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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #2912
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I watched some of this video but not all of it. Your man said something like a lot of people already have immunity to this etc.

    The reporter showed a graph and said something like so the virus has ran its course, ran through the population and not that's why we see the line is flattened.

    I stopped right there.

    The line was flattened because there was a lockdown to slow the spread of the virus. That's all.

    If that was the case, we would have seen a lot more cases during lockdown three months ago when nobody was wearing a mask and everyone was out in droves for the 5km walk.


  • #2913
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,481 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Ah lads. There’s stupidity then there’s this.
    Dame Lane.

    https://twitter.com/noelrock/status/1294768121190940675?s=21
    By sounds of it, it's been shut down by gardai.

    It's not really fair to label the whole dame lane area (the outside drinking is being well policed seemingly now) it's one pub that kip berlin taking the piss.


  • #2914
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Anyone calling for another lockdown should have a read of this it's fairly grim reading.

    After 146 Days in Lockdown, Argentina’s Virus Problem Is Getting Worse.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-08-12/after-146-days-in-lockdown-argentina-hasn-t-peaked-latam-wrap?__twitter_impression=true


  • #2915
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Zero Covid is not possible see New Zealand.

    Yes.

    But so many dissed the scientists who were asking the government to try it at least .

    New Zealand got there actually for 2 weeks .
    At least they have that.


  • #2916
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    gmisk wrote: »
    By sounds of it, it's been shut down by gardai.

    It's not really fair to label the whole dame lane area (the outside drinking is being well policed seemingly now) it's one pub that kip berlin taking the piss.

    Yeah but many other pubs closing up forever and seeing that - cannot imagine how they feel. The woman there on the news last week - bar open since the 1940's but no more


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  • #2917
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Just got a hint of what life will be like come September. Meant to be bringing my daughter to the park to meet a friend and his daughter for picnic/playdate.

    He’s just texted to say a kid in his daughters pod in crèche had the sniffles last week and GP is handing out test referrals like lollipops. Got tested on Wednesday but no results yet and crèche have advised all kids in the pod to stay at home until results come back.

    Class.

    So you think this is all overblown. It's all about trade offs.

    Thanks for letting us know. Really puts the measured whataboutery earlier in context and belies your true thoughts on this.

    Of course the bad side of this is it may take some time for the effects to be known. The potential good side (in some poster's mind) is the planet will probably be healthier if everyone had a shorter life span.


  • #2918
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Ah lads. There’s stupidity then there’s this.
    Dame Lane.

    https://twitter.com/noelrock/status/1294768121190940675?s=21

    Pretty disgusting behavior.
    Love to see the vintners association distance themselves from them and maybe lobby the likes of Diageo to stop supplying them.
    Would be a big statement to make. All the pubs closed without being told to and gained a lot of respect from the public. It's those scenes that really will turn the public against them.


  • #2919
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    That 25 out of 200 is still only 12.5% community transmission. Well below what the average actually is
    While a community transmission case is more problematic than a cluster case, this bs of "It's fine, community transmission is only X%" is nonsense. The cases are rising. If there were were 2500 cases total and only 50 of them were community transmission, that's only 2% community transmission, but only a fool would call it an improvement. Sure, it would mean our tracing was better, but that only works up to a point, and for all the tracers' alleged success of late (and I've no doubt they did some great work), the cases are still increasing, and I'd be very surprised if there was no community transmission which didn't arise from the meat factories unbeknownst to the tracers.


  • #2920
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Ah lads. There’s stupidity then there’s this.
    Dame Lane.

    https://twitter.com/noelrock/status/1294768121190940675?s=21

    Few Boards posters in that i'd say.


  • #2921
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    It was never given a chance because we never closed the ports or airports to outside travelers so it is a fairytale and impossible do especially when we have a land border with a different country that had different restrictions in place to ours.

    Have to say Northern Ireland has been pretty much following the same rules as us apart from that first week with the schools .
    The problem is with UK .


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  • #2922
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Ah lads. There’s stupidity then there’s this.
    Dame Lane.

    https://twitter.com/noelrock/status/1294768121190940675?s=21


    If genuine the place should be levelled by bulldozer at first light in the morning, then in the afternoon level the owners house.


  • #2923
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Opal Shy Oceanographer wrote: »
    If that was the case, we would have seen a lot more cases during lockdown three months ago when nobody was wearing a mask and everyone was out in droves for the 5km walk.

    People weren't mixing with each other during lockdown to the extent that they are now, therefore denying the virus the same opportunity to circulate. And that's why it was suppressed. And the numbers fell as a result.

    But when people start to move about again and interact with each other again the virus has more opportunities to circulate. And that's why numbers begin to rise again.

    It's that simple.


  • #2924
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I see Dame Lane is making itself known again.....

    That bar is an absolute dive, always has been, full of absolute nutters most of the time and that proves it.

    Think they can wave goodbye to their licence but sure the Gardai didn't stop it.


  • #2925
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Few Boards posters in that i'd say.

    Boards beers for the relaxation of restrictions thread.


  • #2926
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    gmisk wrote: »
    Dame lane? Have people been out drinking in big numbers again there?
    do you mean the berlin video?...that bar has always been a kip...

    kip is an understatement. Full of absolute headers


  • #2927
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Incredible video. Wtf.


  • #2928
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I'd say some "food pubs" just don't care anymore

    Non food pubs want #supportnotsympathy (trending tonight)

    its not non food pubs not caring, this is the same place that tried to arrange a rave when they reopened they'd not intention of doing what ever other pub / restaurant was doing, an absolute cesspit of an establishment


  • #2929
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes.

    But so many dissed the scientists who were asking the government to try it at least .

    New Zealand got there actually for 2 weeks .
    At least they have that.

    Maybe the government here know more about trying to shutdown the border than scientists. And by scientists, I hope you don't meant the letter signed by 1000, but when you look through the list, you see a lot of self employed, unemployed, teachers etc... on the occupation list.
    If Sinn Fein ain't calling for zero covid in Ireland, you know it's not possible. Even they see the issues. They call for an all Ireland approach, which that decision isn't down solely to our government.


  • #2930
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Just got a hint of what life will be like come September. Meant to be bringing my daughter to the park to meet a friend and his daughter for picnic/playdate.

    He’s just texted to say a kid in his daughters pod in crèche had the sniffles last week and GP is handing out test referrals like lollipops. Got tested on Wednesday but no results yet and crèche have advised all kids in the pod to stay at home until results come back.

    Class.

    Thankfully he had the cop on and showed responsibility and texted you to cancel your plans and for him to restrict his close contacts until he knows more. We need more people like this for sure. He put the health and safety of you and others ahead of his desire for a social get together.


    The problem here aw well is the child sent to crèche with sniffles. I know children gets a lot of colds usually. The problem here is some parents changing the guidelines to suit themselves and ignoring sniffles and saying its just a cold. If every parent did that, there will come a time when that cold might be something more sinister and turn out to be covid.

    Also if children with colds are isolated at home instead of mixing with peers in crèche and school, there should be less colds in school and crèche and then there should be less sniffles going around. Everyone will have to do their bit though but that probably won't happen.


  • #2931
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    So to bring it back to our own situation, where do we see ourselves in a months time?

    I'm thinking 4-500 cases daily in maybe 1-2 months, if more restrictive measures aren't put in place.

    This will take us to the cleaners come November and on until Spring. The outbreaks in refrigerated meat plans globally proves this virus is built to thrive in colder/drier conditions. Obviously the conditions of these plants don't help but there are plenty workers in factories across the globe in a similar closely packed environment, but it seems the cool temps bring about the perfect storm.


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  • #2932
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Strumms wrote: »
    In fairness I’d imagine the easiest thing to get right in schools would be the infrastructure, but like you are saying it’s how to prevent kids from behavior that can and will potentially be the catalyst for spreading. Teachers have a hard enough job simply teaching and enabling kids to learn, grow and be educated but add in this scenario...

    Teachers are not parents, parents got to parent, I know in this day and age that’s almost a fûckin foreign concept in some cases for parents but if the kid is CONSTANTLY disregarding, disrespecting and endangering even potentially the health, safety and welfare of the other students / staff... the school should inform both parents and students of a ‘strike’ system, whereby three strikes and it’s suspension for two weeks... rack up another three and good luck...

    My fella would be pretty good and has mostly abided by the rules ..but...when they get together, teens, that is , you're not dealing with an individual anymore , it's a 12 headed beast with it's own language and laws ! ;)
    I respect teachers and their job so much !


  • #2933
    What Username Guidelines
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So you think this is all overblown. It's all about trade offs.

    Thanks for letting us know. Really puts the measured whataboutery earlier in context and belies your true thoughts on this.

    Of course the bad side of this is it may take some time for the effects to be known. The potential good side (in some poster's mind) is the planet will probably be healthier if everyone had a shorter life span.

    Where did i say it was overblown? The lollipops reference was what was said to my friend by the crèche, and I’m wondering if every kid with the sniffles gets a test, which takes >4 days to get results, while every contact and secondary contact isolates, then the schools opening will result in a defacto lockdown as this isolation spreads through families, more than actual outbreaks causing lockdowns.


  • #2934
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    its not non food pubs not caring, this is the same place that tried to arrange a rave when they reopened they'd not intention of doing what ever other pub / restaurant was doing, an absolute cesspit of an establishment

    Is it a "food pub" ? Has some non food pubs opened in defiance, is the one in Limerick still opened?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #2935
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Just to check - on the updated map of cases, if it says 270 cases in my ED, what's the timespan for that? Is that total? Or since when? Thanks.


  • #2936
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    If genuine the place should be levelled by bulldozer at first light in the morning, then in the afternoon level the owners house.
    Could be bulldozed straight away, tbh. Safety obviously isn't a concern for the occupants.


  • #2937
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,481 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Yeah but many other pubs closing up forever and seeing that - cannot imagine how they feel. The woman there on the news last week - bar open since the 1940's but no more
    I totally agree.

    It is a kip and should be levelled.


  • #2938
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Lydia Petite Scumbag wrote: »
    Just to check - on the updated map of cases, if it says 270 cases in my ED, what's the timespan for that? Is that total? Or since when? Thanks.

    Total


  • #2939
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Where did i say it was overblown? The lollipops reference was what was said to my friend by the crèche, and I’m wondering if every kid with the sniffles gets a test, which takes >4 days to get results, while every contact and secondary contact isolates, then the schools opening will result in a defacto lockdown as this isolation spreads through families, more than actual outbreaks causing lockdowns.

    must of read wrong sorry. It is a hard thing but testing people of contacts is standard practice. Telling people to isolate is also.
    Sorry about the play date.
    Don't see schools working myself but we must try.


  • #2940
    [Deleted User]
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    Just learned last evening of a brother of a friend (of my own middle-aged vintage) who died of Covid. Sparse funeral attended by his mother and siblings. If anybody thinks it's an ordinary illness, think again.


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  • #2941
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Ficheall wrote: »
    While a community transmission case is more problematic than a cluster case, this bs of "It's fine, community transmission is only X%" is nonsense. The cases are rising. If there were were 2500 cases total and only 50 of them were community transmission, that's only 2% community transmission, but only a fool would call it an improvement. Sure, it would mean our tracing was better, but that only works up to a point, and for all the tracers' alleged success of late (and I've no doubt they did some great work), the cases are still increasing, and I'd be very surprised if there was no community transmission which didn't arise from the meat factories unbeknownst to the tracers.

    25 community transmissions with a R of less than 1 and clusters were confined would be ok. But I doubt the R is less than 1 in the community and now the 4 or so larger clusters are causing a 'secondary spread'. Not sure of that term. But definitely a worrying situation.


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