Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

MickyPearse · 10-08-2020 11:04pm

MrFlashy92 wrote: »

Everyone here can use Google, yeah Lineker looks like a slimy **** alright, can't say I know anything about him other than that he's Gary's brother and owns those bars. The fact that he likes young woman is creepy alright but doesn't imply any involvement with the cartel as you seem to be suggesting, all those ***** running bars and so on in these big holiday destinations are up to their eyes in it though, everyone knows this.

His brother Gary would be disgusted if he found out Wayne was involved with the K's.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/boxing/gary-lineker-daniel-kinahan-tysonfury-22176012

whodafunk · 10-08-2020 11:08pm

White lighting wrote: »

He's 18 now not a baby anymore. If he wants to be a dickhead and hang around with even bigger dickheads that's on him

I’ve heard it’s known he is trouble and has blown his chance and will play lower league football

fergiesfav · 10-08-2020 11:48pm

Madmax03 wrote: »

His sister has kids with Paul Gray

It's crazy how interwoven that feud is. Cousins on one side, in laws on the other.

MrFlashy92 · 10-08-2020 11:49pm

MickyPearse wrote: »

His brother Gary would be disgusted if he found out Wayne was involved with the K's.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/boxing/gary-lineker-daniel-kinahan-tysonfury-22176012

Based on what I’ve read, I think he’s disgusted with him already, seems to be a shady man anyway

MrFlashy92 · 10-08-2020 11:52pm

whodafunk wrote: »

I’ve heard it’s known he is trouble and has blown his chance and will play lower league football

Makes sense that it’s known if we consider that Mourinho spoke to him about his attitude earlier in the season during a period when Spurs were in a bad way for firepower up front due to injuries and Parrott still didn’t play afterwards

hatrickpatrick · 11-08-2020 1:54am

Muahahaha wrote: »

Thanks for the links on Dunsink, I knew I had heard of the council trying to get them of public land. From the Indo link

Absolute madness to be paying travellers millions to vacate land they dont even own. The squatters rights thing is a red herring- you have to sit on public land undisturbed for 30 years before you can claim squatters rights and even then all the council have to do is set food on the land, put a padlock on a gate and the 30 year clock gets reset back to zero.

Other posters said it used to be landfill but its clear the council want to use it for development. Its crazy theres acres and acres of fields there inside the M50 lying unused and the council giving travellers millions in the 'hope' they might move on. What a joke.

I don't know much about the area, hence the question, but I do know that immediately south of Dunsink Lane is another lane called Scribblestown Lane, and that the area bordered by Ratoath Road, the Navan Road, Cappagh Road, the M50 and Dunksink Lane is known as the "murder triangle" among crime journalists almost exclusively because this one lane, Scribblestown, was apparently used repeatedly to dump the bodies of murder or torture victims from gangland feuds going all the way back to the man Cotton Eyed Joe was convicted fo murdering in the 90s - possibly even earlier.

When an area has that kind of reputation, I'm honestly not sure any kind of gentrification attempt can persuade people who know about it that it could become somewhere that would be safe to live. The entire area is just poisoned with well known stories of death and violence. It's a bit like when they built Herberton on St. Anthony's Road in Rialto, which was launched with such incredible fanfare, but its reputation from the Fatima days never went away which meant that people were talked out of moving there before they'd even looked around (plenty of reviews from tourists online who talk about how when they asked a taxi driver to drop them off at St. Anthony's Road, they'd be asked why they'd be staying in the most dangerous part of Dublin and taxis would refuse to actually drive on to that road to peoples' front doors) - these suspicions unfortunately seem to have been proved accurate when those poor German students were murdered by a couple of local scrotes for having the temerity to sit out on their balcony having a couple of beers and talk back to the usual street heckling.

In that context, how much hope is there to redevelop an area like that around Dunsink and Scribblestown without the reputation as a gangland black spot permanently sinking any chance of building a viable community of people who want to live there? It just seems like the kind of place where prospective renters or buyers are going to run a million miles just after doing one quick Google search. Renaming the area doesn't seem to work, as evidenced by the fact that Herberton's reputation is still blackened by Fatima's shadow, and many other rebranded and redeveloped crime hotspots are similarly still haunted by their past.

Not saying it's impossible, wondering if anyone else has a view as to how possible it can be? Could the "murder triangle" be turned into a viable residential development which wasn't seen as somewhere people wanted to save up and get the hell out of as quickly as possible, thus leading to constant resident turnover and thus a total lack of local community?

11-08-2020 2:45am

as someone who spent some time living just down from st anthonys rd, id say its possible

youd just need to clear out the incumbents and raze everything to the ground and build from scratch, and not let them back in

go back far enough theres dark deeds everywhere

MTKcleaners · 11-08-2020 7:13am

MickyPearse wrote: »

His brother Gary would be disgusted if he found out Wayne was involved with the K's.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/boxing/gary-lineker-daniel-kinahan-tysonfury-22176012

Gary has always tried to help and defend his brother, it is a blood thing, but sometimes blood is not enough to get someone to listen, WL is up his own rear and likes to think of himself as a godfather, knew him from years ago in Portugal, he was a badd one then, and even worse now, he is rolling in the K cash.

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 7:24am

MTKcleaners wrote: »

Gary has always tried to help and defend his brother, it is a blood thing, but sometimes blood is not enough to get someone to listen, WL is up his own rear and likes to think of himself as a godfather, knew him from years ago in Portugal, he was a badd one then, and even worse now, he is rolling in the K cash.

More waffle

Hodors Appletart · 11-08-2020 8:06am

Just on the ex-landfill acreage. Apparently you can't build on ex-landfill areas until 40 years have passed since it was last used. I definitely know it was still in use well into the 80s so a few years left yet. A quick drive around the area and you start to notice these weird white poles that look a bit like tall skinny mushrooms - they are outlets for the methane which is still being emitted from the landfill.

Also it is known that not only DCC but private delevopers have also paid off the families there.

Thesiger · 11-08-2020 8:27am

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don't know much about the area, hence the question, but I do know that immediately south of Dunsink Lane is another lane called Scribblestown Lane, and that the area bordered by Ratoath Road, the Navan Road, Cappagh Road, the M50 and Dunksink Lane is known as the "murder triangle" among crime journalists almost exclusively because this one lane, Scribblestown, was apparently used repeatedly to dump the bodies of murder or torture victims from gangland feuds going all the way back to the man Cotton Eyed Joe was convicted fo murdering in the 90s - possibly even earlier.

When an area has that kind of reputation, I'm honestly not sure any kind of gentrification attempt can persuade people who know about it that it could become somewhere that would be safe to live. The entire area is just poisoned with well known stories of death and violence. It's a bit like when they built Herberton on St. Anthony's Road in Rialto, which was launched with such incredible fanfare, but its reputation from the Fatima days never went away which meant that people were talked out of moving there before they'd even looked around (plenty of reviews from tourists online who talk about how when they asked a taxi driver to drop them off at St. Anthony's Road, they'd be asked why they'd be staying in the most dangerous part of Dublin and taxis would refuse to actually drive on to that road to peoples' front doors) - these suspicions unfortunately seem to have been proved accurate when those poor German students were murdered by a couple of local scrotes for having the temerity to sit out on their balcony having a couple of beers and talk back to the usual street heckling.

In that context, how much hope is there to redevelop an area like that around Dunsink and Scribblestown without the reputation as a gangland black spot permanently sinking any chance of building a viable community of people who want to live there? It just seems like the kind of place where prospective renters or buyers are going to run a million miles just after doing one quick Google search. Renaming the area doesn't seem to work, as evidenced by the fact that Herberton's reputation is still blackened by Fatima's shadow, and many other rebranded and redeveloped crime hotspots are similarly still haunted by their past.

Not saying it's impossible, wondering if anyone else has a view as to how possible it can be? Could the "murder triangle" be turned into a viable residential development which wasn't seen as somewhere people wanted to save up and get the hell out of as quickly as possible, thus leading to constant resident turnover and thus a total lack of local community?

Definitely not impossible, they built the IFSC on top of the old Sheriff St flats, reduced Sheriff St to basically a cul-de-sac.

Madmax03 · 11-08-2020 8:46am

fergiesfav wrote: »

It's crazy how interwoven that feud is. Cousins on one side, in laws on the other.

They were all friends at one stage

Madmax03 · 11-08-2020 8:52am

MTKcleaners wrote: »

Gary has always tried to help and defend his brother, it is a blood thing, but sometimes blood is not enough to get someone to listen, WL is up his own rear and likes to think of himself as a godfather, knew him from years ago in Portugal, he was a badd one then, and even worse now, he is rolling in the K cash.

This is bull**** . I know Wayne and yes he might be sleazy but he is NOT rolling in K cash . Yes the Byrnes and Sines might go to Ocean Beach on the regular but they have homes over in Ibiza and might go to Ocean for a day here and there , then share their snaps on their accounts . The are known to splash the cash and show off online . Gary and Wayne don't talk !

ElZee · 11-08-2020 9:14am

Is there any actual fued going on in Balgriggan or is it just big groups of blacks killing each other because they're from different estates?

rodmn2377 · 11-08-2020 9:18am

fergiesfav wrote: »

It's crazy how interwoven that feud is. Cousins on one side, in laws on the other.

Its mad...I'm nearly sure trevor byrne is nathan coakleys hutch kids godfather...

giles lynchwood · 11-08-2020 9:32am

With WL's nose he'd need a cartel behind him

MTKcleaners · 11-08-2020 9:42am

Madmax03 wrote: »

This is bull**** . I know Wayne and yes he might be sleazy but he is NOT rolling in K cash . Yes the Byrnes and Sines might go to Ocean Beach on the regular but they have homes over in Ibiza and might go to Ocean for a day here and there , then share their snaps on their accounts . The are known to splash the cash and show off online . Gary and Wayne don't talk !

So have definately hit a sensitive nerve, anyway we shall all see what happens later when the NCA bring it all down. :rolleyes:

Tacitus Kilgore · 11-08-2020 9:47am

ElZee wrote: »

Is there any actual fued going on in Balgriggan or is it just big groups of blacks killing each other because they're from different estates?

Not a feud, no killings either.

Just a bunch of lads beating each other because they're from different areas.

It's been going all over since god wore short pants, the only thing that has changed is skin colour.

MickyPearse · 11-08-2020 11:36am

rodmn2377 wrote: »

Its mad...I'm nearly sure trevor byrne is nathan coakleys hutch kids godfather...

Thats crazy if true! Which Hutch murders is TB expected of being involved in?

LollipopJimmy · 11-08-2020 11:49am

MTKcleaners wrote: »

So have definately hit a sensitive nerve, anyway we shall all see what happens later when the NCA bring it all down. :rolleyes:

I would have thought that saying Wayne is involved would be like saying Ronald McDonald is involved if they were spotted munching a big mac

Madmax03 · 11-08-2020 11:51am

MTKcleaners wrote: »

So have definately hit a sensitive nerve, anyway we shall all see what happens later when the NCA bring it all down. :rolleyes:

No , didn't touch a nerve . If you are going to share information on a public forum at least share true information.
You're starting to sound like The Whistleblower

Eyes1 · 11-08-2020 12:16pm

MickyPearse wrote: »

Thats crazy if true! Which Hutch murders is TB expected of being involved in?

Definitely Neddy Hutch & Kingsize

White lighting · 11-08-2020 12:17pm

MickyPearse wrote: »

Thats crazy if true! Which Hutch murders is TB expected of being involved in?

Eddie Hutch anyway. He is currently on remand after been caught with a gun when he returned to Ireland to try shoot Nathan Hutch

rodmn2377 · 11-08-2020 12:20pm

Tgey say he was definitely involved in eddie and wasnt he supposed to be back to kill nathan as he was just out when he was picked up in clondalkin.. them boys were all mates back in the day..

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 12:21pm

Madmax03 wrote: »

No , didn't touch a nerve . If you are going to share information on a public forum at least share true information.
You're starting to sound like The Whistleblower

Spot on, seems like that guy just parrots the whistleblower, he had never mentioned Wayne Lineker until the whistleblower had. Let’s be real, no one in Dublin is really calling DK Cancer and I don’t know if people have been using ‘beak’ for patsy since I left the country but I doubt it, maybe scouse imports or these wannabe English roadman teenagers.

I still can’t get over him saying that he had it on good word that Kinahan was priming capper to take over Finglas after clipping ears, absolute waffle. Makes these vague statements, something like “now I wonder who they could have been working for folks, nod and wink

” after a large heroin seizure as if to imply he knows this stuff first hand. Called me sticky Vicky a number of times despite my obviously not being her. Pure trolling. I suspect he is @32counties1 on Twitter, whoever that is has a hard on for the whistleblower and their spelling and grammar mistakes are very obviously intentional, trying to mimic the other page essentially.

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 12:24pm

rodmn2377 wrote: »

Its mad...I'm nearly sure trevor byrne is nathan coakleys hutch kids godfather...

I have heard this too, fairly sure that’s spot on, TB is a psycho anyway. Anyone know what happened to DS that was lifted with him at that gaf, name never mentioned in the paper over it as far as I know but was definitely him, the two of them had been smoking Bobby together before they got nicked I heard

Eyes1 · 11-08-2020 12:32pm

MrFlashy92 wrote: »

Spot on, seems like that guy just parrots the whistleblower, he had never mentioned Wayne Lineker until the whistleblower had. Let’s be real, no one in Dublin is really calling DK Cancer and I don’t know if people have been using ‘beak’ for patsy since I left the country but I doubt it, maybe scouse imports or these wannabe English roadman teenagers.

I still can’t get over him saying that he had it on good word that Kinahan was priming capper to take over Finglas after clipping ears, absolute waffle. Makes these vague statements, something like “now I wonder who they could have been working for folks, nod and wink ” after a large heroin seizure as if to imply he knows this stuff first hand. Called me sticky Vicky a number of times despite my obviously not being her. Pure trolling. I suspect he is @32counties1 on Twitter, whoever that is has a hard on for the whistleblower and their spelling and grammar mistakes are very obviously intentional, trying to mimic the other page essentially.

Let it go

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 12:34pm

MTKcleaners wrote: »

So in a nutshell, cancer is trying to deflect all the attention onto the thickhead LB, and then hang him out to dry like he did with bomber.

This, for example, so farfetched. Who would come to this conclusion other than someone who doesn’t have a clue, I just don’t know

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 12:34pm

Eyes1 wrote: »

Let it go

Yeah you’re right pal, last I’ll say on that

rodmn2377 · 11-08-2020 12:41pm

All them ladswoukd have done time together on the same landing in the jails even some doubled up together.. they would have done jobs together,bought drugs off each other so would have been right tight..

I remember hearing after the Regency that keith murtagh was pleading his innocence to everyone..he got onto a middleman and met him to try and sort things with the other side and organised a meet in a cafe on the southsude. When he left he doubled back and your man was straight on the phone and he decided he was being set up to get done..so went on the run then..

headnorth · 11-08-2020 1:39pm

MrFlashy92 wrote: »

I have heard this too, fairly sure that’s spot on, TB is a psycho anyway. Anyone know what happened to DS that was lifted with him at that gaf, name never mentioned in the paper over it as far as I know but was definitely him, the two of them had been smoking Bobby together before they got nicked I heard

Both were named on here when they were caught in the house.

Stevieluvsye · 11-08-2020 1:45pm

With regards Troy, you do understand the regime a pro footballer has these days? Sleep, train, prepare, match ad rinse and repeat. His child hood mates live in Dublin so he is currently resting for pre-season with a trip abroad.

Someone mentioned in this thread of a poor attitude or the likes, Brian Kerr told me he'll be as good if not better than Robbie Keane.

Give the kid a fcuking break and stop speculating

Kaizer Sosa · 11-08-2020 2:01pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

With regards Troy, you do understand the regime a pro footballer has these days? Sleep, train, prepare, match ad rinse and repeat. His child hood mates live in Dublin so he is currently resting for pre-season with a trip abroad.

Someone mentioned in this thread of a poor attitude or the likes, Brian Kerr told me he'll be as good if not better than Robbie Keane.

Give the kid a fcuking break and stop speculating

Parrott's from Buckingham Street and the other boys are from Crumlin, no??

I don't know if his attitude is poor but his decision making is (he's 18). He's a hair away from breaking into a premiership team, as you say he's as good a prospect as Keane was but he's hanging around with these parasites, bringing them around his premier league club and getting them photos with that club's stars (Delle Alli etc). Do you not think that's just plain bad for business and any decent club owner would be scrambling to disassociate themselves with a criminal element bringing on unnecessary bad PR?

As I say, he's 18 and may not be able to see that for himself, but I'm sure he has an agent/advisory team that should be screaming at him to forget those lads numbers asap.

Stevieluvsye · 11-08-2020 2:03pm

Kaizer Sosa wrote: »

Parrott's from Buckingham Street and the other boys are from Crumlin, no??

I don't know if his attitude is poor but his decision making is (he's 18). He's a hair away from breaking into a premiership team, as you say he's as good a prospect as Keane was but he's hanging around with these parasites, bringing them around his premier league club and getting them photos with that club's stars (Delle Alli etc). Do you not think that's just plain bad for business and any decent club owner would be scrambling to disassociate themselves with lads bringing on unnecessary heat.

As I say, he's 18 and may not see that for himself, but I'm sure he has an agent/advisory team that should be screaming at him to forget those lads numbers.

I think some from Crumlin and Blanch, may have schooled with them, not too sure, anyway i agree that his advisory team will soon let him knows what the do's and don'ts are if he wants to make a success of himself

fergiesfav · 11-08-2020 2:13pm

Madmax03 wrote: »

They were all friends at one stage

Have many in NIC stayed on the Hutch side. It seems the majority are on the Kinahan side. Is that because of money, fear or the Hutchs being disliked. Whatever reason the NIC doesn't look like a place where you put your trust in anyone, a real den of thieves!

Muahahaha · 11-08-2020 2:41pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

When an area has that kind of reputation, I'm honestly not sure any kind of gentrification attempt can persuade people who know about it that it could become somewhere that would be safe to live.

Its not gentrification Dunsink Lane needs because there is nothing there in the first place to gentrify. It just needs the Gardai/Council to get the travellers off the public land that they are squatting on while running stolen property through it. Its a joke that the Council would even consider paying them money to leave, dont mind the fact that they have not. Other countries would not tolerate the theft of public land by anybody, they would follow the court process and then end up sending in the army with bulldozers if the squatters dont get off it.

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

Just on the ex-landfill acreage. Apparently you can't build on ex-landfill areas until 40 years have passed since it was last used.

Any ideas what acreage was landfill vs not landfill? Its a massive site inside the M50
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dunsink+Ln,+Northside,+Dublin/@53.3902269,-6.3395779,1431m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48670d79e3e16863:0x79e95c3cf50c7f4f!8m2!3d53.388205!4d-6.3386767

Eyes1 · 11-08-2020 2:52pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Brian Kerr told me he'll be as good if not better than Robbie Keane

Come on man.

Robbie Keane was playing for Wolves as a 17 year old. Scored twice on his debut, top scorer the season after and was playing for Inter Milan at 19/20 alongside Ronaldo, Seedorf, Hakan Sukur, Cordoba, Christian Vieri, Zanetti etc.

Ireland’s record scorer.

Let’s not get carried away here. Troy a good player and done ok in youth and reserve football THATS IT.

His mates are associated with filth that’s all.

Eyes1 · 11-08-2020 2:55pm

fergiesfav wrote: »

Have many in NIC stayed on the Hutch side. It seems the majority are on the Kinahan side. Is that because of money, fear or the Hutchs being disliked. Whatever reason the NIC doesn't look like a place where you put your trust in anyone, a real den of thieves!

The K’s cash have poisoned a community forever more. It’ll never be the same again as the trust has gone.

But...... let’s see who comes out on top in the long game. I’d bet a pretty penny it won’t be the K’s and their traitorous pals.

Stevieluvsye · 11-08-2020 2:58pm

Eyes1 wrote: »

Come on man.

Robbie Keane was playing for Wolves as a 17 year old. Scored twice on his debut, top scorer the season after and was playing for Inter Milan at 19/20 alongside Ronaldo, Seedorf, Hakan Sukur, Cordoba, Christian Vieri, Zanetti etc.

Ireland’s record scorer.

Let’s not get carried away here. Troy a good player and done ok in youth and reserve football THATS IT.

His mates are associated with filth that’s all.

I Didn't say it. Kerr did. I haven't seen enough of him to make that statement

Muahahaha · 11-08-2020 2:58pm

Just on Troy Parrot when Mourinho first arrived at Spurs he said something along the lines that he was extremely talented and it sounded like he would break into the first team. Who knows what went on behind the scenes but a loan to Millwall doesnt sound like great news for his career, its hardly a club known for its top level coaching. Maybe he will shine by getting regular game time, time will tell but if they were loaning him to continue his development a lower table Prem team like Villa or West Ham would have been better for his career.

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 2:58pm

headnorth wrote: »

Both were named on here when they were caught in the house.

Didn’t know that pal, wasn’t on this at the time, he has been convicted before anyway now that I think of it, Deano Smith, what happened to him

Stevieluvsye · 11-08-2020 3:00pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Just on Troy Parrot when Mourinho first arrived at Spurs he said something along the lines that he was extremely talented and it sounded like he would break into the first team. Who knows what went on behind the scenes but a loan to Millwall doesnt sound like great news for his career, its hardly a club known for its top level coaching. Maybe he will shine by getting regular game time, time will tell but if they were loaning him to continue his development a lower table Prem team would been better for his career.

Well if he does have an attitude, playing in Bermondsey will soon make him soon realise he'd want to get his head together. kip of the highest order

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 3:01pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Just on Troy Parrot when Mourinho first arrived at Spurs he said something along the lines that he was extremely talented and it sounded like he would break into the first team. Who knows what went on behind the scenes but a loan to Millwall doesnt sound like great news for his career, its hardly a club known for its top level coaching. Maybe he will shine by getting regular game time, time will tell but if they were loaning him to continue his development a lower table Prem team would been better for his career.

Let’s see how it goes, the Millwall fans seem to be very excited about it and Spurs fans seem to love him too. Look at Kane or Vardy, neither really made noise until they were well in to their 20s, this loan could (and hopefully will) do him a world of good

Stevieluvsye · 11-08-2020 3:03pm

MrFlashy92 wrote: »

Let’s see how it goes, the Millwall fans seem to be very excited about it and Spurs fans seem to love him too. Look at Kane or Vardy, neither really made noise until they were well in to their 20s, this loan could (and hopefully will) do him a world of good

Actually i think Harry knocked a few in for Millwall a few years back on loan

Eyes1 · 11-08-2020 3:11pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I Didn't say it. Kerr did. I haven't seen enough of him to make that statement

Just laying down some facts fella.... potential yea but streets behind Keane already at same age that’s all I’m saying.

Sultan of Bling · 11-08-2020 3:11pm

Agree re dunsink lane.

Water cannons tear gas and if that doesn't work maybe giant loudspeakers playing Daniel o donnell all day endlessly.

Stevieluvsye · 11-08-2020 3:13pm

Eyes1 wrote: »

Just laying down some facts fella.... potential yea but streets behind Keane already at same age that’s all I’m saying.

I agree, and Kerr is full of sh!te anyway and a tosser but in fairness i have seen him regularly at lower league LSL games so i'm sure he has some idea about the game

Mrlouth · 11-08-2020 3:26pm

Eyes1 wrote: »

Definitely Neddy Hutch & Kingsize

Any links to TB

Eyes1 · 11-08-2020 3:35pm

Mrlouth wrote: »

Any links to TB

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/4788779/trevor-byrne-gun-seizure-remanded-custody-bail-postponed/amp/

MrFlashy92 · 11-08-2020 3:36pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Actually i think Harry knocked a few in for Millwall a few years back on loan

True that, just checked there 7 in 22 in the league, decent return for a 19 year old, didn’t realise that loan had been so fruitful

Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

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