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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • #2402
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,960 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I never said Hillary should be imprisoned. I said she should be investigated. Ivanka and Jared did not commit the same offense. Clinton dealt with classified information.



    No. They should be investigated and disciplined accordingly IMHO.

    what information do you think jared and ivanka deal with?


  • #2403
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,527 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    ELM327 wrote: »
    But that's not relevant, as, the us being a union of states, most states did not vote for Hilary. As you well know.

    That's not relevant either. The Electoral College is ultimately what matters, not how many states you win or lose. JFK and Jimmy Carter for instance won the Electoral College but won less States than their opponent.


  • #2404
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    That's not relevant either. The Electoral College is ultimately what matters, not how many states you win or lose. JFK and Jimmy Carter for instance won the Electoral College but won less States than their opponent.


    I think you missed this:

    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Trump is holding Cuomo responsible for Covid deaths in New York. He is projecting very hard here: the President who has overseen 175k deaths.

    As Governor of New York, is Cuomo not ultimately responsible for his states response to the pandemic? What specifically did Trump do or not do that led to New York being so hard hit?

    Consider some of Cuomo's moves early on in the pandemic:

    March 25th:

    https://www.propublica.org/article/fire-through-dry-grass-andrew-cuomo-saw-covid-19-threat-to-nursing-homes-then-he-risked-adding-to-it

    On March 25, 2020, Cuomo and the New York State Department of Health issued an advisory requiring the admission of patients to nursing homes who test positive for the coronavirus and barred testing prospective nursing home patients. This order was revoked on May 10 after widespread criticism from medical experts. By then, as many as 4,500 COVID-19 infected patients had been sent to nursing homes in NY state. Over 6,000 New York state nursing home residents have died of COVID as of June 2020.

    March 28th:

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/28/coronavirus-gov-andrew-cuomo-rips-possible-new-york-travel-ban/2934494001/

    New York's governor on Saturday ripped suggestions by President Donald Trump that he might institute a ban on New Yorkers' travel to other states amid the coronavirus outbreak, and Cuomo threatened to sue Rhode Island if it continues to seek out New Yorkers entering its borders.

    "I don't believe that any federal administration could be serious about physical lockdowns on parts of states across this country," Cuomo said on CNN. "I don't believe it's legal. It would be economic chaos."

    https://www.propublica.org/article/two-coasts-one-virus-how-new-york-suffered-nearly-10-times-the-number-of-deaths-as-california

    “No city in the state can quarantine itself without state approval,” Cuomo said of de Blasio’s call for a shelter-in-place order. “I have no plan whatsoever to quarantine any city.”

    Cuomo’s conviction didn’t last. On March 22, he, too, shuttered his state.


  • #2405
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,890 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Nothing has changed, I am pro choice.
    Abortion is not an easy choice but as a man my role is to shut up and let women and doctors decide the best healthcare for women.


    You don't have to be a pro life hick to be a trump supporter.

    Does Donald Trumps stated aim to appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe v Wade not bother you?
    Especially as the two current justices most likely to retire/die in the next four years (RBG and Breyer) are supportive of women's rights in this area and their replacements under a Trump presidency would almost certainly not be.

    You were a commendably strong supporter of the pro-choice side in the Irish referendum, so I'd be surprised if you'd be blasé about it now.


  • #2406
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Yes. The FBI under Comey (who was in Hillary's pocket) found that that "Clinton did not act with criminal intent". Yeah, sure.

    He announced an investigation 2 weeks before the election which doesn't seem like the behaviour of a man in her pocket. You're pushing a conspiracy with no basis, are you gonna move QAnon next?


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  • #2407
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Deleted User wrote: »
    He announced an investigation 2 weeks before the election which doesn't seem like the behaviour of a man in her pocket. You're pushing a conspiracy with no basis, are you gonna move QAnon next?


    That's true, I redact the "in her pocket" comment so. The rest stands.


  • #2408
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    That's true, I redact the "in her pocket" comment so. The rest stands.

    Again though she's been investigated, and they keep turning up nothing.


  • #2409
    ollkiller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Overheal wrote: »
    ....so I think you'll have to do somewhat better than 'look at this black woman he done hired'

    Wont quote the whole post. Bravo. I hope you sent him some burn cream...


  • #2410
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    That's true, I redact the "in her pocket" comment so. The rest stands.

    So the investigation was entirely legitimate... So it's reasonable to conclude that there's nothing to investigate.


  • #2411
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,960 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Does Donald Trumps stated aim to appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe v Wade not bother you?
    Especially as the two current justices most likely to retire/die in the next four years (RBG and Breyer) are supportive of women's rights in this area and their replacements under a Trump presidency would almost certainly not be.

    You were a commendably strong supporter of the pro-choice side in the Irish referendum, so I'd be surprised if you'd be blasé about it now.

    owning the libs is more important.


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  • #2412
    Irishman80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    Not the best decision to have Bill Clinton speaking at the Convention tonight.

    Especially now as these images break.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8639501/amp/Bill-Clinton-smiles-receiving-neck-massage-Jeffrey-Epstein-victim.html?__twitter_impression=true


  • #2413
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    Not the best decision to have Bill Clinton speaking at the Convention tonight.

    Especially now as these images break.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8639501/amp/Bill-Clinton-smiles-receiving-neck-massage-Jeffrey-Epstein-victim.html?__twitter_impression=true

    Nope. They are old images being reprinted and this is an old story. The woman in question, Chauntae Davis, who was scathing about her treatment at the hands of Epstein, said this about Bill Clinton and the massage:

    "Although the image looks bizarre, President Clinton was a perfect gentleman during the trip and I saw absolutely no foul play involving him."


  • #2414
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Trump pardons Susan B Anthony:



    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-susan-b-anthony-pardon.html


    Fantastic gesture by the president.

    I'd be impressed if he pardoned Snowden, even for the wrong reasons.

    This is kind of a nothing burger, other than the irony of Trump pardoning somebody for illegal voting. I guess given that she was a rich white racist he has no problem with her voting fraud.


  • #2415
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Good thing for his former DHS Chief, that Trump is too incompetent to suicide him:

    https://twitter.com/gma/status/1295687236856492032?s=21

    This is nothing but pure trouble for the Trump camp.


  • #2416
    Irishman80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Nope. They are old images being reprinted and this is an old story. The woman in question, Chauntae Davis, who was scathing about her treatment at the hands of Epstein, said this about Bill Clinton and the massage:

    "Although the image looks bizarre, President Clinton was a perfect gentleman during the trip and I saw absolutely no foul play involving him."

    First time I'd seen them.

    Chauntae Davis was sex-trafficked and raped by Epstein. It's really not a good look for Clinton to be flying around the world on a plane called the "Lolita" Express while getting messages from the victims of sex trafficking.


  • #2417
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    First time I'd seen them.

    Chauntae Davis was sex-trafficked and raped by Epstein. It's really not a good look for Clinton to be flying around the world on a plane called the "Lolita" Express while getting messages from the victims of sex trafficking.

    In hindsight, no.


  • #2418
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Overheal wrote: »
    This is nothing but pure trouble for the Trump camp.


    Need more info. Apparently Trump has never even met the guy.


  • #2419
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Need more info. Apparently Trump has never even met the guy.

    What info do you require? From the tweet/interview you have name, position, information, and testimony of conversations he had with the president and of policy initiatives.


  • #2420
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    First time I'd seen them.

    Chauntae Davis was sex-trafficked and raped by Epstein. It's really not a good look for Clinton to be flying around the world on a plane called the "Lolita" Express while getting messages from the victims of sex trafficking.

    even before the Epstein thing Bill would have been a pretty toxic choice anyway , now after it with a lot of evidence pointing towards bill having abused some of epsteins victims he's absolutely the last person any candidate should be wheeling out, especially with so many questionable images of Biden touching young girls inappropriately.

    and no the response to this is not "but trump" if anyone feels like challenging this post id appreciate it being done on its own merit and not just more coal on the 'blame Donald' fire


  • #2421
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    even before the Epstein thing Bill would have been a pretty toxic choice anyway , now after it with a lot of evidence pointing towards bill having abused some of epsteins victims he's absolutely the last person any candidate should be wheeling out, especially with so many questionable images of Biden touching young girls inappropriately.

    and no the response to this is not "but trump" if anyone feels like challenging this post id appreciate it being done on its own merit and not just more coal on the 'blame Donald' fire

    Would you have a link to this evidence?


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  • #2422
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Need more info. Apparently Trump has never even met the guy.

    That sounds very familiar
    https://www.businessinsider.com/people-trump-said-he-didnt-know-but-did-photos

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/10/people-donald-trump-claims-hasnt-met-despite-evidence-contrary/


  • #2423
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,960 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    even before the Epstein thing Bill would have been a pretty toxic choice anyway , now after it with a lot of evidence pointing towards bill having abused some of epsteins victims he's absolutely the last person any candidate should be wheeling out, especially with so many questionable images of Biden touching young girls inappropriately.

    and no the response to this is not "but trump" if anyone feels like challenging this post id appreciate it being done on its own merit and not just more coal on the 'blame Donald' fire

    there is no evidence of bill abusing epsteins victims. in fact, quite the opposite is true. testimony from epsteins victim was very clear that bill never touched them.


  • #2424
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    even before the Epstein thing Bill would have been a pretty toxic choice anyway , now after it with a lot of evidence pointing towards bill having abused some of epsteins victims he's absolutely the last person any candidate should be wheeling out, especially with so many questionable images of Biden touching young girls inappropriately.

    and no the response to this is not "but trump" if anyone feels like challenging this post id appreciate it being done on its own merit and not just more coal on the 'blame Donald' fire

    Bill Clinton should totally drop out of the race.


  • #2425
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,960 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    That sounds very familiar
    https://www.businessinsider.com/people-trump-said-he-didnt-know-but-did-photos

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/10/people-donald-trump-claims-hasnt-met-despite-evidence-contrary/

    it is weird that trump is an habitual liar that nobody should ever believe yet somehow his supporters still take everything he says at face value.


  • #2426
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Would you have a link to this evidence?

    this thread has a link to a photo of bill being massaged by a victim, there are photos of bill on the Lolita express, theres eye witness interviews with maintenance people who saw bill on the island. Multiple testimonies that bill had sex with victims. Its stupidly easy to find.

    Theres one photo of prince Andrew in a nightclub with a victim and everyone is full on willing to believe that he abused that girl. But I suspect yourself and many others are ignoring the multiple photos and eye witness accounts of bill because its politically advantageous to the 'anyone but Donald' side of this election.


  • #2427
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,960 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    this thread has a link to a photo of bill being massaged by a victim, there are photos of bill on the Lolita express, theres eye witness interviews with maintenance people who saw bill on the island. Multiple testimonies that bill had sex with victims. Its stupidly easy to find.

    Theres one photo of prince Andrew in a nightclub with a victim and everyone is full on willing to believe that he abused that girl. But I suspect yourself and many others are ignoring the multiple photos and eye witness accounts of bill because its politically advantageous to the 'anyone but Donald' side of this election.

    there are no such testimonies. every victims testimony that mentions bill is very clear that he didnt sleep with them. repeating a lie does not make it true. that doesn't work for trump and it doesnt work for you.


  • #2428
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    this thread has a link to a photo of bill being massaged by a victim, there are photos of bill on the Lolita express, theres eye witness interviews with maintenance people who saw bill on the island. Multiple testimonies that bill had sex with victims. Its stupidly easy to find.

    Theres one photo of prince Andrew in a nightclub with a victim and everyone is full on willing to believe that he abused that girl. But I suspect yourself and many others are ignoring the multiple photos and eye witness accounts of bill because its politically advantageous to the 'anyone but Donald' side of this election.

    If only there was some pictures of Trump and Epstein hanging out, laughing and partying together.


  • #2429
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Defending Clinton lol. Iv'e heard it all now.


  • #2430
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Bill Clinton should totally drop out of the race.

    He's gone to bat for bunker Joe so he's fair game.


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  • #2431
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    this thread has a link to a photo of bill being massaged by a victim, there are photos of bill on the Lolita express, theres eye witness interviews with maintenance people who saw bill on the island. Multiple testimonies that bill had sex with victims. Its stupidly easy to find.

    A victim who said Clinton was a complete gentleman. If the evidence is stupidly easy to find then why haven't you found it?
    Theres one photo of prince Andrew in a nightclub with a victim and everyone is full on willing to believe that he abused that girl. But I suspect yourself and many others are ignoring the multiple photos and eye witness accounts of bill because its politically advantageous to the 'anyone but Donald' side of this election.

    Ah. Prince Andrew. Still not seeing the Clinton evidence...


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