Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

John O.Groats wrote: »

Unbelievable that people are still peddling this nonsense. There are plenty of cases of young healthy people being infected by the Covid 19 virus and suffering serious health issues as a result.

Your still peddling this hysteria nonsense

Its no more dangerous to young folk than the flu

The issue is most poster's get all their info off social media and clickbait tripe websites, so they think people only died or got sick since March in Ireland.

Idbatterim wrote: »

You say beakth is comex, housing. You know well run countries dont have these issues? Tbis place is a banana repubouc, thats the problem!

They know exaclty how to fix it but they choose not to.

I’m obviously anti lockdown and anti the whole Covid mania but definitely not anti an effective vaccine if one is registered. It will reduce the severity and allow us get back to normal lives. I would take it if available, wouldn’t really bother me

road_high wrote: »

I’m obviously anti lockdown and anti the whole Covid mania but definitely not anti an effective vaccine if one is registered. It will reduce the severity and allow us get back to normal lives. I would take it if available, wouldn’t really bother me

I fully agree with you.

I will have no issue getting the vaccine for the sole purpose of easing the mind of the perpetually hysterical

I will however, know that the risks associated with the vaccine, will be multiple times greater than the risk of Covid to myself, and believe I should be remembered appropriately for my selfless actions

John O.Groats wrote: »

I never claimed that they all die. I stated that previously healthy young people have suffered serious potentially long term health issues as a result of contracting the virus.

Yes ok but how many?

Lundstram wrote: »

'Plenty'

Meaning I'm talking through my arse and haven't a clue as to the real figure or stats.

But the news says so:)

John O.Groats wrote: »

Unless you are an expert on virology which I very much doubt you don`t know anything of the kind. Nonsensical comment.
In relation to the last sentence of your post the Fintan Mcluskey Memorial Medal awarded to future "selfless heroes" would have a bit of a ring to it right enough.

Do you know what the gold standard of testing anything is? Its called a double-blind study. Well with covid we have taken part in a double blind study unknowing so. And the results are in every day we are not all 6 foot down.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Your still peddling this hysteria nonsense

Its no more dangerous to young folk than the flu

The issue is most poster's get all their info off social media and clickbait tripe websites, so they think people only died or got sick since March in Ireland.

You didn't comment yesterday when I posted about the 32 year old woman who died in the north? I've never heard of a young person dying from the flu. There's up to half a million people in the UK with 'long Covid' symptoms...but yeah...hysteria :rolleyes:

Penfailed wrote: »

You didn't comment yesterday when I posted about the 32 year old woman who died in the north? I've never heard of a young person dying from the flu. There's up to half a million people in the UK with 'long Covid' symptoms...but yeah...hysteria :rolleyes:

Here you go .. that's from a 2 second Google

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/17/health/flu-ohio-teen-kaylee-roberts-death-eprise/index.html

No-one says that young(er) people can't die from this thing or indeed the flu - just that on the balance it's highly unlikely (and I'm going to keep pointing out how these are GOOD things as that seems to get lost a lot)

The issue you seem to be having is that you're taking the outliers and small percentage of deaths in those categories as representative of the whole population - when all the evidence and HSE's own figures - show that for the vast majority, there is very little long term risk from this thing.

And again, that's a GOOD THING.

Where we are going wrong in our response is using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut by imposing broad (often impractical) restrictions on everyone when we should be targeting our efforts to those who actually need it.

An example is the imminent return of schools and school buses. First it was mandated that there would have to be social distancing as on regular buses . Then when that turned out to be unrealistic it was kids must sit in pods. Still that's not workable so now it's going to be a free-for-all with fully loaded buses as usual. It just goes to show that in the end, the response is more about appearing to do something, but when push comes to shove the reality that this is of little risk to younger people sets in and the excessive measures quietly disappear.

It'll be the same in a few months when the economic damage and consequences on jobs and business really starts to bite - pragmatic reality will override any medical theory of getting the virus to zero until such time as a reliable vaccine becomes widely available.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Yeah young people die from the flu.


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-s-how-flu-virus-kills-some-people-so-quickly-n839936

Suicide in young men only became an issue recently was always there but we still dont ban alcohol. When this is all over and comparisons are done the crowd in control are going to look like fools. Behind the curve.

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I disagree but only in that we're not alone in this madness. I have family in Germany and its more or less the same over there if not worse.

It how your respone to this madness. Thats the problem here.

The Belly wrote: »

It how your respone to this madness. Thats the problem here.

In Germany the response to anyone who is not on the panic train is just the same if not worse.

At the moment if you're not fully on the party line they'll find a name/tag for you and then they discredit you without actually ever having to respond to what you said. So for example you become a 'Corona denier' or 'Corona doubter.' And then they associate you with - take your pick - Trump, Nazis, conspiracy theorists or plain old crazies. Since one of them may or may not have said something similar at some point. Meaning now they don't even have to deal with what you actually said. Tag applied, problem solved, now go back to your crazy friends. And put your fkn mask on.

'They' is the mainstream media btw.

A bit like here only we do it on a smaller scale.

You say something about COVID that isn't on the media mob approved line you're like Trump or Gemma whatshername. Dismissed so.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

No-one says that young(er) people can't die from this thing or indeed the flu - just that on the balance it's highly unlikely (and I'm going to keep pointing out how these are GOOD things as that seems to get lost a lot)

The issue you seem to be having is that you're taking the outliers and small percentage of deaths in those categories as representative of the whole population

No, the issue that I have is that people like Fintan completely ignore the small percentage of deaths in those categories. They don't even acknowledge them. They make blanket statements that are factually inaccurate.

snowcat wrote: »

Yes you can. There is numerous ones. The regular flu being one. Stop being a crazy

Again, not comparing like for like. The OP mentioned people getting killed playing rugby due to it being a contact sport - not even vaguely similar to catching a virus.