!

Still can't wait for Super-Green-man Eamonn Ryan to finally wake up and save us all from this never ending groundhog existence

John O.Groats · 19-08-2020 04:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Or there's private testing involved, which is just ludicrous imo

Why is it ludicrous in your opinion?

Strumms · 19-08-2020 04:40PM

Gruffalox wrote: »

I don't get depressed, but I sometimes do get an occasional twinge of mask envy! One of my pals has a superb and ridiculously stylish selection. I am a mere pleb in the blue medical things - but I find them lighter.

https://i.redd.it/2slpuepvhft41.jpg

ACitizenErased · 19-08-2020 04:43PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Why is it ludicrous in your opinion?

The fact that the HSE can't do more than 6k tests a day for an entire week? Do you think that's acceptable?
100k a week, yeah right. Complete spin.

Arghus · 19-08-2020 04:43PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

The predicted deaths were absolutely farcical and have resulted in huge damage to people worldwide.

The predicted death figures were based on what would happen if no countermeasures were put in place or no actions taken to prevent the spread of the virus.

They didn't happen because action was taken and countermeasures were put in place.

How do some people still not get this?

MOR316 · 19-08-2020 04:49PM

Strumms wrote: »

Wearing a mask, my face gets a bit warmer..... so say if I’m looking in a shop window or at the park with nobody around I’ll take it down for 30 secs or a minute, grab a drink... back on again and go... I wash and sterilize the reusable masks every night... put an ice pack on it for 15 before wearing so it’s cold, that means most days it never really gets too hot.... and I have zero opportunity to be snotting onto my keyboard in the evening ... “ ohhh I can’t wear a mask, boo boo, ohh my mental heath, ohh I can’t breathe, ohh I get depressed if somebody has a nicer mask”

I read that in Patrick Bateman's voice

Loafing Oaf · 19-08-2020 04:50PM

owlbethere wrote: »

God, that's not good at all. These players would have been tested because of team sports and perhaps someone close to them being a positive. These players would have been asymptomatic and now some of them are displaying lesions on their lungs. That really isn't good.

Are other people who were positive and asymptomatic getting xrays done to establish if there's anything on their lungs?

Players plural in one squad of 25-30?:eek:

lee_baby_simms · 19-08-2020 04:50PM

Arghus wrote: »

The predicted death figures were based on what would happen if no countermeasures were put in place or no actions taken to prevent the spread of the virus.

They didn't happen because action was taken and countermeasures were put in place.

How do some people still not get this?

You're a FG/FF politicians wet dream.

https://www.aier.org/article/imperial-college-model-applied-to-sweden-yields-preposterous-results/

19-08-2020 04:51PM

Arghus wrote: »

The predicted death figures were based on what would happen if no countermeasures were put in place or no actions taken to prevent the spread of the virus.

They didn't happen because action was taken and countermeasures were put in place.

How do some people still not get this?

Because they looked at Sweden and saw it wasn't true.

Not to mention the months that countries have been open since the peak with no major death tolls.

timmy_mallet · 19-08-2020 04:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Because they looked at Sweden and saw it wasn't true.

Not to mention the months that countries have been open since the peak with no major death tolls.

Also;

"STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Sweden’s decision to keep schools open during the pandemic resulted in no higher rate of infection among its schoolchildren than in neighbouring Finland, where schools did temporarily close, their public health agencies said in a joint report."

JP Liz V1 · 19-08-2020 04:59PM

seanb85 wrote: »

Is it a reusable one? Might be the detergent if you've been washing it in the machine.

Yes reuseable I got a few and am handwashing daily

caveat emptor · 19-08-2020 05:03PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

And would be interesting to know if those players had the lesions before COVID too.

Yeah I’d say it’s unlikely that they would be able to reach that level of aerobic performance with lesions on their lungs.

I don’t know enough about them to say. Why did they postpone game if they had them and it made no difference. One to watch.

stephenjmcd · 19-08-2020 05:04PM

So outdoor theatre can continue with 200 but 50 people can't go to a football match. More nonsense but no surprise

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1296111355288838145?s=19

is_that_so · 19-08-2020 05:05PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

You're a FG/FF politicians wet dream.

https://www.aier.org/article/imperial-college-model-applied-to-sweden-yields-preposterous-results/

That's nearly 5 months out of date. That was generally rubbished everywhere at the time anyway. What exactly has this got to do with FF/FG and nocturnal emissions?

ACitizenErased · 19-08-2020 05:05PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

So outdoor theatre can continue but 50 people can't go to a football match. More nonsense but no surprise

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1296111355288838145?s=19

They claimed it's because they're "controlled environments".
I was at a junior hurling game at a divisional venue/stadium last night, fully ticketed, they watch you washing your hands when you're walking in, and they come around and make sure you're distanced. How is that not controlled?

stephenjmcd · 19-08-2020 05:07PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They claimed it's because they're "controlled environments".
I was at a junior hurling game at a divisional venue/stadium last night, fully ticketed, they watch you washing your hands when you're walking in, and they come around and make sure you're distanced. How is that not controlled?

I've been at 4 matches since crowds were allowed, 4 seats minimum between everyone, details filled in online before arriving for contact tracing, double checked again on the gate, if your names not there you aren't getting in, sanitizer your hands and then get a wristband.

How in the name of god is that not controlled

lee_baby_simms · 19-08-2020 05:07PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That's nearly 5 months out of date. That was generally rubbished everywhere at the time anyway. What exactly has this got to do with FF/FG and nocturnal emissions?

The imperial college models were not rubbished back in March.

is_that_so · 19-08-2020 05:07PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

So outdoor theatre can continue with 200 but 50 people can't go to a football match. More nonsense but no surprise

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1296111355288838145?s=19

It's the before and after not the sports themselves is how they were explaining it. One must assume that cases are emerging linked to such scenarios for them to highlight it.

Arghus · 19-08-2020 05:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Because they looked at Sweden and saw it wasn't true.

Not to mention the months that countries have been open since the peak with no major death tolls.

Sweden took measures. They didn't do nothing. Look it up.

No country has completely open since. the peak. What you're talking about isn't true.

is_that_so · 19-08-2020 05:10PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

The imperial college models were not rubbished back in March.

By April they were. Why are you linking to details on it?

lee_baby_simms · 19-08-2020 05:13PM

is_that_so wrote: »

By April they were. Why are you linking to details on it?

Because the imperial college models were used to justify measures back in March amongst other wildly inaccurate predictions.

The people at the helm in March would love the voting public to believe that it was their fearless decisive action and expert advice that helped saved tens of thousands of lives.

Arghus · 19-08-2020 05:15PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

You're a FG/FF politicians wet dream.

https://www.aier.org/article/imperial-college-model-applied-to-sweden-yields-preposterous-results/

Great link to an American Right Wing Think Tanks website.

I'm sure you're not blinded by bias at all.

lee_baby_simms · 19-08-2020 05:16PM

Arghus wrote: »

Great link to an American Right Wing Think Tanks website.

I'm sure you're not blinded by bias at all.

Lol, how does that impact the imperial college model predictions?

Not sure I have the bias.

is_that_so · 19-08-2020 05:18PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Because the imperial college models were used to justify measures back in March amongst other wildly inaccurate predictions.

The people at the helm in March would love the voting public to believe that it was their fearless decisive action and expert advice that helped saved tens of thousands of lives.

No, they weren't. They were looking at Italy, China, France and Spain. We were largely ignoring the UK as they were off hunting herd immunity for a bit. As a strategy what we did helped ease pressure in our wobbly health system and we got down to very low numbers by July. People died as they did everywhere, and pretty much the same locations were exposed.

yawhat? · 19-08-2020 05:19PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I've been at 4 matches since crowds were allowed, 4 seats minimum between everyone, details filled in online before arriving for contact tracing, double checked again on the gate, if your names not there you aren't getting in, sanitizer your hands and then get a wristband.

How in the name of god is that not controlled

They explained quite clearly the rationale for the decision. People were congregating before and after matches and sharing transport to matches. Yet you choose to completely ignore the reasons provided and engage in more whataboutery.

fritzelly · 19-08-2020 05:21PM

SD on Newstalk - threatening national lockdown when asked to explain the new restrictions (and getting laid into)

ACitizenErased · 19-08-2020 05:22PM

yawhat? wrote: »

They explained quite clearly the rationale for the decision. People were congregating before and after matches and sharing transport to matches. Yet you choose to completely ignore the reasons provided and engage in more whataboutery.

I haven't shared transport with someone to a match since I was 13.

is_that_so · 19-08-2020 05:22PM

yawhat? wrote: »

They explained quite clearly the rationale for the decision. People were congregating before and after matches and sharing transport to matches. Yet you choose to completely ignore the reasons provided and engage in more whataboutery.

In fairness to posters quite vexed about this, the communication around it has been very poor and it does look like sectors are being picked on for no good reason.

MOR316 · 19-08-2020 05:22PM

fritzelly wrote: »

SD on Newstalk - threatening national lockdown when asked to explain the new restrictions

Lockdown Larry

is_that_so · 19-08-2020 05:23PM

fritzelly wrote: »

SD on Newstalk - threatening national lockdown when asked to explain the new restrictions

He is an aggressive bugger at the best of times but did he really "threaten" a lockdown?

Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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