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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #6062
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    A cluster in the midlands and they lockdown 3 counties. There’s a pretty big cluster in Texas and I know of people who arrived on a flight from there last week.

    Texas is a cluster fcuk.


  • #6063
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,858 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    trixi001 wrote: »
    The schools are only one element of what is important - no point in having schools open if people can't feed their children (Parents could be publicans, taxi drivers etc), or if every teacher is off with depression.

    Mental health again :rolleyes:

    Sport is good for people - we have spent years telling people to exercise more - and now we are trying to restrict exercise

    You don’t need a gym or a bike to exercise..

    Same as pubs being able to serve food without a restaurant licence - has food hygiene gone out the window - food poisoning doesn't matter - covid is the only illness that's important!

    Food poisoning kills not many, covid IS killing quite a few.

    The problem with the response to covid - is that it isn't looking at all elements of health, stopping cancer screenings, limiting access to GP's, no "routine" surgeries, and the massive impact on mental health - what is the long term implications of these?

    No limit to GP access, if you NEED a doctor you will have access to one.

    The economy has crashed - what is the long term implication of this? There is a very clear link between poverty and poor health.

    Economy will recover, some covid patients won’t.

    Schools are very important - but not isolation - what is the point in children getting a good education if there is nothing for them when they finish school?

    When they finish school, there is life, life goes on, life doesn’t go on for everyone who gets covid.

    I think there needs to be a body set up to analyse all the relevant information (not just the health side of it), and come up with a bespoke response, and stop looking at things in isolation.

    Every announcement about restrictions should come with an announcement about what new financial support is available, to help those affected by restriction, not just a generic comment, saying support may be available and then announced later. (KOL restrictions came into effect on the 8th, support measures announced 14th), pubs have been closed for 186 days, 50 days since food pubs opened, and no additional support offered for the pubs.
    Making joint up announcements would help mental health too!

    Pubspubs pubs, more to life then pubs !u

    Reply in bold....


  • #6064
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    The reasons for the increases in cases are directly in the control of Govt and were known risks.

    Dept of Health and HSE - testing Contact tracing was prematurely scaled back.

    HSE and Dept of Housing - Roma and traveller accommodation

    HSE and Dept of Justice - Direct Provision

    HSE, HSA and D/ Agriculture - Meat/food processing.

    NPHET - messaging

    Govt - all of the above.

    I agree with a more coherent policy to enable safe travel with targeted and random testing but the focus on this has been a distraction.

    Maybe someone can enlighten me but I have a feeling all contact tracing is here is a call to ask who have been your contacts in the last 48 hours. Every effort should be made to trace the case back to source, to join up the outbreaks. I don’t believe this happens.


  • #6065
    calgary bound
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭calgary bound


    The initial of the TD who traveled on holiday to Spain in July are BC!!


  • #6066
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »
    So they'll still be able to visit their Nana?

    Their Nana could be in their mid 40's lol.


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  • #6067
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    No watching a local sporting event but travel in and out of any country you want, a Kildare TD from SD had a two week holiday in Spain

    Who is that? Actually scratch that. There is only 1 SD TD in Kildare, a high profile one too. If this is true it`s a sham in the current climate.


  • #6068
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    The reasons for the increases in cases are directly in the control of Govt and were known risks.

    Dept of Health and HSE - testing Contact tracing was prematurely scaled back.

    HSE and Dept of Housing - Roma and traveller accommodation

    HSE and Dept of Justice - Direct Provision

    HSE, HSA and D/ Agriculture - Meat/food processing.

    NPHET - messaging

    Govt - all of the above.

    Elect clowns

    Get a circus


  • #6069
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    No watching a local sporting event but travel in and out of any country you want, a Kildare TD from SD had a two week holiday in Spain[/QUOTE]

    Who is that?

    Is it anyone’s business?


  • #6070
    Postgrad10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    What’s the R(0) ?


  • #6071
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    owlbethere wrote: »
    It was young slappers who partied it up in Berlin in Dublin at the weekend and the governments response is to restrict the over 70s. Where is the sense in that? Why is our government still allowing tourists to come in from hotspots. We have no border controls and now they are going to hammer down on the over 70s.

    Border control is why our cases have went from 7 a day to now.

    The government are treating us like fools.

    We did the hard work with severe lockdown.

    Were was the reward for that?

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.rte.ie/amp/1159804/&ved=2ahUKEwjV2uLvpKXrAhXhZxUIHbQ-DZAQ0PADegQIDBAP&usg=AOvVaw3wghzgsd8JUoC8DvpnSn7p&ampcf=1

    People in Wuhan were rewarded for there lockdown.

    And to think I used to feel sorry for people in Wuhan in January. The innocence...


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  • #6072
    rosiem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    John O.Groats wrote: »

    Is it anyone’s business?

    I don’t think it’s true no Kildare TD has said this ??


  • #6073
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Is it me or does anyone else think it was a bit mental changing Taoiseach and Health Minister right smack bang in the middle of a global pandemic?


  • #6074
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Who is that?
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/social-democrats-councillor-hugely-regrets-going-on-holiday-to-spain-for-two-weeks-39459303.html


  • #6075
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Is it me or does anyone else think it was a bit mental changing Taoiseach and Health Minister right smack bang in the middle of a global pandemic?

    Yip nuts


  • #6076
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Is it me or does anyone else think it was a bit mental changing Taoiseach and Health Minister right smack bang in the middle of a global pandemic?

    History will not look kindly on it...


  • #6077
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Postgrad10 wrote: »
    What’s the R(0) ?

    Looking for more recent number but on the 7th it was about 1.8

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0806/1157731-covid-figures/


  • #6078
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,799 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Again no flight bans from hotspots ?

    No, none.
    Weston, Clonbulloge and Erinagh all still open.
    Shocking.


  • #6079
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Is it me or does anyone else think it was a bit mental changing Taoiseach and Health Minister right smack bang in the middle of a global pandemic?

    That's democracy chicken.


  • #6080
    TheRiverman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    digzy wrote: »
    It’s high time off licences were shut. No booze, no house parties

    I think there would be uproar if that happened. There are probably thousands of people who enjoy a few drinks at home without it being a party..
    Unfortunately a minority of idiots just can't behave themselves.


  • #6081
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Looking for more recent number but on the 7th it was about 1.8

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0806/1157731-covid-figures/

    1.6


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  • #6082
    rosiem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/social-democrats-councillor-hugely-regrets-going-on-holiday-to-spain-for-two-weeks-39459303.html

    No TD mentioned in link as per original comment just a local councillor


  • #6083
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    smelly sock wrote: »
    That's democracy chicken.
    Democracy? Good one.

    Gardaí will soon have the power to enter private homes and evict people if numbers are over 6.

    Democracy my hole.


  • #6084
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    1.6

    Where did you get that


  • #6085
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,858 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I get nervous when I think where we’d be with Leo in charge, I’m not the greatest Martin fan, but fûck me... if we had to go through this with Leo and the rest of the FG corporate rent boys solely in charge the country might be in a heap...


  • #6086
    rosiem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Who is that? Actually scratch that. There is only 1 SD TD in Kildare, a high profile one too. If this is true it`s a sham in the current climate.

    It was not Catherine Murphy original poster should clarify it wasn’t a SD TD


  • #6087
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I wonder if we'll hear leaks about FG's view.
    I know FF are gonna get alot of stick with this new restrictions. And I know the cabinet all have to agree with policy, collective cabinet etc... But surely FG will have to distance themselves from this **** show!


  • #6088
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    owlbethere wrote: »
    It was young slappers who partied it up in Berlin in Dublin at the weekend and the governments response is to restrict the over 70s. Where is the sense in that? Why is our government still allowing tourists to come in from hotspots. We have no border controls and now they are going to hammer down on the over 70s.

    They are clearly dividing people to rule them.
    If all the inter generational bickering continues two things will happen.

    1: We will be in the exact same point this time next year.
    2: Business interests contrary to public health will be happy.

    At a certain point we need to realise that our Government is trying to please all of the people and ending up pissing everyone off.

    Except the businesses that are dependent on open borders.

    MM is a muppet and is playing into a trap laid by Leo. The fact he is playing politics at a time like this is disgusting. MM has picked the hill he is going to die in on in the shape of schools reopening. After all he is a teacher and cares about their development. His position however is untenable. You can’t simultaneously try to please vested interests and get schools open.

    They’ll open, then they’ll close and there will be an election.
    At which point Leo and Simon who threw a jerry wrench in the decision making process will ride in on their white horses and save us from calamity by standing up to big business and implementing zero covid.

    Leo is playing chess , MM is playing checkers.
    If anything like above transpires I’ll never vote for a single FG politician in my life again. MM doesn’t have a hope.


  • #6089
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1295785736223035399?s=19


  • #6090
    theballz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    It just feels like there is no end in sight for this :(


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  • #6091
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    growleaves wrote: »
    Italy's PM is now officially under investigation for enforcing a nationwide lockdown in Italy against the advice of Italy's scientific committee

    So I dug a little deeper on this, because, when you post a link, usually the headline doesn't tell the full story. Turns out it's more fake news.

    If complaints are lodged by the public in Italy prosecuters are obliged to see if there's a potential criminal case that can be brought. That doesn't mean that there will be a criminal case, just that the validity of the complaints will be investigated. That appears to happen anytime anyone makes an official complaint about anything. It's not the same as a criminal investigation, it's totally different. And in this case prosecuters have already indicated that they consider the charges "unfounded" and should be dismissed.


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