Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

ACitizenErased · 15-08-2020 07:30PM

noserider wrote: »

Is there any merit in saying the virus is less potent than when it first hit Ireland (i.e. the more people it infects the further it moves from the original strain first introduced via China/Italy?Europe)? Would this explain the low death figures or is that just a case of being more prominent in younger folk at the moment?
Am not a scientist, just curious.

According to the O'Briens meat factory only 3 out of 83 staff have shown symptoms. Wouldn't use that as a benchmark obviously but we've heard a lot of that in the last while.

PokeHerKing · 15-08-2020 07:31PM

what the hell! wrote: »

Lots of people with chips on their shoulders when it comes to Cork. We can’t help it that we’re all wearing masks and doing so well at the moment.

Rebel County my ar$e!

screamer · 15-08-2020 07:31PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

What was his reply to you assuming there was one?

He took himself to the checkout and got out of the shop right after.

DeanAustin · 15-08-2020 07:31PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Deaths are very low at the moment, 0 again today. There’s almost no-one in hospital. Admissions are minimal, if any as many Covid hospital patients have other conditions also.
In Ireland on average 90 people die per day...we don’t get daily announcements about it, lockdowns or constant scaremongering.
I asked the question on the restrictions thread earlier in the week, is there any data out there to suggest the virus is losing its potency? A huge amount of people getting diagnosed currently are asymptomatic / very mild symptoms. They’re only being picked up by close contact tracing + then thrown onto our daily Covid numbers.

That's a fair point but I think if you lift restrictions and learn to live with it, you will see an increase in deaths. I'm not advocating continued lockdowns. In fact, I'm erring more on the side of a re-opening of society. But it'd be foolish to think that doesn't come with the increased risk and the likelihood of deaths.

fly_agaric · 15-08-2020 07:31PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Posted this on reddit the other day but it might be useful here as well, just so people know what it looks like if you get a close contact warning through the app.

Notification

App

Also if you dig into the settings and check the Exposure Checks (Settings > Search for "COVID" > COVID-19 Exposure Notifications > COVID-19 Exposure Logging > Exposure Checks) you can see if any of them have a number larger than zero beside "Matched Keys".

Thanks for that, interesting to see what it (warning from the application) looks like - hopefully won't see the real thing.

s1ippy · 15-08-2020 07:32PM

screamer wrote: »

Well if it doesn’t it’ll take out a lot of the idiots anyways. Likely we’ll have some sort of vaccine or the virus will burn itself out. Till then we have to be safe and smart but I suppose those are virtues idiots don’t possess.

Yeah a lot of healthcare professionals must be idiots to have gotten this.

What a terrible thing to say from your position, sitting on your ass somewhere it can't get you.

LiquidZeb · 15-08-2020 07:33PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Deaths are very low at the moment, 0 again today. There’s almost no-one in hospital. Admissions are minimal, if any as many Covid hospital patients have other conditions also.
In Ireland on average 90 people die per day...we don’t get daily announcements about it, lockdowns or constant scaremongering.
I asked the question on the restrictions thread earlier in the week, is there any data out there to suggest the virus is losing its potency? A huge amount of people getting diagnosed currently are asymptomatic / very mild symptoms. They’re only being picked up by close contact tracing + then thrown onto our daily Covid numbers.

I brought up the 90 deaths a day myself and I was told essentially that non covid deaths matter less. Priorities.

screamer · 15-08-2020 07:35PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Yeah a lot of healthcare professionals must be idiots to have gotten this.

What a terrible thing to say from your position, sitting on your ass somewhere it can't get you.

I’m not talking about healthcare workers so feck off with your whatabouttery. I’m talking about joe public who couldn’t be bothered to maintain social distancing or adhere to the rules when covid19 is actively circulating.

owlbethere · 15-08-2020 07:35PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You genuinely think they'll stop counties with less than 10 daily cases from opening their schools? Nonsense.
140 cases in Kildare and Dublin, next highest is Tipp with 13. Schools will open.

Counties with less than 10 daily cases can grow into more cases. Especially now with complacency has set into a lot of the population.

The only way that schools and evens pubs reopening is if the government comes down heavy on the population. Large fines for people who don't isolate themselves if they have a cold or they have respiratory symptoms like cough.

LiquidZeb · 15-08-2020 07:35PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Yeah a lot of healthcare professionals must be idiots to have gotten this.

What a terrible thing to say from your position, sitting on your ass somewhere it can't get you.

I would genuinely love to know who some lads here think they are. Branding Oxford professors of virology ****wits, some were.

Ficheall · 15-08-2020 07:35PM

I've lost the post where I saw it, but the (don't worry it's only) clusters are less than 50% now, right? So there's a big chunk of community transmission and travel related cases?

ACitizenErased · 15-08-2020 07:35PM

We crossed 700,000 tests today by the way - good landmark to reach. 143,000 tests per million places us above Italy.

ChikiChiki · 15-08-2020 07:36PM

Them numbers are nothing short of a disaster. So many mistakes to get us to this point.

ACitizenErased · 15-08-2020 07:36PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I've lost the post where I saw it, but the (don't worry it's only) clusters are less than 50% now, right? So there's a big chunk of community transmission and travel related cases?

Not clusters, outbreaks. Outbreaks are large clusters.

CalamariFritti · 15-08-2020 07:36PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Over 6 months. The majority of which had serious underlying issues and were elderly.

Sympathy for them and their families of course but deaths were always going to happen and occur every day for a myriad of reasons.

0 deaths in days and only 14 in hospital in the whole country. Those are the important numbers, not the ever increasing running total that only promotes the hysteria and fear seen in this thread tonight.

People caught a virus that will be of little risk to the vast majority of them. That's what the evidence is showing and that (along with the numbers above) is what matters.

Plus that number is quite doubtful. Died with COVID, suspected COVID. And could have been 1000 less had we not fkd up with the nursing homes.

froog · 15-08-2020 07:37PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Over 6 months. The majority of which had serious underlying issues and were elderly.

Sympathy for them and their families of course but deaths were always going to happen and occur every day for a myriad of reasons.

0 deaths in days and only 14 in hospital in the whole country. Those are the important numbers, not the ever increasing running total that only promotes the hysteria and fear seen in this thread tonight.

People caught a virus that will be of little risk to the vast majority of them. That's what the evidence is showing and that (along with the numbers above) is what matters.

you still don't get it. right now younger people are getting it. and it is much less dangerous for them. but the more this thing spreads, the greater the chance they pass it to older or high risk people and then we see start seeing the deaths. you remember what happened in the nursing homes yes?

ACitizenErased · 15-08-2020 07:38PM

Completely missed this - the electoral region cases map was updated 12th August!
https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

Jim_Hodge · 15-08-2020 07:38PM

screamer wrote: »

Well if it doesn’t it’ll take out a lot of the idiots anyways. Likely we’ll have some sort of vaccine or the virus will burn itself out. Till then we have to be safe and smart but I suppose those are virtues idiots don’t possess.

A crass comment considering all those who have been extremely ill due to this.
The healthcare workers I know who contracted the virus were, I can assure you, no idiots.

CalamariFritti · 15-08-2020 07:38PM

froog wrote: »

you still don't get it. right now younger people are getting it. and it is much less dangerous for them. but the more this thing spreads, the greater the chance they pass it to older or high risk people and then we see start seeing the deaths. you remember what happened in the nursing homes yes?

But also the more people get it the less it can spread as it runs out of new hosts.

froog · 15-08-2020 07:39PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I've lost the post where I saw it, but the (don't worry it's only) clusters are less than 50% now, right? So there's a big chunk of community transmission and travel related cases?

i'm sure they'll move the goalposts again. maybe ignore a few more counties or something.

Drumpot · 15-08-2020 07:40PM

Checking in after dinner.

s1ippy · 15-08-2020 07:40PM

screamer wrote: »

I’m not talking about healthcare workers so feck off with your whatabouttery. I’m talking about joe public who couldn’t be bothered to maintain social distancing or adhere to the rules when covid19 is actively circulating.

Look nobody deserves to get sick. Some people will make mistakes and others will be careless and there's always the odd windowlicker in every group but anyone with an iota of compassion will be able to leave blame out of it.

Next thing you could be one of the "idiot"s that get it and you'll be hoping people aren't casting aspersions so callously.

Boggles · 15-08-2020 07:40PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

I hate to break it to you but not having bowel screen, cervical and breast check running has only increased the problem. Or by the sounds of your Blaise attitude is that acceptable?

You are minimizing the largest public health crisis in a generation with false equivalency and nonsensical rambling but you are calling me "Blaise".

Cool.

Also you should read up on screening, unfortunately it is not the magic bullet the "it's just flu bro" cohort would you lead you to believe.

ACitizenErased · 15-08-2020 07:41PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I've lost the post where I saw it, but the (don't worry it's only) clusters are less than 50% now, right? So there's a big chunk of community transmission and travel related cases?

Here's your link:
Almost half of new Covid-19 cases in Ireland last week linked to workplace outbreaks

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/almost-half-new-covid-19-22522135

landofthetree · 15-08-2020 07:41PM

Strumms wrote: »

Why do you wonder if they are effective, virologists and medical people have been advocating their use from the outset .

Without masks you’d see cases and deaths rise.

Some have. Some havent.
The advice in Ireland at the start was not to bother with them.

https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/38343-hse-advice-remains-the-same-little-value-in-masks-unless-you-are-ill-or-in-a-medical-setting

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 15-08-2020 07:41PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

So aren't they still having plastic, sanitiser and training? Again, what effect do you expect from this?

On that line in bold...
Are you running out of arguments so you're trying to ridicule me?

Basically what Strumms says two posts below me. Once everyone does it they wouldnt have the balls not to do it. And the pressure from media and social media. And its not going to do any damage (hopefully). So give the people what the people want. No conspiracy required. They wouldnt be smart enough for that anyway.

That they aren't getting the virus. So your point is null.

So why do you think all guidance globally has been to wear a mask in addition to the common sense that blocking your mouth and nose obviously stops a certain amount of fluids?

Arghus · 15-08-2020 07:42PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

I brought up the 90 deaths a day myself and I was told essentially that non covid deaths matter less. Priorities.

Who said that?

Goldengirl · 15-08-2020 07:43PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

The drug manufacturing industry love obesity and unhealthy diets.

You've high blood pressure? Take blood pressure pills

You're fat? Take some weight loss pills

You've diabetes? Take some of these pills etc

They're certainly not advertising good health can lessen the effects

The drug industry would be interested in selling drugs...yes .
Just like the alcohol industry will sell alcohol .
And the tobacco industry tried to tell everybody that smoking was good for you back in the day ..and guess what , some are trying to say that smoking prevents Covid now !
I think we know that salesmen will try to sell.

You go to a doctor or nurse for help with with high blood pressure , diabetes or obesity, you will not be sent away with pills , unless there is no other way .
You will however be given instructions to go on a diet and ,use weight , take exercise, cut out salt and fats , perform relaxation and mindfulness techniques etc

spookwoman · 15-08-2020 07:43PM

Here are the numbers for community transmission and close contact / outbreaks since they started publishing at the start of the month. There is none for travel.

Cazale · 15-08-2020 07:43PM

Benimar wrote:

Yes, cases in 18 of the 26 counties today.

10 of the 11 councils in the north had cases today too.

Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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