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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #5972
    MY BAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MY BAD


    I'm a bit confused. So only gatherings of 15 outdoor but 15 vs 15 GAA players plus subs and coaches is okay? Those this mean 50 people can still gather indoors for a mass, wedding, and restaurant? It's not very clear or making sense?


  • #5973
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    So limit people socialising in homes/gardens and at sporting events and instead allow them to socialise in a pub. I dunno, seems outdoors in Ireland covid is more infections than the rest of the world.
    Pubs as they are regulated are a much more controlled environment. It's the limiting of contacts they want, currently at six for cases I believe.


  • #5974
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,284 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How can schools still reopen if the young are getting it and spreading with no symptoms?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5975
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »
    It all had a bad effect on my mother.

    I did what I could with walks and drives but no grandchildren in the house and no visits to or from her sisters. And no Mass.

    Is it is starting all over again now?

    If people follow the rules, the factories get checks and there's no outbreaks from schools going back then it might be okay. Though it's slim to none all this happening


  • #5976
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    I’d say all the government advisors are getting ripped a new one, that was a shambles


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  • #5977
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    The_Brood wrote: »
    If you're not angry yet, get angry.

    Russia has the vaccine, and instead of playing hide and seek with restrictions and ruining prople's lives, we should be lining up to get it and end this quarantine nightmare.

    Only public anger will force them to act.

    I would take it soon to stop this.

    The government message is too unclear to be sustainable.

    Zero covid policy is clear. We get th numbers down. We quarantine people coming in. We revert to normality except people for the most part stay in Ireland until a vaccine. You could sell that to people. Not this mishmash of contradictions. Its not policy but a knee jerk reaction to increases.


  • #5978
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MY BAD wrote: »
    I'm a bit confused. So only gatherings of 15 outdoor but 15 vs 15 GAA players plus subs and coaches is okay? Those this mean 50 people can still gather indoors for a mass, wedding, and restaurant? It's not very clear or making sense?
    The wedding thing is most likely on account of the notice required and they can't just cancel every wedding from a press conference. MM did say mention that notice.


  • #5979
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    TheRiverman wrote: »
    Kildare,Meat plants and Glanbia ?
    Dublin socialising ?
    Tipperary and Limerick, Walsh Mushrooms ?

    Dublin has alot of food production too. Isn't Keelings based there?


  • #5980
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Kildare is bollixed


  • #5981
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The wedding thing is most likely on account of the notice required and they can't just cancel every wedding from a press conference. MM did say mention that notice.

    They did precisely that in March


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  • #5982
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭celt262


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The wedding thing is most likely on account of the notice required and they can't just cancel every wedding from a press conference. MM did say mention that notice.

    Didnt stop them previously.


  • #5983
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    If people follow the rules, the factories get checks and there's no outbreaks from schools going back then it might be okay. Though it's slim to none all this happening
    It is still all about the schools and the do want to open them.


  • #5984
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I would take it soon to stop this.

    The government message is too unclear to be sustainable.

    Zero covid policy is clear. We get th numbers down. We quarantine people coming in. We revert to normality except people for the most part stay in Ireland until a vaccine. You could sell that to people. Not this mishmash of contradictions. Its not policy but a knee jerk reaction to increases.

    For how long?


  • #5985
    digzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    It’s high time off licences were shut. No booze, no house parties


  • #5986
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    If I'm out for a walk with the dog and see a football match in the local park can I stand there and watch or will I be asked to keep walking? And who will police that?


  • #5987
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,134 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What is important is what makes logical sense. And stopping outdoor sports events from having a tiny number of spectators in a safe environment makes absolutely no sense. Especially in the light of 50 allowed to attend indoor weddings. You only need 5 people for a wedding

    How many weddings are you likely to attend this year? How many sporting fixtures? I'll bet the latter if much larger than the former.

    People have not been distancing at sports events. I've seen it myself. Given that this is a relatively inconsequential decision, it was bound to happen. All the nice things will be sacrificed if it means the schools can open.

    While the restrictions may seem contradictory, the restrictions are not meant to be compared to one another. The goal is to reduce the overall number of gatherings taking place. A €9 meal doesn't make you immune to covid but having that restriction in place reduces the overall number of gatherings taking place in the country.

    I think this nuance has been completely lost in the messaging tbf.


  • #5988
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Am I right in reading that pubs trading with food have been extended to half 11?
    Maybe our pleas have been heard


  • #5989
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Stheno wrote: »
    They did precisely that in March
    Yeah but they shut everything down then and this is not March. Martin did say they were trying to get a balance with this announcement and penalising hotels,/pubs was not part of the plan.


  • #5990
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    If I'm out for a walk with the dog and see a football match in the local park can I stand there and watch or will I be asked to keep walking? And who will police that?

    Walk by the match with your eyes closed I presume.


  • #5991
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    High in Tipp and Limerick, are cities out for lockdown like Dublin and Limerick?

    We need control and a clear message about travel, testing at airports, borders and ports etc.,

    Travel isn’t a problem but anyway best have someone to blame them bloody foreigners.


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  • #5992
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It is still all about the schools and the do want to open them.

    I agree theyre hellbent on doing it. If they open then close them again there'll be riots


  • #5993
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Where's ACE, I need a breakdown.

    At a match, and I'm having a breakdown if you want to join me :D


  • #5994
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    Mm clearly said they didn't take the NEPHET advice for weddings.. Dr Rónan clearly stated after it that they said 6 indoors.. No unity there between them. Totally over ruled.


  • #5995
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,232 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    If I'm out for a walk with the dog and see a football match in the local park can I stand there and watch or will I be asked to keep walking? And who will police that?

    6 months imprisonment would be too good for you.


  • #5996
    Psychiatric Patrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Psychiatric Patrick


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    High in Tipp and Limerick, are cities out for lockdown like Dublin and Limerick?

    We need control and a clear message about travel, testing at airports, borders and ports etc.,

    I heard there was a party at a house near the university in Limerick and many people there got infected.


  • #5997
    Poorside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    digzy wrote: »
    It’s high time off licences were shut. No booze, no house parties


    Do you want to close supermarkets as well?


  • #5998
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,134 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    If I'm out for a walk with the dog and see a football match in the local park can I stand there and watch or will I be asked to keep walking? And who will police that?

    This is a problem with attitude and it's one of the reasons why this has happened. If there is no one to police it or no punishment people won't follow the simple instructions. You move on yourself is the answer.

    That's what has led us to this point.


  • #5999
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I agree theyre hellbent on doing it. If they open then close them again there'll be riots

    I still haven't bought uniforms, tracksuits or books. Im getting constant emails from the school saying opening is going ahead. Ill see next week


  • #6000
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    digzy wrote: »
    It’s high time off licences were shut. No booze, no house parties

    They’ll just go up north, or take coke


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  • #6001
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Leo has already leaked it to the media that there were "differences" between himself and MM at the cabinet meeting today. Handily enough he's neglected to mention what those differences were.

    "The most skilful, the most devious, and the most cunning of them all." springs to mind.


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