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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Anyone know if these courses will actually go onsite at any point in the next year? Hard to guess i'm sure, but the NCI course is remote for the first semester and classroom once it's safe/practical to do so. I'm 90 mins away, so i'd rather not pick somewhere that i'd have to travel to twice a week.
    NCI wrote:
    In order to comply with current government health guidelines and for ongoing safety of our students. The Postgraduate Diploma in Cyber Security will be online initially with a targeted traditional classroom delivery when it is safe & practical to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Officer Giggles


    Could you do one of these every year?

    I think it's 3 courses in 5 years, might even be 4 courses but I definitely remember reading you had to take a break at some stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mp3ireland2


    This is it wrote: »
    Mine moved from part time class based to online for the first semester. I wanted to physically attend, I enjoy it much more and feel I soak up more information when I'm in front of a lecturer. Obviously I understand the circumstances, it is what it is :)

    Yeah pros and cons to both, certinaly easier to be disciplined when attending if you've to be there.
    My issue was that I'm moving back to Ireland and not sure where i'll be based when I manage to get a job so was really looking for distance learning which I mangaged to get, no travel time after work etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Logic


    If you accept a course is there a possibility of any other courses you applied for offering you one or is it the case of what you accept is it and try something new next time round?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭py


    If you accept a course is there a possibility of any other courses you applied for offering you one or is it the case of what you accept is it and try something new next time round?

    What you accept is it. It automatically removes you from all other processes.

    This has been a very informative thread and will help a lot of people when this opens up again next year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭bleuhh


    Hi everyone. I’ve just been offered a place in the NCI Data Analytics Hdip. I did my degree in Maynooth so I am thinking of possibly applying there too and if I don’t get an offer within the 5 days I’ll accept NCI. I feel like I’ve read a few bad posts on here about the NCI one hence my reluctance to accept straight away

    Can anyone offer some positive feedback? Also I’m assuming that most of it will be online now or are NCI students back in the actual college this year and not doing online lectures?

    Cheers!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Toashty91


    py wrote: »
    What you accept is it. It automatically removes you from all other processes.

    This has been a very informative thread and will help a lot of people when this opens up again next year.


    No I don't think that's right. If you apply to multiple courses in multiple colleges and you accept an offer from one, the other colleges don't know that, so they will still send you an offer. As far as i'm aware the last thing they would do is make people commit to one course, it's in their best interest to get you into the right course and free up a space that could go to someone more suited.

    Maybe i'm wrong but I don't think it would be logical to let you apply for loads of different courses of different levels when they know that different course providers have different timelines for decision making.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭onrail


    I'm thinking of applying for either of the following:

    HDip in Data Analytics

    HDip in Software Development

    For someone who has a numerate (engineering) but non-programming background I'd appreciate any feedback or personal experiences in terms of difficulty or employability?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Officer Giggles


    Toashty91 wrote: »
    No I don't think that's right. If you apply to multiple courses in multiple colleges and you accept an offer from one, the other colleges don't know that, so they will still send you an offer. As far as i'm aware the last thing they would do is make people commit to one course, it's in their best interest to get you into the right course and free up a space that could go to someone more suited.

    Maybe i'm wrong but I don't think it would be logical to let you apply for loads of different courses of different levels when they know that different course providers have different timelines for decision making.....

    Whatever you may feel about the pros and cons of how they operate, the acceptance of one course automatically cancels your application for any other course you may have applied for. It's on the springboard website and it is what happened to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    onrail wrote: »
    I'm thinking of applying for either of the following:

    HDip in Data Analytics

    HDip in Software Development

    For someone who has a numerate (engineering) but non-programming background I'd appreciate any feedback or personal experiences in terms of difficulty or employability?

    Don’t know your exact circumstances but with the level of math and programming you’ve likely been exposed to on an engineering degree wouldn’t their level 9 (postgrad dip) be a better fit for you than their level 8 hdip?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭onrail


    tritium wrote: »
    Don’t know your exact circumstances but with the level of math and programming you’ve likely been exposed to on an engineering degree wouldn’t their level 9 (postgrad dip) be a better fit for you than their level 8 hdip?

    I guess you’re referring to a Elec/Software engineering degree? Civil engineering grad nearly a decade ago! Plenty of advanced maths and stats involved but only maybe a couple of modules of basic programming early on. My concern that all would be quite rusty a decade on!

    If I was to take a chance on a level 9, would it offer significant benefits in terms of employment prospects?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    onrail wrote: »
    I guess you’re referring to a Elec/Software engineering degree? Civil engineering grad nearly a decade ago! Plenty of advanced maths and stats involved but only maybe a couple of modules of basic programming early on. My concern that all would be quite rusty a decade on!

    If I was to take a chance on a level 9, would it offer significant benefits in terms of employment prospects?

    I’d imagine so given it’s at (effectively) masters vs honours degree level. I went for it on that basis this year. They do seem to focus on how much coding experience you have when assessing though (unsurprisingly). There’s an online sample class available in early September (I think -details are on the NCI website And I’ll try to dig them up later) that might give you a steer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 delishdoughnut


    I got an email from NUIG to say they should be in contact later in the week, I know there were others waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭touts


    I got an email from NUIG to say they should be in contact later in the week, I know there were others waiting.

    Has anyone heard anything from UCC. Emailed them and just got an out of office. No answer on the phone either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Errashareesh


    Got my offer from UCC today. Keep trying them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭texanman


    I'm sure UCC will reply to your email. I know they are working out of office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭texanman


    I'm sure you will love UCC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭touts


    Got my offer from UCC today. Keep trying them!

    Ok they are probably busy today. If I don't hear by the end of the day I'll probably have my answer anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭djan


    Was anybody able to find out the timetable or the evenings in which lectures will take place for the Graduate Certificate Business coursed offered by DCU?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    I'm coming from a GIS background and they (NCI) were pretty forceful trying to ascertain my level of programming for the PGDip in Data Analytics. My programming skills are minimal and based on mapbasic and python.

    I ended up withdrawing that application and continuing with just the HDip with them.

    As mentioned before the lack of clarity in dealing with anything to do with the NCI was pretty frustrating.

    In the end I'm gonna do the HDip in Data analytics in Maynooth.

    The difference here is that they are straight up about assuming zero knowledge in java from day one. And rather than chip away at it over the course of the programme, they are running a solid 3 week course of java before starting on anything else.

    I'm pretty glad of this as I'm one for learning really well in immersive environments. I can't stand doing things bit by bit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    touts wrote: »
    Ok they are probably busy today. If I don't hear by the end of the day I'll probably have my answer anyway.

    There's no answer that involves "no answer".

    You will get a message/notification of either being successful or unsuccessful. It's not a case of no news is bad news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭onrail


    I'm coming from a GIS background and they were pretty forceful trying to ascertain my level of programming for the PGDip in Data Analytics. My programming skills are minimal and based on mapbasic and python.

    I ended up withdrawing that application and continuing with just the HDip with them.

    As mentioned before the lack of clarity in dealing with anything to do with the NCI was pretty frustrating.

    In the end I'm gonna do the HDip in Data analytics in Maynooth.

    The difference here is that they are straight up about assuming zero knowledge in java from day one. And rather than chip away at it over the course of the programme, they are running a solid 3 week course of java before starting on anything else.

    I'm pretty glad of this as I'm one for learning really well in immersive environments. I can't stand doing things bit by bit.

    Also weighing up the Data Analytics in Maynooth Vs NUI.

    Any idea of the timetable specifics for the Maynooth course? I see that 15-30 hours per week is mentioned, but is this likely to be during evenings/Weekends?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Anyone know the level of programming etc that would be expected for a Masters in Data Science


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭SATSUMA


    I got an email from NUIG to say they should be in contact later in the week, I know there were others waiting.

    Thanks, did you chase them or was it a random email?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I accepted the Post Grad in Cyber Security in Letterkenny yesterday. It's entirely online based, and i got some more info from the Springboard contact, so looking forward to starting that soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭py


    Toashty91 wrote: »
    No I don't think that's right. If you apply to multiple courses in multiple colleges and you accept an offer from one, the other colleges don't know that, so they will still send you an offer. As far as i'm aware the last thing they would do is make people commit to one course, it's in their best interest to get you into the right course and free up a space that could go to someone more suited.

    Maybe i'm wrong but I don't think it would be logical to let you apply for loads of different courses of different levels when they know that different course providers have different timelines for decision making.....

    Here's the status of my Springboard applications right now. The first course, I was not offered prior to accepting the course which is down as "Accepted". The "UserCancelled" status is what occurred to the other outstanding applications on my profile, regardless of their status, when I clicked accept on the course I wanted. I'm assuming this withdraws my applications on the backend and thus notifies the other courses I have withdrawn. Given it is the course administrators which can update the status of your application, I've no reason to believe this is incorrect.

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  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tolow wrote: »
    Tbh I don't think many of these courses being ran by springboard are going to get you into any jobs that aren't entry level............

    I know a few folk with a primary degree and a few years experience who got their level 9 via springboard and got more senior gigs afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭mel123


    Just wondering, are people getting offers before the closing date or do they all go out after the closing date?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Kamu


    mel123 wrote: »
    Just wondering, are people getting offers before the closing date or do they all go out after the closing date?

    I applied at the start of July for TUD Tallaght, was accepted within a week, and I accepted one week after that on the 17th of July, 6 weeks before the closing date of applications.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Toashty91


    py wrote: »
    Here's the status of my Springboard applications right now. The first course, I was not offered prior to accepting the course which is down as "Accepted". The "UserCancelled" status is what occurred to the other outstanding applications on my profile, regardless of their status, when I clicked accept on the course I wanted. I'm assuming this withdraws my applications on the backend and thus notifies the other courses I have withdrawn. Given it is the course administrators which can update the status of your application, I've no reason to believe this is incorrect.

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    Oh Wow ok I honestly didn't know that! I'm glad you brought this to my attention, I would never have guessed that was the case! It seems so crazy to me that that would be their process!! Thanks for explaining!


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