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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • #1772
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,070 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    "As we continue to confront the China Virus we are rebuilding Americas economy like nobody thought possible."

    "Stock market up almost 300 points again today."

    "Our economy is performing significantly better than Europe...at the same time, Europe has experienced a higher excess mortality than the US...we are working with Europe on their difficulty's and we are going to help them all the way."

    "We have the strongest performing economy in the world, were up 9 trillion dollars in value since March."





    Only got around to watching the presidents conference today. Impressive figures indeed. Despite the virus, Americans pockets are getting lined, this will be reflected on polling day for sure. Its also nice that the Trump administration is giving aid to us in Europe, this is also a vote winner.

    Lol joe goebbels would be creaming himself with that level of propaganda there....

    "in a few short months we're going to be supplying the world with ventilators"....

    Eh.... Your already a few short months too late you imbecile


  • #1773
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,684 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    In case you wasted your time like I did reading that Newsweek article about Harris and were duped into thinking the Claremont Institute was even slightly legitimate, a writer for Slate destroys Eastman's argument and shines some light on the sewer that is the Claremont Instittute: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/kamala-harris-birther-birthright-citizenship-claremont.html?via=homepage_taps_top


  • #1774
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,537 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Igotadose wrote: »
    In case you wasted your time like I did reading that Newsweek article about Harris and were duped into thinking the Claremont Institute was even slightly legitimate, a writer for Slate destroys Eastman's argument and shines some light on the sewer that is the Claremont Instittute: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/kamala-harris-birther-birthright-citizenship-claremont.html?via=homepage_taps_top
    Eastman clearly had an agenda and was pissed off at losing out in the AG race to her.
    Newsweek have made a serious mistake imo publishing this guff....they seem to be back pedaling furiously.


  • #1775
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,537 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    There is a massive sort of apology/disclaimer at the start of the original article now that says it all


  • #1776
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.


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  • #1777
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.

    Citation? Where is this information?


  • #1778
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.

    Not according to this poll from yesterday. Biden leads golfing Don by 11%


  • #1779
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.
    I posted 538 model from 2016 earlier, and this is just flat out wrong. But I think you know that.

    Have you links to back up either of your assertions, actually?


  • #1780
    salmocab
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    I haven’t been looking at polls for obvious reasons but the one I did look at suited my narrative so I did look at that one but none of the others I promise.


  • #1781
    sydthebeat
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    The only poll worth watching is the bookies odds.

    Currently Joe Biden is 8/11

    Trump is 7/5

    In a two horse race that's a big difference and no where near a tight call.

    I do expect those odds to tighten as trumps election suppression methods become more obvious


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  • #1782
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,537 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.
    What poll was that then?
    Nearly every poll I have seen has biden with a 10+ percent lead.
    The bunker joe thing doesn't really work....Trump was the one who was hiding in a bunker for a start lol...


  • #1783
    iebamm2580
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    Think harris is impressive and will probably be the next president after biden who will noway seek a second term, thinking trump is goosed at this point.


  • #1784
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,071 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.

    Why do you think bunker Joe is a name to call him? You do know that staying in and away from others, particularly given his age, is exactly what he should be doing.

    And yet he is using this time to get a VP pick, get his message out.

    On the other hand you had Trump hold a rally, against the wishes of the local politicians and against the advice of the CDC, which turned out to be a complete disaster.

    He is also surrounded by doctors and everyone meeting him is supposed to be meidcially verified prior.

    One is showing leadership and showing how, even in changing and difficult circumstances he can still lead and play a leadership role, while Trump complains about everything and blames everybody for things not working out.


  • #1785
    Eric Cartman
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    The only poll worth watching is the bookies odds.

    Currently Joe Biden is 8/11

    Trump is 7/5

    In a two horse race that's a big difference and no where near a tight call.

    I do expect those odds to tighten as trumps election suppression methods become more obvious

    Sure trump was 3/1 on election night 2016, wouldnt take the odds into account for now.


  • #1786
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.

    You were better off when you weren't paying attention. When you paid attention you fupped up and came on here to show everybody your incompetence.

    Here is an RCP page comparing 2016 with 2020, what it doesn't show is the number of undecided, which are a lot lower this time and much less likely to break for Trump than in 2016. RCP is a site with a pro GOP editorial stance btw. in case you think they are some kind of fake news.


  • #1787
    sydthebeat
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Sure trump was 3/1 on election night 2016, wouldnt take the odds into account for now.

    Obviously the huge glaring difference between then and now is that trump is no longer an unknown quantity....

    His quantity and quality are all too well known unfortunately


  • #1788
    PropJoe10
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Sure trump was 3/1 on election night 2016, wouldnt take the odds into account for now.

    He was, but he was also running against the most unpopular candidate that the Democrats ever ran. That's not the case this time, plus a lot of swing voters will hopefully have seen what a danger Trump is to American lives and civilised society.

    I'm not saying that he won't win - in fact, I think he'll probably try to hold onto power, win or lose. But he's definitely up against it this time round.


  • #1789
    [Deleted User]
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    Bunker Joe? Remind me who was hiding in a bunker when some citizens were exercising their right to protest outside the white house.


  • #1790
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Bunker Joe? Remind me who was hiding in a bunker when some citizens were exercising their right to protest outside the white house.

    It's amazing the mental gymnastics that the Trump zealots perform, Constantly calling Biden names or accusing him of something while all the time ignoring the fact that #IMPOTUS has done the same and worse :D


  • #1791
    biko
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    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.


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  • #1792
    duploelabs
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    biko wrote: »
    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.
    Yet Kim shrugged his shoulders and continued on with his missile testing. All Trump did was legitimise a despot


  • #1793
    Professor Moriarty
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    biko wrote: »
    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.

    Yes, the world is such a better place. That transparent attempt to bolster Trump's election chances by two Trump crony countries peace deal has soothed everyone's nerves. Like all the major players such as Turkey and Iran are thrilled. Yes Kim is Trump's BFF. NK bombing the crap out of the NK/SK liaison centre in June was a direct result of four years of Trump's naivety in trying to pacify Kim a simple mistake. Imagine what the world would be like without Trump's incompetent narcissism statesmanship.


  • #1794
    Cody montana
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    biko wrote: »
    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.

    We’re uae/Israel at war?


  • #1795
    ancapailldorcha
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    biko wrote: »
    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.

    He's simperingly sucked up to tyrants, unleashed the national guard and secret police on Americans and now he's allegedly brokered a peace deal between two countries who weren't at war.

    Some achievement.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #1796
    biko
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    Cody montana wrote: »
    We’re uae/Israel at war?
    Are you asking "were UAE/Israel at war?"
    The answer is no.

    Egypt and Jordan already have diplomatic relations with Israel, and now UAE too.
    More to follow I hope.


  • #1797
    weisses
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    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I haven't been paying attention.

    That's your flaw right there


  • #1798
    [Deleted User]
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    biko wrote: »
    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.

    Firstly, outside of the fact you've tried to big him up far too much. He narrowly avoided staring a war with Iran... Americans vote on domestic policy in an election, 200k plus dead by election day will define this election. Also he's spent the entirety of his presidency courting controversies. No president has been so publicly obsessed with his popularity....


  • #1799
    Cody montana
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    biko wrote: »
    Are you asking "were UAE/Israel at war?"
    The answer is no.

    Egypt and Jordan already have diplomatic relations with Israel, and now UAE too.
    More to follow I hope.

    If only they had some sort of deal with Iran?
    Palestine are not even getting a mention.

    Wasn’t there big fanfare over a peace deal back in January?


  • #1800
    weisses
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    biko wrote: »
    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.

    He also got impeached....


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  • #1801
    PropJoe10
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    biko wrote: »
    Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
    And not started any wars.

    The first peace president in decades.

    If he didn't spend so much time stoking division and intolerance in his own country, then maybe people could get more complimentary about his foreign policy "achievements".


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