Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Strumms wrote: »

He’s a fûcking arsehole, and he made a mess of a job which he was elected and entrusted to do... the mean girls thing isn’t on that level but just shows the direction of the mans thought process in a time of huge uncertainty, danger and fear for the country and it’s citizens... quoting fûcking mean girls, the absolute cünt.

Which politicians or party would have handled the pandemic better?

Morrison J wrote:

Mandatory testing at airports and an agreement with the North to go towards a zero case strategy is our only way out of this and always has been. Our testing isn't good enough to live alongside it. We can't even get through phase 3 smoothly, imagine phase 4.

Because the government and HSE haven't invested in the service.

The NY times reported on Germany testing travellers: "The government invested 200 million euros to expand laboratory capacity, both public and private, as well as personnel and working hours. Today it has the capacity for about 27,000 tests a day, state health minister, Melanie Huml, said.
Test, test, test is the name of the game, she said. Our goal is to recognize infections as quickly as possible to stop chains of infection as early as early as possible.â€

Our laboratories have been underfunded and understaffed for years . Right before lockdown our union was preparing to mandate for strike action.

Then came an entirely new national service that had to be set up from scratch, in a matter of weeks, with the same staff before the crisis. Annual leave was pulled. It is permitted now, which means there's **** all people in for the next 6 weeks as people take time off before their kids go back to school.

This isn't even unique to Ireland. Canada, France are in the same boat. Laboratory staff in the USA were actually fired because they didn't have the money to pay them.

As someone else posted here, the chickens have come home to roost.
You reap what you sow.
There's only so many times you can go to the well before it dries up.

https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1291809899207327745?s=20

Carlow and Dublin close their borders

caveat emptor wrote: »

It's like telling a group of 5 year olds to sit quietly.
It's a nice idea but it's not going to happen.

Every single person needs to do "the right thing" 100% of the time every day.
The virus just needs to right once and you are back o uncontrolled spread.

The only thing is we've never needed 100% compliance to control this.

If enough people do the right thing, we can make up for the feckless.

If the people of LOK accept that the restriction is warranted, and most of them do their best, we can suppress this outbreak. There will always be some gob****e who is now going to deliberately flaunt themselves breaking the restrictions.

Strumms wrote: »

He’s a fûcking arsehole, and he made a mess of a job which he was elected and entrusted to do... the mean girls thing isn’t on that level but just shows the direction of the mans thought process in a time of huge uncertainty, danger and fear for the country and it’s citizens... quoting fûcking mean girls, the absolute cünt.

Don’t feel you have to hold back there or understate your feelings

Look, I’m certainly not going to say he sailed through with flying colours and got everything wonderfully right. I do reckon he got some stuff right. But equally I would 100% agree with you that he got stuff wrong too. I don’t think he made a mess of it all. Nor do I think he did brilliantly with it all. I just don’t see it in absolutes the way you do. What you think of him as a person is up to you. I’m not going to go there, everyone has their own opinion and the right to it. But I commented because I thought it was massively unfair to say one line in a speech shows he was laughing at people dying. It doesn’t and he clearly wasn’t. And no offence to you, but I think it’s also pretty unfair to single one line out and say it shows the direction of his thought process at that time the way you did. As I pointed out in my comment, which you quoted, there are other remarks of his, in speeches and interviews, that might give a very different picture of where and what his thoughts were. If you’re going to say one line represents all of his thoughts and feelings on covid and the people of the country dealing with it, well, you could as well choose any of those quotes, and say they do.

Or, instead of trying to say any one line from a speech does that, you could get a sense of it from looking at a slightly wider picture, because he talked an awful lot- and gave a lot of speeches about- covid over the last months. And pretty much all of them were solemn and serious (including the one with the dumb Mean Girls quote, because the whole of that speech WAS pretty serious stuff apart from that one line), some of them to the point where people were accusing him of being way too dark and grim and fear-inspiring and saying he should be being lighter and giving people more hope. Every single one of them acknowledged what people were going through and struggling with, often more than once. From all of that over those months, I’m inclined to think he took covid and what people were going through far more seriously than you’re giving him credit for.

lukas8888 wrote: »

Of all the posters on this forum your language is constantly appalling,mouth wash time.

Not to mention the moron insulting other posters with “ mentally unwell” and “ arseholes”. What a cesspit of a thread.

Aisha Slimy Trapezoid wrote: »

What your up against is a docile, servile generation of young people who choose to ignore the reality around them and spend most of their time in an alternate reality that is the internet where they believe everything they are told.

You are posting anti vax loons who thinks Google are controlling the weather.

You okay?

Micky 32 wrote: »

Not to mention the moron insulting other posters with “ mentally unwell” and “ arseholes”. What a cesspit of a thread.

There’s really no need for other posters to be attacking posters on this thread.
What’s the point?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Express a bit of realism and understanding that this is something we will live with for a while with outbreaks popping up for the conceivable future, but also with the understanding that deaths and hospitalisations remaining low is indicating we still have a level of control, for the moment but have to have continued vigilance, well that’s the everything is grand crowd, or brigade.

I feel a uniform and flag is needed for this brigade

Hmmmmm sounds like the definition has changed.

lukas8888 wrote: »

Of all the posters on this forum your language is constantly appalling,mouth wash time.

A good dose of hydroxychloroquine with a tincture of bleach might do the trick.