Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

owlbethere · 14-08-2020 03:02PM

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-or-just-a-common-cold-what-to-do-when-your-child-gets-sick-this-winter-140727

Australia is at the end of their winter and I suppose they experienced what many people will be experiencing in the coming weeks with going back to school. I found this online. A written piece from Australia. The advice if there's any cold symptoms is to stay at home.

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 03:02PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Do you go for an STI check when you've a stuffed nose?

Depends on where my nose was

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 03:03PM

seanb85 wrote: »

Depends on where my nose was

I laughed... ffs

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:03PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

And they should be tested at the first instance, which others are denying.

There really isn't a first instance. If you have a few children you will always have one of them with a sniffle. It really needs to back to the early criteria through a GP.

gmisk · 14-08-2020 03:04PM

Did I just hear NI reported 74 cases today? Yikes!

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 03:04PM

polesheep wrote: »

You sound like you would put kids through sheep dip if you thought it would keep you safer.

Kids are tougher than some on here would like to believe. They get plenty of vaccines that hurt more than a quick swab.

caveat emptor · 14-08-2020 03:05PM

Very positive news about t-cells and immunity.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1294266337473093632?s=20

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:06PM

seanb85 wrote: »

Kids are tougher than some on here would like to believe. They get plenty of vaccines that hurt more than a quick swab.

That's not the point being made. The point is kids often have runny noses or similar as their immune system is developing.

What Username Guidelines · 14-08-2020 03:06PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Hi lads. I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes. Should I get tested?

Covid is all around us, and so the deficit grooooows...

Ficheall · 14-08-2020 03:06PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Stuffed nose isn't really a symptom of STIs or Covid, was what I was getting at..

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:08PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Very positive news about t-cells and immunity.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1294266337473093632?s=20

That could be massive and the reason why we are not seeing increasing hospitalisation.

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 03:10PM

32 year old has died in NI.
Additional 74 cases today. Way worse up there than down here at the moment. In population terms that would be 200 cases down here.

https://twitter.com/bbcnewsni/status/1294259003195887616?s=21

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 03:12PM

polesheep wrote: »

That's not the point being made. The point is kids often have runny noses or similar as their immune system is developing.

Yep they do, infants have regular upper respiratory tract infections. The point is there is presently a new virus that commonly presents with the symptoms of an upper respiratory tract infection which is a significant danger to public health.

In these circumstances you apply the precautionary principle and don't just dismiss symptoms because you feel it's unlikely to be Covid 19.

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 03:12PM

polesheep wrote: »

That could be massive and the reason why we are not seeing increasing hospitalisation.

I find the lack of hospitalisations fascinating tbh, there’s definitely something else other than age at play

road_high · 14-08-2020 03:13PM

Did they die with it or of it? Huge difference

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:14PM

seanb85 wrote: »

Yep they do, infants have regular upper respiratory tract infections. The point is there is presently a new virus that commonly presents with the symptoms of an upper respiratory tract infection which is a significant danger to public health.

In these circumstances you apply the precautionary principle and don't just dismiss symptoms because you feel it's unlikely to be Covid 19.

If you think most parents are going to bring infants and children for a test every time they have a sniffle you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Ficheall · 14-08-2020 03:14PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I find the lack of hospitalisations fascinating tbh, there’s definitely something else other than age at play

Well, when the whole thing kicked off they seemed to be sending everyone who tested positive to hospital, and now they just tell them to go home and self-isolate unless symptoms worsen

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:15PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I find the lack of hospitalisations fascinating tbh, there’s definitely something else other than age at play

Well, yes, co-morbidity. But T-Cell immunity may be far more prevalent now than was previously supposed.

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:16PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Well, when the whole thing kicked off they seemed to be sending everyone who tested positive to hospital, and now they just tell them to go home and self-isolate unless symptoms worsen

That's not true.

MerlinSouthDub · 14-08-2020 03:16PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I find the lack of hospitalisations fascinating tbh, there’s definitely something else other than age at play

I'm not so sure. The severity of Covid varies heavily with age. With the current age profile of new infections, you would expect a lower hospitalisation rate. Yes, the hospitalisation rate seems very low right now but there's a relatively small number of infections and I wouldn't draw any conclusions with the limited data

Ficheall · 14-08-2020 03:18PM

polesheep wrote: »

That's not true.

Is it not? Fair enough. I thought they were far more cagey initially, but I can't swear to it.

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 03:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I find the lack of hospitalisations fascinating tbh, there’s definitely something else other than age at play

I think it's down to how many cases we were missing during the worst period, back then it was about 10 to 15% of confirmed cases that ended up in hospital. But its likely there were about 10 times the confirmed number. We are probably still missing some cases but nowhere near what it was a few months ago.

ACitizenErased · 14-08-2020 03:19PM

We see on the HSE update that there are a lot of same day/next day admissions & discharges.

mloc123 · 14-08-2020 03:19PM

polesheep wrote: »

That's not true.

It kinda is true.. for the first 2-3 weeks everyone went into hospital

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:20PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Is it not? Fair enough. I thought they were far more cagey initially, but I can't swear to it.

People who were admitted to hospital were very ill with it and often more at risk due to a comorbidity. I realise my reply was terse/rude, apologies.

Ficheall · 14-08-2020 03:21PM

polesheep wrote: »

I realise my reply was terse/rude, apologies.

You'd want to up your fecking game to register as rude in these threads :pac:

mloc123 · 14-08-2020 03:22PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

32 year old has died in NI.
Additional 74 cases today. Way worse up there than down here at the moment. In population terms that would be 200 cases down here.

https://twitter.com/bbcnewsni/status/1294259003195887616?s=21

Not surprised at all, we were in Newcastle (Down) about a month ago and it was a free for all... Pubs packed till 1am because they had beer gardens, no masks or 2m rule in cafes etc..

polesheep · 14-08-2020 03:22PM

mloc123 wrote: »

It kinda is true.. for the first 2-3 weeks everyone went into hospital

We weren't testing in the community. See Sean's post above for hospitalisation stats.

seanb85 · 14-08-2020 03:27PM

polesheep wrote: »

We weren't testing in the community. See Sean's post above for hospitalisation stats.

They did hospitalise all our initial confirmed cases, including a family from Clare I think who were either asymptomatic or had mild symptoms. That was when the initial plan was to prevent an outbreak, once it was copped that we had uncontrolled community transmission this was abandoned.

14-08-2020 03:27PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

I'm not so sure. The severity of Covid varies heavily with age. With the current age profile of new infections, you would expect a lower hospitalisation rate. Yes, the hospitalisation rate seems very low right now but there's a relatively small number of infections and I wouldn't draw any conclusions with the limited data

There might be a small sample here, but the same dynamics are evident in the UK, Germany and Spain. It’s been weeks of high infection numbers in those countries, but no corresponding lagged rise in hospital admissions

Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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