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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    spookwoman wrote: »
    I am referring to society, all age groups and how things have changed in how people are willing to sacrifice.

    Well you mentioned WW II as an example which doesn't apply to us. And for the record there were plenty of deserters and those that tried to avoid the call up to the army during the World Wars in all countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Young people now live in a time where:
    - Mental health issues and depression are at an all time high.
    - You require 2 years experience to even get an inkling of a part time job.
    - If your whole life doesn't revolve around social media and conforming to norms then you are a reject.
    - The schooling system treats everyone the same no matter what method of learning you prosper at.
    - And where older people paint you as a drunk and someone who sits at home and watches netflix.
    - Edit: We're also now facing a major recession, just as many will aim to start their careers.


    I can go on, but this is the COVID thread, and the comments about young people being the major issue here have gone beyond ridiculous.

    LOL... First world problems at its finest


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Could be a struggle if things are bad at the mushroom factory. Those results should be today or tomorrow.

    I hope this doesn't mushroom out of control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The mushroom factory came through yesterday, no? Tipp was +13.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    - If your whole life doesn't revolve around social media and conforming to norms then you are a reject.
    Ah now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    I stopped reading when you said this generation has an easier life than the previous. Nonsense.

    To be fair the standard of living has improved and social security net is much better now. People have better access to healthcare. Overall, life expectancy has increased. The luxuries of life that were not available earlier. Just an example, remembering phone numbers of your contact list earlier and now etc. But with this also comes idiocracy true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Young people are not to blame for this crisis, we are all in this. There are plenty of Middle aged morons doing plenty of stupid things.

    I do believe every generation has it easier then the previous, that’s not the fault of people born today, it’s just the way it is. I believe my parents were hardier they me, I don’t see that as an insult, just an observation. I don’t see why that’s changed for modern young adults who do have more luxuries then My generation. Mind you, I’m glad I didn’t have to suffer from the social media phenomenon, it’s toxic and will try and keep my children away from it as long as I can.
    I actually think it's a lot tougher now on kids, primarily in acquiring a coping skillset for life. There are so many distractions and influences, malign or otherwise, that can knock them sideways. This too leaks into the workplace and IMO they face huge challenges in adapting to demands we take for granted. Given a chance to do it all again at 18-20 now I'd pass!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I actually think it's a lot tougher now on kids, primarily in acquiring a coping skillset for life. There are so many distractions and influences, malign or otherwise, that can knock them sideways. This too leaks into the workplace and IMO they face huge challenges in adapting to demands we take for granted. Given a chance to do it all again at 18-20 now I'd pass!

    You mad, riding anything after a few Pints every weekend. I would love to do it all again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Young people now live in a time where:
    - Mental health issues and depression are at an all time high.
    - You require 2 years experience to even get an inkling of a part time job.
    - If your whole life doesn't revolve around social media and conforming to norms then you are a reject.
    - The schooling system treats everyone the same no matter what method of learning you prosper at.
    - And where older people paint you as a drunk and someone who sits at home and watches netflix.
    - Edit: We're also now facing a major recession, just as many will aim to start their careers.


    I can go on, but this is the COVID thread, and the comments about young people being the major issue here have gone beyond ridiculous.

    I grew up in the 80's.

    I would have killed for that list of "problems"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Boggles wrote: »
    I grew up in the 80's.

    I would have killed for that list of "problems"
    Just like thousands of young people now would kill to live in a world without social media, myself included.
    Real nice putting problems in quotations too, considering the depression and suicide levels in this country, that doesn't surprise me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    The mushroom factory came through yesterday, no? Tipp was +13.

    That was only after testing about 20 staff,the whole factory was tested yesterday so it could be a few days before all those results come through


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    That was only after testing about 20 staff,the whole factory was tested yesterday so it could be a few days before all those results come through
    I thought they had said there was only low levels of cases there, maybe not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Young people now live in a time where:
    - Mental health issues and depression are at an all time high.
    Compare that to mortality rate earlier? People live long enough that they get cancer now. Mental issues and depression were earlier too but may be overshadowed by other miseries of life which we take for granted now.

    Go to any third world country and you will see what I am talking about. No one cares about mental health because other issues are more aggravating.

    - You require 2 years experience to even get an inkling of a part time job.
    How is the social security and benefit situation now compared to earlier?
    - If your whole life doesn't revolve around social media and conforming to norms then you are a reject.
    This looks more like first world problem.
    - The schooling system treats everyone the same no matter what method of learning you prosper at.
    Compare that to the time when education was for elites and not everyone had free education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Well you mentioned WW II as an example which doesn't apply to us. And for the record there were plenty of deserters and those that tried to avoid the call up to the army during the World Wars in all countries.

    Plenty of Irish went to england to join the army over there and fight but yep we just created a list and set up the "starvation order", treated them as outcasts etc. :rolleyes:

    But I diverge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I actually think it's a lot tougher now on kids, primarily in acquiring a coping skillset for life. There are so many distractions and influences, malign or otherwise, that can knock them sideways. This too leaks into the workplace and IMO they face huge challenges in adapting to demands we take for granted. Given a chance to do it all again at 18-20 now I'd pass!

    I’m not sure I would be of the opinion that it’s harder in general but can understand if it would be harder from the perspective of coping skills. The latter I get, I’ve struggled with mental health issues all My life and addressing mental health problems was not a huge thing when I was growing up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    I thought they had said there was only low levels of cases there, maybe not.

    Hopefully it is only low levels suppose the next few days will tell a lot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    LOL... First world problems at its finest

    Got it in 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Got it in 1.
    Very mature response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Just like thousands of young people now would kill to live in a world without social media, myself included.

    Ah. It's not mandatory.
    Real nice putting problems in quotations too, considering the depression and suicide levels in this country, that doesn't surprise me.

    Do think mental health problems are a new concept?

    Anyway, way off topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭touts


    That was only after testing about 20 staff,the whole factory was tested yesterday so it could be a few days before all those results come through

    Tipp FM reported yesterday that all testing was complete and they hoped to ha e the results back in 24-48 hours. I'd say they will have a good idea now what proportion of the staff are infected. People are definitely on edge in Tipperary. Lots of rumours that it has spread to other factories etc but nothing concrete.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    What are the numbers for today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    niallo27 wrote: »
    So you think an 18 year old has the same level of maturity as someone in their 40s.

    No, but pretending that they are kids shouldn't be let run.

    They are young adults.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Young people now live in a time where:
    - Mental health issues and depression are at an all time high.
    - You require 2 years experience to even get an inkling of a part time job.
    - If your whole life doesn't revolve around social media and conforming to norms then you are a reject.
    - The schooling system treats everyone the same no matter what method of learning you prosper at.
    - And where older people paint you as a drunk and someone who sits at home and watches netflix.
    - Edit: We're also now facing a major recession, just as many will aim to start their careers.


    I can go on, but this is the COVID thread, and the comments about young people being the major issue here have gone beyond ridiculous.

    Let me rephrase that

    We all live in a time where
    All age groups are affected by this.
    - Mental health issues and depression are at an all time high.

    Welcome to the real world it has always been like that and just because someone comes out of college with whatever cert doesn't automatically entitle them to a job with all the bells and whistles.
    - You require 2 years experience to even get an inkling of a part time job.

    :confused:
    - If your whole life doesn't revolve around social media and conforming to norms then you are a reject.

    I can remember when SNA's did not even exist and that's not long ago. I also remember those with learning disabilities were just left to their own devices or shipped off to "special" schools. Do you expect everyone in a class to have their own teacher so they can be taught the way you want?
    - The schooling system treats everyone the same no matter what method of learning you prosper at.

    Stop being a drama queen no one has said that.
    - And where older people paint you as a drunk and someone who sits at home and watches netflix.

    Plenty of other age groups in the same boat.
    - Edit: We're also now facing a major recession, just as many will aim to start their careers.

    Well stop making it all about young people if you don't want people to comment on them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    touts wrote: »
    Tipp FM reported yesterday that all testing was complete and they hoped to ha e the results back in 24-48 hours. I'd say they will have a good idea now what proportion of the staff are infected. People are definitely on edge in Tipperary. Lots of rumours that it has spread to other factories etc but nothing concrete.

    Yeah testing was completed yesterday in a tent in the church grounds in the village,presume results will start to filter through from today,they will surely be high priority to establish if they have a big problem on their hands regarding this factory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Let me rephrase that

    We all live in a time where
    All age groups are affected by this.
    - Mental health issues and depression are at an all time high.

    Welcome to the real world it has always been like that and just because someone comes out of college with whatever cert doesn't automatically entitle them to a job with all the bells and whistles.
    - You require 2 years experience to even get an inkling of a part time job.

    :confused:
    - If your whole life doesn't revolve around social media and conforming to norms then you are a reject.

    I can remember when SNA's did not even exist and that's not long ago. I also remember those with learning disabilities were just left to their own devices or shipped off to "special" schools. Do you expect everyone in a class to have their own teacher so they can be taught the way you want?
    - The schooling system treats everyone the same no matter what method of learning you prosper at.

    Stop being a drama queen no one has said that.
    - And where older people paint you as a drunk and someone who sits at home and watches netflix.

    Plenty of other age groups in the same boat.
    - Edit: We're also now facing a major recession, just as many will aim to start their careers.
    Of course you disagree with me, anyway, off topic.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Yeah testing was completed yesterday in a tent in the church grounds in the village,presume results will start to filter through from today,they will surely be high priority to establish if they have a big problem on their hands regarding this factory
    Rumours also that the initial cohort who had tested positive were living together. Seems to be a trend with some of these workplace clusters that the problem stems from workers who are cohabiting rather than coming into contact in the workplace.

    Of course, we'll wait and see how this pans out. With the exception of the Kildare clusters the majority of other workplace clusters seem to have been brought under control.

    There was a few of these clusters during the full lockdown also but the national numbers were so high that they weren't as significant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    66 new cases, 0 deaths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    66 new cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    66 cases no deaths


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




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