Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Wanderer78 wrote: »

keep bloody forgetting to do my hands myself

Easily done. We learned really early on that public health messaging needs to be simple, clear and consistent. It's anything but that now. Lots of people just walk straight past hand sanitiser stations.

road_high wrote:

I’m mid 30s. I look after myself and my own health. I take personal responsibility for it. These foreva lockdowns are absolute tripe and interestingly I’m a lot less in the minority about them too. A lot if people are furious with this futile approach once again

Are they really? Most people i know just take in their stride and try overcome.

What's the ideal approach so?

YellowBucket wrote: »

The Trump administration recently lifted their advisory suggesting that Americans should avoid overseas travel. I suspect that is something to do with that the timing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/06/politics/state-department-level-4-advisory-lifted/index.html

Also rather insanely, the US issued a travel advisory about the dangers to Americans of travel to New Zealand

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=12354666

NZ has banned all non-citizens, so they wouldn't get in anyway unless they had an exemption for some reason.

YellowBucket wrote: »

I know, but it just sums up American attitudes and exceptionalism. They don’t even acknowledge that and see the risk as being foreign and not them.

theyre the greatest society ever, apparently!

road_high wrote:

Those masks proving a rip roaring success aren’t they

What an utterly pointless comment. These outbreaks are associated with clusters in particular settings (work and then at home). We don't know how well these plants are organised in terms of actual regulation (covid-19) management.

You're either trolling or need to look further

YellowBucket wrote: »

I know, but it just sums up American attitudes and exceptionalism. They don’t even acknowledge that and see the risk as being foreign and not them. They’re off assigning risk categories to countries that have almost zero risk at all while having an out of control mess at home.

Yeah of course its typical Trump, everything is smoke and mirrors.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I walk past the sanitisers at shops as well. I don't want to be touching what every dirty hand has touched and I use my own.

Some places have utter ****e in the dispensers as well that make your hands sticky and more likely to pick up dirt. If I can't smell the alcohol it isn't worth anything to me.

Finally going with the same travel lists as the EU by the looks of it.
"Restrictions on non-essential travel are being examined for countries outside the EU/EEA/UK with a high rate of Covid-19. The approach would be aligned with the approach adopted by other EU countries.'

Also further down in the article, I can't see this having worked out well either

"Separately, the Sunday Independent has learned that the Government was last month considering allowing all pubs outside of Dublin, Kildare and Wicklow to reopen from tomorrow under plans to have so-called 'green zones' that would move to phase four of the reopening roadmap before the rest of the country.

The move had political support, but the increase in Covid-19 cases since then has meant the tentative plan was scrapped."

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/us-among-covid-19-hotspots-on-travel-red-list-39434368.html

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I walk past the sanitisers at shops as well. I don't want to be touching what every dirty hand has touched and I use my own.

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Me too, if you have washed/sanitized your hands before you left the house and haven't touched anything bar the interior of your car before going into a shop, I don't see the point of the sanitizer.

As expected, pro-mask people dismiss the importance of good public hygiene because they think they know better...

No matter how clean the interior of a car is, most people don't disinfect them on a daily basis so even they wash their hands before leaving the house, it makes sense to still use hand sanitiser upon entering a premises.

thelad95 wrote: »

Finally a smidgen of actual control over our borders. Although the issue of Americans visiting has been greatly exaggerated. Many hotels in Killarney have come out and said they have not had any North American bookings.

Hopefully now people can examine their own actions and stop blaming everything on the three daily ghost flights Aer Lingus operate from America daily.

Fully agree. People seem to think these flights are full of American tourists and that just isn't the case.

Yes theres probably been some but the portrayal of packed flights was never realistic.

In saying that we should have gone with the same travel lists as the rest of the EU from the outset.

YellowBucket wrote: »

Regionalising it here might make sense more so this autumn and winter as the summer travel dies down, assuming we don’t have a serious second wave.

My preference at this stage would be focus on getting the schools and universities open and then see how it goes.

Opening rural pubs first would make sense and then doing something about limited opening in cities.

Realistically though I think there’s a huge risk if we get back to messy nights and pubs thronged with students and so on.

Open rural pubs first and there'll be flocks down to them, that's a terrible idea.

YellowBucket wrote: »

Going with the same lists as the European guidance also would give us cover against any crazy from Trump.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he took something as a personal slight. He’s got some skin in the game at Dunbeg and is an extremely petty character who takes things personally.

wait till he loses!

GazzaL wrote: »

As expected, pro-mask people dismiss the importance of good public hygiene because they think they know better...

No matter how clean the interior of a car is, most people don't disinfect them on a daily basis

I don't 'disinfect' it but I wipe down the regularly touched surfaces after every journey