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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #8162
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    "Large amount" of asymptomatic cases in these outbreaks


  • #8163
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    "Large amount" of asymptomatic cases in these outbreaks

    Most likely because the meat plants don't draw on the nursing homes for their workforce.


  • #8164
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I'm not talking about citizen or his family.

    I posted exactly what I know from St James. ICU numbers are reported to HSE at 18.30. Its quite simple if you have a paitent awaiting a result of a swab, be it symptoms or not it must be reported as a suspected case. They swab all ICU admissions and all being admitted for procedures.

    Thats direct from an ICU nurse.

    That's ST james and I totally agree with you that all swabs are suspect, what I am trying to put across is not all hospitals are swabbing for the same reasons and therefore we cannot just dismiss the suspect numbers.


  • #8165
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    "Large amount" of asymptomatic cases in these outbreaks

    In one sense that's bad as we know its hard to trace without people having the test and the amount of people that haven't bothered when their indentified as a contact.

    In another sense its good that they've found them and isolated them in this situation


  • #8166
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    "Large amount" of asymptomatic cases in these outbreaks

    Is it still early days to be saying they're asymptomatic? I think I read something about the first cases towards the end of July. Couldn't they still go on to develop symptoms?


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  • #8167
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That's ST james and I totally agree with you that all swabs are suspect, what I am trying to put across is not all hospitals are swabbing for the same reasons and therefore we cannot just dismiss the suspect numbers.

    Everyone who gets a test is a suspected case, whether or not they are in a hospital. That's thousands of suspected cases every day. It matters not a jot unless those tests come back positive.


  • #8168
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Donnelly - master of not answering the question


  • #8169
    SimonTemplar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    This issue will not be resolved until we have full flight and travel bans against a good number of countries.

    The severity of the outbreaks in the midlands is caused by factory working conditions. Travel bans will not mitigate that.


  • #8170
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,046 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Did the thought occur to you that those other posters might be entitled to an opinion, even if it doesn't concur with your clearly God given right to have the correct one?

    Podge I have no problem defending my own view


  • #8171
    Juwwi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Sorry its probably been mentioned already but just heading out didn't read back thread .

    Did they say if the 4 new deaths are new or some old reporting of deaths ?

    thanks


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  • #8172
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    In one sense that's bad as we know its hard to trace without people having the test and the amount of people that haven't bothered when their indentified as a contact.

    In another sense its good that they've found them and isolated them in this situation

    Don't forget the third sense: they haven't dropped down dead.


  • #8173
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That's ST james and I totally agree with you that all swabs are suspect, what I am trying to put across is not all hospitals are swabbing for the same reasons and therefore we cannot just dismiss the suspect numbers.

    What are the other reasons? You've just had accounts from two different hospitals.

    If anything the numbers etc. over the last while correlate to what they are saying in the daily reports .


  • #8174
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am driving from Dublin to Klkenny tomorrow . Can I drive through Kildare on the Motorway without stopping ?

    Uk citizens can’t get out of the car when transiting Belgium from Netherlands or germany.
    I say you can stay in the car.
    I’d say it’s grand if people can freely go for work etc


  • #8175
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Today's 4 deaths are from May, June, July and August


  • #8176
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Uk citizens can’t get out of the car when transiting Belgium or Netherlands.
    I say you can stay in the car.
    I’d say it’s grand if people can freely go for work etc

    As long as you hold your breath for the duration...


  • #8177
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    So how did these meat factories get through the first and worst few months without this happening in them all, fluke?

    Caveat: speculation
    Nobody went to Santaponsa on holiday and then didn’t quarantine in wider community then someone went to a bbq. Then infected everyone over a number of days.


  • #8178
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,514 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Today's 4 deaths are from May, June, July and August
    where are you getting that info from its not on the press release (it should be)


  • #8179
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    "Quite likely will have significant numbers in the next few days"
    "Restrictions won't have impact on figures for a week to 10 days"
    - Glynn


  • #8180
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    expectationlost wrote: »
    where are you getting that info from its not on the press release (it should be)
    Shane Beatty got it from DOH press officer
    https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1291799851336966145?s=20


  • #8181
    Man Vs ManUre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    This young whippersnapper of a CMO isn’t as calm and cool as Tony. I feel he may erupt at any moment.


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  • #8182
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Man Vs ManUre wrote: »
    This young whippersnapper of a CMO isn’t as calm and cool as Tony. I feel he may erupt at any moment.
    Tony was very snappy with journalists, not sure why you feel like that


  • #8183
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Today's 4 deaths are from May, June, July and August

    Terrible. May they rest in peace.


  • #8184
    mountgomery burns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That's ST james and I totally agree with you that all swabs are suspect, what I am trying to put across is not all hospitals are swabbing for the same reasons and therefore we cannot just dismiss the suspect numbers.

    There was 158 suspected cases in hospital 3 weeks ago per article below.

    Think about it this way, given how low the prevalence was and the the speed at which tests results were being turned around (with 48-72 hours I think mostly), if you look at the below number of cases and suspect actually meant "likely Covid cases", then you would surely have seen an acute rise in confirmed numbers in hospital shortly after. Instead they fell further into single digits.

    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1153327/

    Suspect cases means tested but no result confirmed, they cannot rule out that they've Covid. Some of them may have Coronavirus and return a positive results, but reading into this statistic would be like classifying the daily number of tests still awaiting results as "suspected cases of the virus". Not to be advised.


  • #8185
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    Now that we are definitively on a new upward swing, Is it time for the Gardai to start taking control and stop people from breaking the COVID guidelines?

    They don't have the legal authority.

    The role of the modern foot soldier garda is to raise revenue for the state.


  • #8186
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    31 cases not associated with a known outbreak and not close contact of a confirmed case is a lot. What is the source of these cases?


  • #8187
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    How are they announcing deaths from May? How does it take 2-3 months after someone died to figure out they died of covid?


  • #8188
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Yadiel Faint Tanner wrote: »
    31 cases not associated with a known outbreak and not close contact of a confirmed case is a lot. What is the source of these cases?
    Healthcare workers, travel and those under investigation.

    CMO said they've likely been fully traced just not included in the stats by the time the press release is published.


  • #8189
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    How are they announcing deaths from May? How does it take 2-3 months after someone died to figure out they died of covid?
    It's up to the family to report the death.


  • #8190
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Shane Beatty asked Dr Glynn if the 4 deaths were recent or Historic and Glynn said he wasn't sure.

    Did anyone else catch that?

    How can he not know?
    Caught that he didn't have the information available. Educated guess would say most if not all 4 deaths are from a few months ago.


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  • #8191
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Can we all agree the government made an absolute bollox of everything they needed to look after durning Covid
    Its literally the people of Ireland who have got us to a decent position inspire of the Holy show of a government we have


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