Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

iguana · 17-08-2020 07:15PM

mloc123 wrote: »

That is up to 29 cases now

The 29 is the first 11 plus the 18 confirmed yesterday.

Boggles · 17-08-2020 07:16PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Real community transmission? speculation on your part.

"Real Number Increase"

As in it was 20% a month ago when we reported 10 instances.

It is 20% now on 80 instances.

People like to fudge it by saying community transmission is stable or below the average.

Real Numbers

20% of 10 = 2
20% of 80 = 16.

17-08-2020 07:17PM

Would have thought the app would reduce the number of 'community transmission' cases? Or would the anonymity of it actually cause them to increase?

Onesea · 17-08-2020 07:17PM

Are hospitals a cross Europe filling up with sick people again?

I see x2 tui vessels have been to Stockholm today
MSc have granndiosa on a short cruise around Italy. That must make many people blood boil.

Arghus · 17-08-2020 07:19PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

How do people know they're holding back numbers? I'm not being contrary, just genuinely curious what other source people are getting higher numbers from. Thread can be hard to follow, sorry.

It's a conspiracy theory that's become widely accepted in the thread. Along the lines of NPHET are massaging the numbers to suit themselves depending on what outcome they want. Apparently there's some reason why they want to do this. It's all part of some deliberate nefarious plan, because they are big meanies who hate us. As opposed to just being plan old quirks in how these things are reported.

Goldengirl · 17-08-2020 07:19PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Jesus Christ would you ever give over, please!

Jesus Christ! Would you ever contribute to the discussion rather than butting your fxxxin nose in when the grown ups are
talking?
That's what you sound like, always aggro and never anything to contribute.
At least he contributes.

RoryMac · 17-08-2020 07:20PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

How do people know they're holding back numbers? I'm not being contrary, just genuinely curious what other source people are getting higher numbers from. Thread can be hard to follow, sorry.

My understanding of it is that the HSE dashboard shows the number of positive tests in one day but these don't match the number of cases announced daily. They tend to lag behind for a few days before all being included together leading to a big number over 1 or 2 days. Looks like it's been happening for weeks but nobody in the media is questioning it

Fr_Dougal · 17-08-2020 07:20PM

Time to close Tipperary.

Tork · 17-08-2020 07:20PM

Stheno wrote: »

I wasn't even thinking of foreign travel tbh, just parties and meeting up in big groups

I have a feeling most of those cases are going to be from people who stayed here, rather than travelled. Ironically, the people who travelled probably were less likely to be exposed to Covid-19 unless they lost the run of themselves abroad. They're more likely to be from the house party, Tinder, hanging out in groups demographic.

is_that_so · 17-08-2020 07:21PM

Boggles wrote: »

"Real Number Increase"

As in it was 20% a month ago when we reported 10 instances.

It is 20% now on 80 instances.

People like to fudge it by saying community transmission is stable or below the average.

Real Numbers

20% of 10 = 2
20% of 80 = 16.

Philip Nolan is the one who says it's low as a source of cases. Most current cases are cluster related.

upupup · 17-08-2020 07:21PM

iguana wrote: »

Because there were 18 cases confirmed in Golden, Tipperary yesterday that weren’t included in yesterday’s nor today’s figures. I had presumed they were verified too late yesterday so would be included in tonight’s figures but they still haven’t been added to our total.

There is also a case in cahir meat factory that was not added and this will probably lead to more testing and cases
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40033649.html

Storm 10 · 17-08-2020 07:22PM

Any county by county figures

Non solum non ambulabit · 17-08-2020 07:23PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

I never said that.
Difference between " down playing" and " misleading".

Fair enough but as I wasn't replying to you I am at a loss as to why you are replying to me?

Goldengirl · 17-08-2020 07:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Holding back tipp I’d say until they figure will they need extra restrictions

I'd say Mattie has had some words to them about it!

The Unbearables · 17-08-2020 07:25PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

How do people know they're holding back numbers? I'm not being contrary, just genuinely curious what other source people are getting higher numbers from. Thread can be hard to follow, sorry.

Half the people on this thread think there is some sort of gubbberment conspiracy going on. Wouldn’t be looking for info here tbh...

lucernarian · 17-08-2020 07:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fantastic quote by Rob O'Hanrahan on Joe.ie.

https://www.joe.ie/politics/have-you-seen-these-people-701968

Who is he to say this is isolated? I'm seeing routine guidelines being ignored wholesale in "restaurants" right across Dublin, at least after 10pm in whatever outside areas or beer gardens you can see from the street. Plenty of compliant ones too, don't get me wrong.

It's taken something ludicrous to bring attention to the fact that parties, in or out of "restaurants" are running rampant at the moment and people don't give nearly as much of a toss now compared to 2 months ago.

Stheno · 17-08-2020 07:26PM

Tork wrote: »

I have a feeling most of those cases are going to be from people who stayed here, rather than travelled. Ironically, the people who travelled probably were less likely to be exposed to Covid-19 unless they lost the run of themselves abroad. They're more likely to be from the house party, Tinder, hanging out in groups demographic.

Now you mention that I do know one group who recently managed to travel to four countries not on the green list for their two week holiday recently :rolleyes:

KrustyUCC · 17-08-2020 07:27PM

Storm 10 wrote: »

Any county by county figures

No full figures but we do know "
26 in Kildare, 13 in Dublin and the rest of the 17 cases are in Donegal, Galway, Kerry, Laois, Longford, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Westmeath and Wicklow"

SimonTemplar · 17-08-2020 07:31PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Any change you could explain the neuropsychology behind the linguistic programming; or offer corrections to the flawed mathematical models Prof. Nolan is using?

Boggles · 17-08-2020 07:31PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Philip Nolan is the one who says it's low as a source of cases. Most current cases are cluster related.

100% correct.

My post clearly backed that up. But in real terms the actual numbers have gone up.

There has been at least an 8 fold increase.

Also they are not retrospectively telling us which of the other 100 odd cases the other night turned out to be of sources unknown for instance.

stephenjmcd · 17-08-2020 07:32PM

The Unbearables wrote: »

Half the people on this thread think there is some sort of gubbberment conspiracy going on. Wouldn’t be looking for info here tbh...

What are you on about?

259 postive swabs in last 48hrs. 122 cases announced

137 outstanding / unaccounted for in announced cases. Bit of a backlog there for whatever reason.

Its not conspiracy but for some reason not all new cases have been reported yet for the last 48hrs. There's no getting around that.

17-08-2020 07:33PM

lucernarian wrote: »

Who is he to say this is isolated? I'm seeing routine guidelines being ignored wholesale in "restaurants" right across Dublin, at least after 10pm in whatever outside areas or beer gardens you can see from the street. Plenty of compliant ones too, don't get me wrong.

It's taken something ludicrous to bring attention to the fact that parties, in or out of "restaurants" are running rampant at the moment and people don't give nearly as much of a toss now compared to 2 months ago.

How many clusters associated with bars or restaurants?

Sweet.Science · 17-08-2020 07:33PM

Obviously the strain is very weak now . Time to move on with our lives and get back to normal

Boggles · 17-08-2020 07:34PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Wasn't aimed so much at you, I think you're overreacting but at least you're coming from a somewhat logical place...

Fair enough.

But I think the figures are definitely there or there about for tomorrow.

Micky 32 · 17-08-2020 07:34PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Jesus Christ! Would you ever contribute to the discussion rather than butting your fxxxin nose in when the grown ups are
talking?
That's what you sound like, always aggro and never anything to contribute.
At least he contributes.

Everytime i log on i see a post from you ranting on about another poster because his/her opinion doesn’t agree with yours ffs. You hate any post that has any positivity in it because it “ pisses you off” Grow up.

Grown ups talking? You mean constantly attacking ACE, grown up talking alright.

Boggles · 17-08-2020 07:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How many clusters associated with bars or restaurants?

1 in Clare this week I think.

Linked to the Cratloe cases.

robbiezero · 17-08-2020 07:36PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Everyone's so on edge in this thread. So much sniping going on. Pretty much a reflection of the outside world.

Don't think we will every be able to get ourselves in sustained good shape to adequately manage the virus with such divisions.

The outside world I am seeing is nothing like this thread.
People in great form and getting on with it, going to games, drinking pints, going on holidays enjoying company etc.
I really pity anyone whose reality bears any resemblance to this thread.

Goldengirl · 17-08-2020 07:38PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Everytime i log on i see a post from you ranting on about another poster because his/her opinion doesn’t agree with yours ffs. You hate any post that has any positivity in it. Grow up.

Untrue.
I don't normally have any issue on this thread, unless..

Just you press the ignore button then, as I am for you.
Please do not address me again.

Micky 32 · 17-08-2020 07:39PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Just you press the ignore button then, as I am for you.
Please do not address me again.

Thank you for the suggestion, done!

hynesie08 · 17-08-2020 07:42PM

Boggles wrote: »

Fair enough.

But I think the figures are definitely there or there about for tomorrow.

There's a guaranteed mushroom bump this week, but I don't think it'll top the 200 cluster...

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