Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

fritzelly · 13-08-2020 03:02AM

eagle eye wrote: »

There's more people posting about things being fine, no concerns regarding children going back to school and lots of other dreamy fairweather stuff without any backup.

Reminds me of a good friend of mine who always expects the worst of any situation
Wait and see what happens then you can say in hindsight (as that is always the best way to look at things

) that was a terrible decision or take the alternative approach and say we have to try and live life like somewhat normal and deal with the consequences

Santy2015 · 13-08-2020 07:52AM

eagle eye wrote: »

There's more people posting about things being fine, no concerns regarding children going back to school and lots of other dreamy fairweather stuff without any backup.

At it again. Did you watch the CMO presser earlier? There’s no place that has no risk!! It’s the same every year.
But his been known to be a dreamy fairweather kind of guy.......
Get over yourself let your kids go out and play, let them be kids, let them play in a playground, just let your kids be kids without unconsciously causing them to get anxiety before you eventually let them outside from behind the curtain when I suppose by reading what you’ve been saying until at least they’re 18!

Paddygreen · 13-08-2020 08:41AM

owlbethere wrote: »

It's a viral infection. Viral infections of the past wrecked havoc on some peoples bodies eg some people lost their hearing with measles. This virus, its a new virus. Its going to wreck havoc on some peoples bodies. Some people might lose their hearing. Others might lose their sight. Others might lose limbs. Others will experience hair loss. Noone knows what way their body is going to behave if they get the virus.

My friend Geoffrey (haven’t seen Geoff since March) had a really bad eye twitch combined with pica, long term vegan craving “salad” burgers , turns out he had the Covid. That’s what makes this lethal virus so bone chillingly terrifying...people seem to be presenting with every symptom in the book. Anything could be the Covid including hair and limb loss as you say. Absolutely petrified thinking about it.

Paddygreen · 13-08-2020 09:01AM

eagle eye wrote: »

There's more people posting about things being fine, no concerns regarding children going back to school and lots of other dreamy fairweather stuff without any backup.

Things are not fine. It’s a catastrophe. Any time I hear someone being positive about this horrific situation I bring them right back down to earth and remind them just how grave it is and that we need to hold firm to stay safe as we are in it together.

FionnK86 · 13-08-2020 09:09AM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Had my first real world interaction with some covid crazies at the hotel I work at today! A group of three arrived for food and refused to give their contact details for tracing as they "refuse to subscribe to the new world order". You'd think this sounds like the kind of sh*t you'd hear some YouTuber in his 20's on about, but these people were in their 70's at least! In fact one of them complained to me that he's been "coming to this hotel for over 80 years and this had never happened before". I said that this global pandemic had never happened before, but he said "it's all over, and they have ye wearing masks". They left after that, but not after complaining to one of the managers that the government want to vaccinate us all and "we'll be dead two weeks later".

Stop the world, I want to get off.

Sorry to hear that. In my experience, it's the older people not wearing masks and my older work colleagues are first to say Covid is big fuss over nothing. I think the change scares them as they can relate to a similar experience and it's usually not socially acceptable to tell an older, "wiser" person that they are not correct.

It's been hard not to give my nana/granda a hug since March and they'd still greet me looking for one, and even harder to explain it to them. I can't imagine how scared they are.

It's a long way from over, we need more personal responsibility than government officials giving instructions but that's not coming anytime soon.

spookwoman · 13-08-2020 09:11AM

eagle eye wrote: »

There's more people posting about things being fine, no concerns regarding children going back to school and lots of other dreamy fairweather stuff without any backup.

The same people can't back up their claims that covid does not cause long term effects.

At this point I would gladly see the feral children back to school, might get some peace and quite

petes · 13-08-2020 09:16AM

spookwoman wrote: »

The same people can't back up their claims that covid does not cause long term effects.

At this point I would gladly see the feral children back to school, might get some peace and quite

This again, you can't back up claims that it does either. No one can prove it either way as it simply hasn't been long enough.

Plumbthedepths · 13-08-2020 09:27AM

spookwoman wrote: »

The same people can't back up their claims that covid does not cause long term effects.

At this point I would gladly see the feral children back to school, might get some peace and quite

How do you back up long term effects without a long term study'. Long term studies do not take place over the course of 6 months, roughly how long the virus is with us.

robbiezero · 13-08-2020 09:27AM

Myramar wrote: »

OK.
Colour Coded Warning System!
Breaking News! Donnelly really excited about it.Varadkar-A lot of work being put into it.

Jesus, Can they stop behaving like we are children - Please!

Just more nonsense to completely ignore.

caveat emptor · 13-08-2020 09:45AM

eagle eye wrote: »

There's more people posting about things being fine, no concerns regarding children going back to school and lots of other dreamy fairweather stuff without any backup.

Denile is not just a big river in Egypt.

13-08-2020 09:58AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

How do you back up long term effects without a long term study'. Long term studies do not take place over the course of 6 months, roughly how long the virus is with us.

There was an interesting one here in the last couple of days where it was posted about long term fatigue and shortness of breath associated with having covid. It was pointed out by someone that shortness of breath and fatigue is a common medium term side affect of Pneumonia. Without any hint of understanding, "proof" was reported that Pneumonia side affects were not long term in the form of an information sheet saying you can expect up to 6 months recovery from Pneumonia! 13th Aug - 6 months = 13th Feb!

On another note, my own mother-in-law got pneumonia over 50 years ago as a teenager, and still suffers ill effects. It wasn't Covid, and it didn't stop her having 6 children and 11 grandchildren

Boggles · 13-08-2020 10:11AM

Haven't people lost limbs and organs due to Covid?

I'd call that pretty long term, unless people think legs can grow back.

TomSweeney · 13-08-2020 10:14AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Things are not fine. It’s a catastrophe. Any time I hear someone being positive about this horrific situation I bring them right back down to earth and remind them just how grave it is and that we need to hold firm to stay safe as we are in it together.

Yes, we should keep the schools closed till at least September 2022.

Full lockdown again across the whole nation - just to be safe, only allowed out to get food or go to doctors.

Dr. Bre · 13-08-2020 10:15AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

My friend Geoffrey (haven’t seen Geoff since March) had a really bad eye twitch combined with pica, long term vegan craving “salad” burgers , turns out he had the Covid. That’s what makes this lethal virus so bone chillingly terrifying...people seem to be presenting with every symptom in the book. Anything could be the Covid including hair and limb loss as you say. Absolutely petrified thinking about it.

Stay at home

Ineedaname · 13-08-2020 10:29AM

spookwoman wrote: »

The same people can't back up their claims that covid does not cause long term effects.

That doesn't make sense. There's no onus to prove no long term effects.

13-08-2020 10:34AM

Boggles wrote: »

Haven't people lost limbs and organs due to Covid?

I'd call that pretty long term, unless people think legs can grow back.

Here are some articles of the impact of severe influenza on the cardiovascular system, including the generation of clots, causing Thrombosis which can result in amputation

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17122443/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4947825/

Not claiming Covid is not more serious the seasonal flu, or underplaying individual complications. Just pointing out , again, the impacts seen with covid are not unusual relative to other conditions that trigger serious pneumonia.

Ineedaname · 13-08-2020 10:34AM

Boggles wrote: »

Haven't people lost limbs and organs due to Covid?

I'd call that pretty long term, unless people think legs can grow back.

I dont think anyone is disputing that some are left with long term effects. The issue is how common they are.

Some say most will make a full recovery. Some say most will be left with life long issues. The truth is most likely somewhere in the middle.

Time will tell

eagle eye · 13-08-2020 10:37AM

petes wrote:

This again, you can't back up claims that it does either. No one can prove it either way as it simply hasn't been long enough.

There's no proof of any sort that vaping harms the user or others who breath in their exhalations. The government decided to ban vaping in buildings.

Why would something be banned like that? To keep people safe maybe?

Now we have a virus that we don't fully understand yet which has killed people and we are being told to take a chance?

Are we dealing with hypocrites?

Paddygreen · 13-08-2020 10:42AM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Stay at home

I’ve considered never leaving the house again. I saw the trailer for the return Fair City there yesterday and it gives me hope for the future. All the right messages seem to be there along with the entertainment. RTE is great comfort to me during this crisis, the warm and familiar faces of its personalities have kept me going for months.

ShyMets · 13-08-2020 10:42AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Things are not fine. It’s a catastrophe. Any time I hear someone being positive about this horrific situation I bring them right back down to earth and remind them just how grave it is and that we need to hold firm to stay safe as we are in it together.

100% agree Paddy. We're so fu*ked are sh*ts about to turn white

Boggles · 13-08-2020 10:45AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not claiming Covid is not more serious the seasonal flu

I'm confused, you say the flu can cause long term effects but you are skeptical about Covid?

shinzon · 13-08-2020 10:54AM

Ineedaname wrote: »

That doesn't make sense. There's no onus to prove no long term effects.

Huh so theres no onus to prove the long term effects of covid, what about coming up with specific treatments that might help people cope with the long term effects of it.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Shin

Boggles · 13-08-2020 10:54AM

Ineedaname wrote: »

I dont think anyone is disputing that some are left with long term effects. The issue is how common they are.

Some say most will make a full recovery. Some say most will be left with life long issues. The truth is most likely somewhere in the middle.

Jesus I hope not, hopefully the truth is the vast minority are left with some sort of issues.

13-08-2020 10:57AM

Boggles wrote: »

I'm confused, you say the flu can cause long term effects but you are skeptical about Covid?

No, I am saying long term effects, in a small percentage of people who get the virus are to be expected, given the serious nature of the disease in some people. It does not mean your life is likely ruined if you get covid however, for the average person.

Dufflecoat Fanny · 13-08-2020 10:57AM

I heard the Intel construction site in Maynooth is closed because of covid. Approximately 1000 workers there

Ineedaname · 13-08-2020 10:58AM

shinzon wrote: »

Huh so theres no onus to prove the long term effects of covid, what about coming up with specific treatments that might help people cope with the long term effects of it.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Shin

That's not even close to what I said.

drunkmonkey · 13-08-2020 10:59AM

Dufflecoat Fanny wrote: »

I heard the Intel construction site in Maynooth is closed because of covid. Approximately 1000 workers there

The whole site? A lot of these workers drive from different parts of the country every morning I think, know a few guys go up and down every day.

Non solum non ambulabit · 13-08-2020 11:02AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

I’ve considered never leaving the house again. I saw the trailer for the return Fair City there yesterday and it gives me hope for the future. All the right messages seem to be there along with the entertainment. RTE is great comfort to me during this crisis, the warm and familiar faces of its personalities have kept me going for months.

Love it. You should write a comedy for RTE and send it in. It would certainly be better than most of their output

Ineedaname · 13-08-2020 11:09AM

Boggles wrote: »

Jesus I hope not, hopefully the truth is the vast minority are left with some sort of issues.

The half dozen people I know that got the virus. All of them made a full recovery with no issues. Some took a bit longer than others but they got there in the end.

So based on my admittedly limited experience that does seem to be the case.

Like I said. Time will tell

GooglePlus · 13-08-2020 11:13AM

eagle eye wrote: »

There's no proof of any sort that vaping harms the user or others who breath in their exhalations. The government decided to ban vaping in buildings.

Why would something be banned like that? To keep people safe maybe?

Now we have a virus that we don't fully understand yet which has killed people and we are being told to take a chance?

Are we dealing with hypocrites?

Vaping is a personal choice that you shouldn't impose on others, so I agree with the indoor ban. Some of those vapes are more like disco smoke machines.

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