Leroy42 wrote: » This Biden will not debate or will drop out reminds me of the way the Dems through about Trump in 2016. THey were sure HC would destroy him in the debates and he would drop out. Of course we all know that since they set the expectations so low, anything other than a total disaster was then used by Trump to proclaim he had actually won the debates. Are the GOP falling into the same trap. By building up Bidens apparent mental issues, if he comes out even relatively sane and together this will blow a massive hole in their campaign strategy. Basically all Biden has to do to continue to lead is not die or mentally collapse. WHich to be fair both candidates run the risk of given the virus and their age.
Danzy wrote: » Biden has decades of debate experience so while he may not fully understand the current situation he may be in, he'll still have the stock answers, that may be enough. If he has an episode on camera he may destroy himself. If he starts rambling he could destroy his campaign. Joe's campaign is successful when Joe's team runs it, Joe's campaign goes pair shaped when Joe talks.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Another idiotic dig ffs
Penn wrote: » I think the bet is based on if Biden got Covid-19 and died or was debilitated enough that he had to give up the nomination so Harris becomes the nominee. It is an outside possibility given his age and the amount of travelling, meeting people etc that will happen as part of the campaign. I'm sure there'll be daily tests for everyone close to him and people he's due to meet, but it is still a possibility.
Rjd2 wrote: » This is a really good post. Biden is not as sharp as he once was for sure, but unless Biden collapses on stage then plenty will be watching the debates going "he's not that bad ffs"... On 2016 yep agreed, Clinton beat him up on policy so much I nearly felt bad for him, but the most played clip for many was "you'd be in jail" line from trump. It was bollocks with no substance, but that stuck with Joe Public much more so than Clinton debating policy forensically. Trust me their was plenty of soft Trump voters who loved that line. Sucks obviously but that's the world we live in.
Sonics2k wrote: » Just to quash it now, before the usual suspects show up with hearsay.She did not call him a racist but she did rightfully call out some of his previous work, namely around busing students.
Eric Cartman wrote: » I think any path to a Biden victory is going to have to exclude Florida. With the proportion of elderly and Jews in Florida Im going to solidly commit that to Donald Trump. One of the first elections in a while where that won't be a swing state.
da_miser wrote: » With the money in the bank with the Kamala VP winning bet, i just had to go for it, at worst i only make €10 on it. There is no doubt in my mind Joe is fading mentally, his handlers are doing everything to keep him from the public eye, he only comes out of his basement to do puff piece easy interviews and he still does not look good. He will be totally exposed in a debate, the Dems cant let that happen, if he dont debate, the Dems become a laughing stock and a fraud, so i can see Joe "catching" Covid19 and stepping aside to let Kamela take the Dems nomination, we will find out soon enough, but the odds where too tempting, 25/1 up to 28/1with a power up, i had to gamble. €1450 coming my way if i'm correct and only €10 profit if i'm wrong.Mod: Quit it with the betting soundbites.
The Unbearables wrote: » There is no way in hell Joe Biden isn't suffering from some form of memory loss or possibly worse. It's really bad management from the Dems to be putting him forward but I still think they will somehow get him out of the debates.
Sonics2k wrote: » I personally never understood the whole "Trump won the debates" thing. He never debated, he through out catchphrases and soundbites that you'd expect to hear at a WWE match with the usual slack jawed yokels heckling and cheering him on as he takes on "the man".
statesaver wrote: » The state of this eejithttps://twitter.com/SydneyLWatson/status/1293349799039832064
timsey tiger wrote: » Which it was later shown that she largely agreed with it when questioned about it.
da_miser wrote: » She is fake, LARPING as a African American Christian to try get them to vote for her, that did not work out well for African Americans when she had power in California did it? She has jailed many African Americans, while she and her White Jewish family know nothing of what it is to be African American. Fool me ones shame on you , fool me twice shame on me, African Americans have been taken for granted by the Dems, i dont see them falling for it this time, big mistake picking her. Absolute Trump victory in November, the middle are sick of the Dems pandering to the Antifa types, both black and white want law and order, Kamela wont get the black vote, it will be a Trump landslide, no doubt about it.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » The sad thing is that many die hard R voters will only see this and will have no interest in her accomplishments.
Rjd2 wrote: » Its what clicks with the masses which is more important. Policy debate sadly is irrelevant in America compared to snappy one liners. He's the worst of the worst. I wanted Bernie to win, but he allowing King on his campaign was a terrible error, total and utter grifter.
Sonics2k wrote: » Not being a smart ass here, but I've looked around and can't find much on that, if anything. Can you link a source on it? I know they did the usual candidate back and forth, but not anything where she actually called him a racist.
Sean.3516 wrote: » Biden/Biden's advisors (whoever made this decision) have made a serious mistake picking Kamala. Her being VP opens up MANY new lines of attack for Trump. Especially since most voters believe she will succeed Biden within 4 years if he wins. She's a much easier person to run against. She's not a moderate. She's a leftie who's managed to bill herself as a moderate by taking more positions than are in the Kama Sutra and being all things to all people. Such a bad decision. All Biden had to do was pick Susan Rice or Amy Klobuchar and he would have won in a landslide. He needs someone to cement his "moderate" credentials since that's the only thing he's running on. He's meant to be the "back to normalcy" candidate. The election is now Trump V Harris which is far more favourable to Trump.
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