2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Danzy wrote: »

Biden has decades of debate experience so while he may not fully understand the current situation he may be in, he'll still have the stock answers, that may be enough. If he has an episode on camera he may destroy himself.

If he starts rambling he could destroy his campaign.

Joe's campaign is successful when Joe's team runs it, Joe's campaign goes pair shaped when Joe talks.

Another idiotic dig ffs

American republicans are perplexed by facing an old white man. They can't attack his race or gender, all they've got left is age which is laughable given the incumbents age. I guess Harris is a great choice for VP, as they can foam at the mouth over both her race and gender, leaving Biden hopefully distanced from the sh*t throwing orgy. What a depressing state.

Rjd2 wrote: »

This is a really good post.

Biden is not as sharp as he once was for sure, but unless Biden collapses on stage then plenty will be watching the debates going "he's not that bad ffs"...


On 2016 yep agreed, Clinton beat him up on policy so much I nearly felt bad for him, but the most played clip for many was "you'd be in jail" line from trump. It was bollocks with no substance, but that stuck with Joe Public much more so than Clinton debating policy forensically. Trust me their was plenty of soft Trump voters who loved that line.


Sucks obviously but that's the world we live in.

I personally never understood the whole "Trump won the debates" thing. He never debated, he through out catchphrases and soundbites that you'd expect to hear at a WWE match with the usual slack jawed yokels heckling and cheering him on as he takes on "the man".

Hilary was foolish and let Trump take control of things, but he never really debated anything. Just gave the clapping seals some fish and loved the cheers he got.

To this day I am absolutely baffled that people seriously thought he cared about being President other than for the glory of saying he was president.

Sonics2k wrote: »

Just to quash it now, before the usual suspects show up with hearsay.

She did not call him a racist but she did rightfully call out some of his previous work, namely around busing students.

Which it was later shown that she largely agreed with it when questioned about it.

May have been asked before, but how many on here will have a vote for November?

I will myself, though in a state that Biden will carry easily.

The disarray from Republicans on their attacks on Kamala Harris are something. Nevermind Trump, who less than 2 weeks ago when asked specifically about her said nothing derogatory about her, he said she’d be a “fine choice”

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-trump-says-kamala-harris-would-be-a-fine-choice-as-joe-bidens-running-mate/

Whereas when she was announced he called her “nasty” and “disrespectful” and “horrible”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/08/11/trump-repeatedly-calls-kamala-harris-nasty-and-horrible-in-white-house-briefing/amp/

More tangible disarray can be seen across the gamut, with Republicans unsure whether to say that her pick “burned Bernie bros” because she’s a Wall Street loyalist with no principles, or if her being so far left and liberal means the Bernistas have taken over Bidens campaign:

https://twitter.com/hawleymo/status/1293363881314852864?s=21

https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1293287491802484741?s=21

https://twitter.com/gopchairwoman/status/1293284496293466113?s=21

But within hours the RNC said the opposite in an email saying liberals were “in revolt” of the ticket:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1293368972046487552?s=21

Tucker Carlson on his show went completely bonkers too calling her a special interest hawk:

“[Susan] Rice is a hardened partisan,” Carlson said of another top VP contender who was passed over. “But she is not stupid, and more to the point, Rice has sincere beliefs whether you like them or not — and we don’t. But Kamala D. Harris is the opposite of that. Harris may be the single most transactional human being in America. If you’re choosing a presidential nominee, you think you’d want someone with a built-in constituency, a base of passionate voters you can count on Election Day. But as it turns out, that is the last thing the leaders of the modern Democratic Party wanted. They already had a candidate like that, in fact, his name was Bernie Sanders, and they did everything they could to stop him. Voters may not like Kamala D. Harris, but Wall Street does — just in case you’re wondering who is actually in charge.”

The RNC also can’t decide how to attack her record as a prosecutor, in the past she was “too tough” on crime, and now and RNC statement says she’d be too lenient on crime:

“Phony Kamala will abandon her own morals, as well as try to bury her record as a prosecutor, in order to appease the anti-police extremists controlling the Democrat Party.”

They have some serious doublethink issues to overcome in the last 82 days of this race. Pretty clear though her pick cuts the legs off Trumps scaremongering about “Bidens America” being a lawless wasteland - narrated over images of Trumps America

da_miser wrote: »

She is fake, LARPING as a African American Christian to try get them to vote for her, that did not work out well for African Americans when she had power in California did it?
She has jailed many African Americans, while she and her White Jewish family know nothing of what it is to be African American.
Fool me ones shame on you , fool me twice shame on me, African Americans have been taken for granted by the Dems, i dont see them falling for it this time, big mistake picking her.
Absolute Trump victory in November, the middle are sick of the Dems pandering to the Antifa types, both black and white want law and order, Kamela wont get the black vote, it will be a Trump landslide, no doubt about it.

its been said already, she is a republicans wet dream but I think you are missing the point.

Rjd2 wrote: »

Its what clicks with the masses which is more important. Policy debate sadly is irrelevant in America compared to snappy one liners.



He's the worst of the worst. I wanted Bernie to win, but he allowing King on his campaign was a terrible error, total and utter grifter.

i agree, I donated to Bernie and I donate to the Intercept, but he is a constant embarrassment and a fraud.

Biden and Harris just gone live now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=324akR35czE

Biden totally looking senile here. Ffs.
He’s a calming figure.
He’s speaking sense.

Sean.3516 wrote: »

Biden/Biden's advisors (whoever made this decision) have made a serious mistake picking Kamala.

Her being VP opens up MANY new lines of attack for Trump. Especially since most voters believe she will succeed Biden within 4 years if he wins. She's a much easier person to run against. She's not a moderate. She's a leftie who's managed to bill herself as a moderate by taking more positions than are in the Kama Sutra and being all things to all people.

Such a bad decision. All Biden had to do was pick Susan Rice or Amy Klobuchar and he would have won in a landslide. He needs someone to cement his "moderate" credentials since that's the only thing he's running on. He's meant to be the "back to normalcy" candidate.

The election is now Trump V Harris which is far more favourable to Trump.

Harris makes zero difference really. Those outraged at the idea of a black woman of colour being anywhere near power were diehard ride or die Trumpian Acolytes anyway.

Its just means the world can enjoy Trump and his disciples disgrace themselves some more when they fixate on her gender/colour making her unelectable.