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    #9242
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    HairySalmon wrote: »
    For a presumed €60 and no meaningful future discounts for a 2013 game, a resounding no from me.

    It's already there on the e-store and yup, €60 for as you say, a 2013 game with no appreciable upgrades as far as I can see.


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    #9243
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    pixelburp wrote: »
    It's already there on the e-store and yup, €60 for as you say, a 2013 game with no appreciable upgrades as far as I can see.

    I’d really enjoy the chance to play it since it is supposedly an amazing game. But I wouldn’t pay more than €30 for it at release, and given it’s a first party game, the best you’d get it for in a sale is €40.

    They need to cop on with their pricing for ports because it’s ridiculous.


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    #9244
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Same; I've heard so much good press over the Pikmin games and would love to give 'em a whirl but there's simply no way I'm paying €60 bucks for something inherently last generation. Not even a "remaster" contemporaneous to other games of the era but a quick re-boxing. Nintendo truly gets away with the kind of pricing other companies are regularly (rightly) pilloried for.


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    #9245
    Markitron
    Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    I would have given it a go for 30 quid, maybe 35, but at 60 they can **** off. Maybe we will get lucky and they will put it in their next sale for the low low price of 54.99


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    #9246
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well it's not just a basic port. Has quality of life features and new controls and a new epilogue and ending.

    Honestly you might have a point if you played it already on WiiU but if you haven't it's one of the best games you can play and is a brand new experience for most people.

    Nintendo games almost always hold their price. It's just how they sell their games unlike other companies.
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    #9247
    recyclops
    Registered Users Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭recyclops


    played pikmin 1 and 2 over the last month, beautiful games. never got round to three when i had a wiiU :(


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    #9248
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Well it's not just a basic port. Has quality of life features and new controls and a new epilogue and ending.

    Honestly you might have a point if you played it already on WiiU but if you haven't it's one of the best games you can play and is a brand new experience for most people.

    Nintendo games almost always hold their price. It's just how they sell their games unlike other companies.

    And they're entitled to sell their games however they wish :) however given the value proposition on offer here, €60 for a 7 year old game with minimal improvements feels cheeky. You're obviously a fan 'cos you brought it up; But i look at this and - say - the Link's Awakening remaster, and the two don't match for price points. Nintendo's pricing policy could do with a little scaling IMO as their games are not of a universal level, it's just a constant artificial valuation. Pikmin 3 does not strike as a game trying to recoup major development costs here.

    In any case, I'll keep an eye out for it on Sale ...


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    #9249
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I guess I just don't get people putting a price on games like this. I feel Pikmin 3 is up with the best triple A games that anyone will pick up this year and it didn't sell well on WiiU due to the audience size so for most people this is a brand new game. It's not a straight port either, the costs to recoup from the QA process of course but it takes resources converting a game like this from power PC based architecture.

    Think it's a shame that people will let this experience pass them by due to pricing. It should be based on how much you will enjoy the game.

    Although it makes more sense than people putting value on a game based on length.
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    #9250
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    They are hard games too!

    I really enjoyed Pikmin 3 on Wii U up until a certain point. It went from enjoyable to insanely hard out of nowhere from what I remember.
    The difficulty spike stopped me playing and never got back into it. I'd have to replay it at this stage if I were to ever get back into it.


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    #9251
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I guess I just don't get people putting a price on games like this. I feel Pikmin 3 is up with the best triple A games that anyone will pick up this year and it didn't sell well on WiiU due to the audience size so for most people this is a brand new game. It's not a straight port either, the costs to recoup from the QA process of course but it takes resources converting a game like this from power PC based architecture.

    Think it's a shame that people will let this experience pass them by due to pricing. It should be based on how much you will enjoy the game.

    Although it makes more sense than people putting value on a game based on length.

    It's quite simple (for me) really: I only have so much disposable income so if I buy a video game of any stripe, then I want to be sure that if I drop €60, it'll be worth the money spent given my own personal, nebulous sense of value. I could buy 6 small indie titles that I'd get just as much enjoyment from, without breaking the bank or risking a feeling of money wasted.

    It's totally an emotional decision and happily own it - but also think Nintendo are taking plays from the Apple playbook and inflating their products' value out of brand desirability. Like I said, it feels cheeky but I get what they're doing all the same.


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    #9252
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They are hard games too!

    I really enjoyed Pikmin 3 on Wii U up until a certain point. It went from enjoyable to insanely hard out of nowhere from what I remember.
    The difficulty spike stopped me playing and never got back into it. I'd have to replay it at this stage if I were to ever get back into it.

    Some Pikmin 2 stages were insane as well. Surviving the randomly generated dungeons with enough pikmin to stand a chance against some of the optional bosses was quite the challenge.

    And while the time limit people complained about in Pikmin 1 was never an issue with me, the final boss took a few attempts to take down.
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    #9253
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Nintendo are masters in making money from old rope. Not naive enough to pay full price for their Malibu Stacy with a new hat remakes.
    The speculated Metroid Prime and Mario Trilogies will be better value but Nintendo's reliance on remakes for the Switch really confuses me especially when their studios stopped working on 3DS games years ago.


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    #9254
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    That’s the thing, if it was €60 for all 3 then I’d have no issue with that.

    The crash bandicoot trilogy got fully remastered and retailed for €40.

    Now if the rumoured Mario trilogy is true I’d gladly pay €60 for it.

    I just see no value in charging €60 for a 7 year old game on its own. It seems like daylight robbery.


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    #9255
    Markitron
    Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    HairySalmon wrote: »
    That’s the thing, if it was €60 for all 3 then I’d have no issue with that.

    The crash bandicoot trilogy got fully remastered and retailed for €40.

    Now if the rumoured Mario trilogy is true I’d gladly pay €60 for it.

    I just see no value in charging €60 for a 7 year old game on its own. It seems like daylight robbery.

    That's just it. They are well within their rights to sell it for whatever price they want just as I am well within my rights to think it is a rip-off.


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    #9256
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    https://twitter.com/RocksteadyGames/status/1291720790447136768?s=19


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    #9257
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,547 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    That could be very very interesting!


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    #9258
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I was hoping against all hope they were working on a follow up to Urban Chaos: Riot Response.

    Arkham Knight wasn't a great game and if this is another game with Arkham combat I'll probably miss it unless it buck the trends a lot like the original Arkham Asylum.
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    #9259
    dreamers75
    Registered Users Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    That could be very very interesting!

    A coop Batman......

    Yes actually that would be awesome!


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    #9260
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    From Kinda Funny Games Daily, via WCCFtech;
    Sony Has Reportedly Locked PS5 Timed Exclusivity for Some Huge and Widely Known Multiplats, Imran Khan Says; People “Will Be Shocked”

    Pinch of salt and all that.


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    #9261
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,117 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Going for Supes right away? Walk before you can run, Suicide Squad!

    I like the idea of killing one of the Justice League, someone outside the trinity and expendable like Cyborg, Flash or Aquaman prompting one of the big 3 to go rogue on the Suicide Squad.


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    #9262
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,897 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Mr Crispy wrote: »
    From Kinda Funny Games Daily, via WCCFtech;



    Pinch of salt and all that.

    Timed exclusivity is just complete horse****. I'll just wait, thank you.
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    #9263
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    So basically "The Boys" in gaming form? Ha. I presume Suicide Squad predates the Boys' comic


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    #9264
    recyclops
    Registered Users Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭recyclops


    Mr Crispy wrote: »
    From Kinda Funny Games Daily, via WCCFtech;



    Pinch of salt and all that.

    unless its grand theft auto it wont matter really

    failed fairly bad on tomb raider for MS


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    #9265
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,330 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd much rather Sony put their efforts into improving PS Now rather than buying up timed exclusivity or exclusive DLC.


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    #9266
    Mr Crispy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    EoinMcLovin wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RocksteadyGames/status/1291720790447136768?s=19
    So the rumours were true - "Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League"?
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Timed exclusivity is just complete horse****. I'll just wait, thank you.
    Yep, and according to your man, Sony are going all in on it. :rolleyes:
    recyclops wrote: »
    unless its grand theft auto it wont matter really

    failed fairly bad on tomb raider for MS
    GTA VI, next FF, or Starfield are some of the early rumours.


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    #9267
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,547 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    UFC 4 is on EA Access Trial now. You can search in the store for UFC 4 and you should see a download button. If you like what you play, you can download UFC 3 through ea Access and buy UFC 4 from the main menu for a 20% discount.


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    #9268
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,184 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I really think Rocksteady made big mistakes in the directions they brought the Arkham games down - each game in the series was IMO considerably less interesting than the last. Hope they’ve taken the time to do something very different here: there’s obviously a bunch of great artists and developers there, so let’s hope the sideways step to another DC series is the refresh they needed to get away from the extremely tired open world antics of Arkham Knight.


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    #9269
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,117 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    More Crash 4. Looks gorgeous...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdRZGc1mQkU


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    #9270
    Xenji
    Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    pixelburp wrote: »
    So basically "The Boys" in gaming form? Ha. I presume Suicide Squad predates the Boys' comic

    By nearly 50 years or 20 years for the modern version.


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    #9271
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 28,864 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Though these days they seem to reboot the Suicide Squad every few months.

    Interested to see how it works. Will we be changing between characters when we want or will it be mission based.

    I'm guessing we'll have Harley, Deadshot and Boomerang anyway.


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