Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

John O.Groats · 18-08-2020 08:32PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Democracy? Good one.

Gardaí will soon have the power to enter private homes and evict people if numbers are over 6.

Democracy my hole.

Should have happened long ago. Hopefully legislation to enable this will be passed ASAP and it will be strictly enforced.

Wolf359f · 18-08-2020 08:33PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Democracy? Good one.

Gardaí will soon have the power to enter private homes and evict people if numbers are over 6.

Democracy my hole.

You mean Gardaí will soon have the power to enter private homes to enforce the law.
Don't know why they couldn't have a judge on call 24/7 to obtain warrants to enter homes where they fell and have evidence social distancing is not being adhered to.

Strumms · 18-08-2020 08:34PM

Schools reopening just won’t end well, sorry... it’s boneheaded.

What Username Guidelines · 18-08-2020 08:34PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Good to see the media are turning

He’s a GP telling the media, still good to see

18-08-2020 08:34PM

josip wrote: »

No, none.
Weston, Clonbulloge and Erinagh all still open.
Shocking.

Open so we can live with virus and the restriction put upon us.

It's actually disgusting. To expect people to live like this, yet people can fly into our country with abandon.

Austrailia were always good at border patrol. We are too fond of our cead mile failte.

Ll31 · 18-08-2020 08:36PM

ElTel wrote: »

Agreed. Could we perhaps trial a system that relies on a saliva sample?
For example the plant/factory health and safety officer/doctor oversees the collection of saliva samples into sterilized bottles and they get couriered to lab.

Would you trust them?

Arghus · 18-08-2020 08:37PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1295785736223035399?s=19

I can't see that legislation being passed. Might just be talked about like the bogeyman.

JP Liz V1 · 18-08-2020 08:37PM

rosiem wrote: »

It was not Catherine Murphy original poster should clarify it wasn’t a SD TD

Sorry not SD TD in the Dail but still SD member, with the government harping on of no non essential travel, staycation in Ireland and he takes off to Spain

caveat emptor · 18-08-2020 08:38PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Open so we can live with virus and the restriction put upon us.

It's actually disgusting. To expect people to live like this, yet people can fly into our country with abandon.

Austrailia were always good at border patrol. We are too fond of our cead mile failte.

You mean cead mile euro failte.

growleaves · 18-08-2020 08:39PM

Arghus wrote: »

So I dug a little deeper on this, because, when you post a link, usually the headline doesn't tell the full story. Turns out it's more fake news.

If complaints are lodged by the public in Italy prosecuters are obliged to see if there's a potential criminal case that can be brought. That doesn't mean that there will be a criminal case, just that the validity of the complaints will be investigated. That appears to happen anytime anyone makes an official complaint about anything. It's not the same as a criminal investigation, it's totally different. And in this case prosecuters have already indicated that they consider the charges "unfounded" and should be dismissed.

La Repubblica is a left-wing newspaper, should make you happy at least.

An official complaint is relevant news - it indicates there are people who are not happy with the policy, and a national newspaper carrying it indicates same.

Don't blame me for the headline, I'm not the subeditor who wrote it.

hmmm · 18-08-2020 08:40PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

You mean Gardaí will soon have the power to enter private homes to enforce the law.
Don't know why they couldn't have a judge on call 24/7 to obtain warrants to enter homes where they fell and have evidence social distancing is not being adhered to.

Yes. We're having more and more restrictions placed on everyone because of the actions of a few.

It's obvious in the neighbourhood when someone is having a house-party. Get a Guard in, count the number of people, give the owner a bill.

We need to knuckle down for a year until we get a vaccine. The people having these parties are not listening to flowery words from the Taoiseach, and clearly appeals to them to do their bit for the community are having no impact.

iamwhoiam · 18-08-2020 08:41PM

owlbethere wrote: »

It was young slappers who partied it up in Berlin in Dublin at the weekend and the governments response is to restrict the over 70s. Where is the sense in that? Why is our government still allowing tourists to come in from hotspots. We have no border controls and now they are going to hammer down on the over 70s.

Exactly . And the message sent out was “ ah its ok we will just tell the over 70’s to restrict their movements once again “

The virus is being spread by under 45’s and what did they do ? Ask the over 70’s to take the hit . I am furious over it if I am honest
Asking the vulnerable to restrict their movements while planes arrive from Texas and people can holiday in Italy .

Coillte_Bhoy · 18-08-2020 08:41PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Should have happened long ago. Hopefully legislation to enable this will be passed ASAP and it will be strictly enforced.

asap with Oireachtas on holidays? :pac:

pjohnson · 18-08-2020 08:43PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Democracy? Good one.

Gardaí will soon have the power to enter private homes and evict people if numbers are over 6.

Democracy my hole.

If they are breaching the current guidelines then they deserve the eviction. Do you get upset when you hear about garda doing their jobs in general?

Non solum non ambulabit · 18-08-2020 08:43PM

Over 65s doing well to avoid this disease since end of May

JP Liz V1 · 18-08-2020 08:43PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Exactly . And the message sent out was “ ah its ok we will just tell the over 70’s to restrict their movements once again “

The virus is being spread by under 45’s and what did they do ? Ask the over 70’s to take the hit . I am furious over it if I am honest

Hit them and or their parents if minors in their pockets with large fines

lawrencesummers · 18-08-2020 08:44PM

Arghus wrote: »

I can't see that legislation being passed. Might just be talked about like the bogeyman.

The legislation can’t be passed, or at least can’t be lawful because a referendum would be required to change the constitution.

Itssoeasy · 18-08-2020 08:48PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Is it me or does anyone else think it was a bit mental changing Taoiseach and Health Minister right smack bang in the middle of a global pandemic?

Well the caretaker government couldn't have gone on for ever so it would have had to change at some point.

I think the going into a house is a step that may be too far. What would the gardai have to see to deem it necessary to enter a premises ?

andrew1977 · 18-08-2020 08:48PM

digzy wrote: »

It’s high time off licences were shut. No booze, no house parties

There would be a tailback of traffic from newry to ballybunion if they done that .

yourdeadwright · 18-08-2020 08:48PM

owlbethere wrote: »

It was young slappers who partied it up in Berlin in Dublin at the weekend and the governments response is to restrict the over 70s. Where is the sense in that? Why is our government still allowing tourists to come in from hotspots. We have no border controls and now they are going to hammer down on the over 70s.

You realise it's not a punishment? It's to try and save there life's

pjohnson · 18-08-2020 08:48PM

Strumms wrote: »

Schools reopening just won’t end well, sorry... it’s boneheaded.

It might get lucky for two weeks in some counties but Dublin ones will do well to last a week before having to shut.

The Unbearables · 18-08-2020 08:48PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Should have happened long ago. Hopefully legislation to enable this will be passed ASAP and it will be strictly enforced.

The gardai need to be given every power to enforce it if required. We need to beat this virus off the streets or else our economy will be destroyed and our kids will never get back to school.

US2 · 18-08-2020 08:49PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Over 65s doing well to avoid this disease since end of May

Every age group is doing well at avoid it since April/May ?

Eod100 · 18-08-2020 08:49PM

Not sure if this was posted already but good piece here with overview of measures from Fergal Bowers here:

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2020/0818/1159930-analysis-fergal-bowers/

18-08-2020 08:49PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Exactly . And the message sent out was “ ah its ok we will just tell the over 70’s to restrict their movements once again “

The virus is being spread by under 45’s and what did they do ? Ask the over 70’s to take the hit . I am furious over it if I am honest
Asking the vulnerable to restrict their movements while planes arrive from Texas and people can holiday in Italy .

The message is wrong. The policy is wrong. Airports/ports are the source of this. Our testing and tracing is average and quarantining/border control is bloody awful.

normanoffside · 18-08-2020 08:49PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Over 65s doing well to avoid this disease since end of May

Someone should have thought about protecting nursing homes before the end of April.

Leftwaffe · 18-08-2020 08:49PM

The Unbearables wrote: »

The gardai need to be given every power to enforce it if required. We need to beat this virus off the streets or else our economy will be destroyed and our kids will never get back to school.

I have some bad news for you.

caveat emptor · 18-08-2020 08:50PM

Arghus wrote: »

So I dug a little deeper on this, because, when you post a link, usually the headline doesn't tell the full story. Turns out it's more fake news.

If complaints are lodged by the public in Italy prosecuters are obliged to see if there's a potential criminal case that can be brought. That doesn't mean that there will be a criminal case, just that the validity of the complaints will be investigated. That appears to happen anytime anyone makes an official complaint about anything. It's not the same as a criminal investigation, it's totally different. And in this case prosecuters have already indicated that they consider the charges "unfounded" and should be dismissed.

Yeah it was probably someone from Ryanair trying to fvck up another country. The lockdown in italy was generally popular with high levels of compliance after the carnage in BERGAMO.

https://twitter.com/simoncalder/status/1291397680997060609?s=21

Itssoeasy · 18-08-2020 08:52PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

The legislation can’t be passed, or at least can’t be lawful because a referendum would be required to change the constitution.

And the dail isn't back for four weeks I think so this wouldn't be enforceable for four weeks at least. I have to say some of the comments from the Taoiseach and the acting CMO weren't fair. MM said that people are acting as if the virus isn't here or words to that effect which I'm sorry is not what I'm seeing in cork city. There's more masks around and people are actively moving out of people's way to socially distant.

Arghus · 18-08-2020 08:54PM

growleaves wrote: »

La Repubblica is a left-wing newspaper, should make you happy at least.

An official complaint is relevant news - it indicates there are people who are not happy with the policy, and a national newspaper carrying it indicates same.

Don't blame me for the headline, I'm not the subeditor who wrote it.

You'd no problem posting it, without properly checking it.

Par for the course.

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