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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #8342
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    tom1ie wrote: »
    If a county is in lockdown it should be isolated as best possible from other county’s to prevent spread.
    That’s the idea of isolating a county(s).
    Having horse racing on that attracts people (trainers, horse handlers, jockeys) from other county’s isn’t isolating!

    This is the way it always was even in the height of lockdown, are you suggesting people should be stopped from working.


  • #8343
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    redarmy wrote: »
    Taoiseach has given assurances that inspections at meat factories will be ramped up and are a priority. He said from tomorrow Social Welfare Inspectors will be calling unannounced to these factories to ensure nobody is claiming PUP.

    Seriously, is this their main concern? Shouldn't they be sending health and safety inspectors instead?


  • #8344
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Disgusting posts.

    :pac:


  • #8345
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    i_surge wrote: »
    Totally wrong...12 more months of this will kill the economy and most of the souls within it.

    We need hard action and creativity and to stop the excuses and contradictions.

    ? Most of the souls in it? How?


  • #8346
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    tom1ie wrote: »
    ? Most of the souls in it? How?

    The slow painful decay from living a perpetual half life.

    We want huge parties and Romanesque orgies to feel alive again.


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  • #8347
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,893 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Seriously, is this their main concern? Shouldn't they be sending health and safety inspectors instead?

    I think that poster was making a joke about the government's 'priorities'.


  • #8348
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    niallo27 wrote: »
    This is the way it always was even in the height of lockdown, are you suggesting people should be stopped from working.

    I’m suggesting holding a non essential sport in a restricted county that will attract people from non restricted county’s should be stopped from happening so that potential virus spread will be stopped.
    Are you suggesting putting peoples jobs over the public health?


  • #8349
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I think that poster was making a joke about the government's 'priorities'.

    Ok, hard to understand at times.


  • #8350
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    i_surge wrote: »
    The slow painful decay from living a perpetual half life.

    We want huge parties and Romanesque orgies to feel alive again.

    Ah so you were speaking figuratively.
    Dangerous thing to do when mentioning that in a thread where we are talking about people actually dying.


  • #8351
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    tom1ie wrote: »
    I’m suggesting holding a non essential sport in a restricted county that will attract people from non restricted county’s should be stopped from happening so that potential virus spread will be stopped.

    It is beyond infuriating to have such illogical contradictions to the simple science of covid suppression at every turn.

    That whole Dominic Cummings fiasco in the UK was used as psychological leverage by many to disregard the rules. This could well be the same.


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  • #8352
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Neamhshuntasach wrote: »
    My wife is a doctor in a Dublin hospital. I asked her just now having seen this debate here before and never thought much of it. Anyways my wife confirmed what a suspected case is. There are multiple daily tests taken around the country in a hospital setting from people who don't have any symptoms of covid 19 and are presenting themselves for other medical concerns. Not everyone is offered a test and not everyone when offered takes one. So a suspected case in a hospital is largely made up of people in hospital for other reasons and without covid symptoms. But of course there can be a mixture of people with covid like symptoms too. But the wife believes people without covid symptoms largely outnumber those with them for the pending results of a suspected case. She pointed to times when cases were in single digits but suspected cases were much higher.

    Glad to hear someone else confirm this.

    Hope your wife is keeping well during this.


  • #8353
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Should a local lockdown allow horse racing that will attract people from other county’s into that lockdowned county?

    Would it not be closed and televised on the racing Channel like the Galway Races, if their restaurants/pubs are allowed to continue, of course in these counties.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #8354
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    tom1ie wrote: »
    I’m suggesting holding a non essential sport in a restricted county that will attract people from non restricted county’s should be stopped from happening so that potential virus spread will be stopped.
    Are you suggesting putting peoples jobs over the public health?

    Yes we have to have a balance, either that or everybody go home and lock yourself into your house.


  • #8355
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    tom1ie wrote: »
    As people from counties that aren’t “locked down” have to travel to a “locked down” county to run the horses etc.
    Lol! It’s ridiculous!

    One driver plus one other in the lorry driving horses straight to the Curragh race course.Jockeys stewards etc same thing all travelling to their place of work,then straight home afterwards.No owners or spectators allowed, maybe 200 max.Very safe huge outdoor area.


  • #8356
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,794 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    It's right to lock it down, to catch it before it takes off. Suppression is the only weapon, Cummontity Transmission is the thing to prevent, and we're pretty much achieving this, would be a shame to throw away the progress by ignoring a hot spot.


  • #8357
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    i_surge wrote: »
    It is beyond infuriating to have such illogical contradictions to the simple science of covid suppression at every turn.

    That whole Dominic Cummings fiasco in the UK was used as psychological leverage by many to disregard the rules. This could well be the same.

    Agreed.
    Virus spreads with humans coming into contact with each other (doesn’t have to be close contact as it is spread in aerosol).
    Government located hotspots and announces “lockdowns”.
    Horse racing that brings humans into close proximity goes ahead in lockdown areas thus giving potential to virus spread that government are trying to stop.
    Worse still some humans are from county’s that don’t have issues.
    Humans finish horse racing event and go home potentially infected from hotspots.
    Fella on boards defend horse racing because of “jobs” not realising that if situation gets out of control we could all be properly locked down!!!
    Funny story.


  • #8358
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Agreed.
    Virus spreads with humans coming into contact with each other (doesn’t have to be close contact as it is spread in aerosol).
    Government located hotspots and announces “lockdowns”.
    Horse racing that brings humans into close proximity goes ahead in lockdown areas thus giving potential to virus spread that government are trying to stop.
    Worse still some humans are from county’s that don’t have issues.
    Humans finish horse racing event and go home potentially infected from hotspots.
    Fella on boards defend horse racing because of “jobs” not realising that if situation gets out of control we could all be properly locked down!!!
    Funny story.

    And can we add that the person banging on about jobs is unwise. There will be fewer and fewer profits to pay fewer and fewer employees while the messing around continues. You need to restore consumer confidence if you want to bounce back quickly.


  • #8359
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    One driver plus one other in the lorry driving horses straight to the Curragh race course.Jockeys stewards etc same thing all travelling to their place of work,then straight home afterwards.No owners or spectators allowed, maybe 200 max.Very safe huge outdoor area.

    What if one of the jockeys has the virus and is asymptomatic? What if he gives it to a trainer? Etc etc.
    If an area is locked down it should be locked down.
    This is a slight restriction not a lockdown.
    Wuhan had a lockdown. Do ya think they were horse racing during January?!!


  • #8360
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Agreed.
    Virus spreads with humans coming into contact with each other (doesn’t have to be close contact as it is spread in aerosol).
    Government located hotspots and announces “lockdowns”.
    Horse racing that brings humans into close proximity goes ahead in lockdown areas thus giving potential to virus spread that government are trying to stop.
    Worse still some humans are from county’s that don’t have issues.
    Humans finish horse racing event and go home potentially infected from hotspots.
    Fella on boards defend horse racing because of “jobs” not realising that if situation gets out of control we could all be properly locked down!!!
    Funny story.

    You couldn't make it up eh!

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #8361
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Sounds like Italy, Spain and Germany, at least, are experiencing new cases in areas/towns/provinces that weren’t overly effected before, where there immunity levels are little to none. I know Kildare has been relatively high due to proximity to Dublin, but could we be seeing similar now?


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  • #8362
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Yes we have to have a balance, either that or everybody go home and lock yourself into your house.

    So you are suggesting putting peoples jobs ahead of peoples health yeah?
    Just to be clear.


  • #8363
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    tom1ie wrote: »
    What if one of the jockeys has the virus and is asymptomatic? What if he gives it to a trainer? Etc etc.
    If an area is locked down it should be locked down.
    This is a slight restriction not a lockdown.
    Wuhan has a lockdown. Do ya think they were horse racing during January?!!

    What if what if, has one case come from this industry yet. You do realise life has to go on too and not live terrified. Its not healthy for you.


  • #8364
    Scoondal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    tom1ie wrote: »
    What if one of the jockeys has the virus and is asymptomatic? What if he gives it to a trainer? Etc etc.
    If an area is locked down it should be locked down.
    This is a slight restriction not a lockdown.
    Wuhan has a lockdown. Do ya think they were horse racing during January?!!
    Yes. It could happen. We should do lockdown to stop this lethal disease. Schools opening ? what are they thinking ?


  • #8365
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    tom1ie wrote: »
    So you are suggesting putting peoples jobs ahead of peoples health yeah?
    Just to be clear.

    Yes the fact that no cases have been linked to this industry then I would classify it as safe. Are you suggesting nobody in these 3 counties should go to work just so I am clear.


  • #8366
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Sounds like Italy, Spain and Germany, at least, are experiencing new cases in areas/towns/provinces that weren’t overly effected before, where there immunity levels are little to none. I know Kildare has been relatively high due to proximity to Dublin, but could we be seeing similar now?

    Immunity levels are nowhere near where they need to be to stop spread anywhere in the world.
    We would need 70% to slow/stop spread the only way you get that is vaccine or the virus infecting the population without lockdowns.
    For reference prof Micheal olsterholm reckons 8% of USA nationally has been infected (that’s not to say this guarantees immunity either!)


  • #8367
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What if what if, has one case come from this industry yet. You do realise life has to go on too and not live terrified. Its not healthy for you.

    I have asked others the same. I don't get it, genuinely.

    How do you see the recovery happening?


  • #8368
    Scoondal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Close Schools. I am not sending my children into a corona virus hot house. What is wrong with people ? In 7 days we had 6 cases from just 253,000 population. It's awful.


  • #8369
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    Getting quite annoyed with headlines like this constantly popping up. The echo has been very poor recently. The suspected cases malarkey doesn’t mean they’re all Covid positive as has been said by a few in this thread. All click bait headlines. Are the Irish media being told to publish this as to keep us in check? It just looks like the majority of the media seem as if they cack their pants when cases or deaths are announced and pass that on to us!!
    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Covid-19-latest-new-cases-continue-to-be-identified-in-Cork--d9c9679c-4a42-47f6-b987-3f6ab78b9856-ds


  • #8370
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What if what if, has one case come from this industry yet. You do realise life has to go on too and not live terrified. Its not healthy for you.

    Who’s terrified?! Lol! I’m grand!
    That really is the last remarks of guys who have run out of answers.
    I’m just feeding you a spoonful of realism that’s all.
    I would rather We go with this whack a mole scenario than have a national lockdown, what would you prefer?


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  • #8371
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Just been informed of an English lad living on the south side of the city who has his mates over for the weekend and they are out and about.

    Naturally my friend who is a housemate was not consulted about the visit and is going mad.

    ****. Is there any advice here? She came home to find them drunk having been out today and they will be at the same for the rest of the weekend.


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