Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Naos · 06-08-2020 10:54PM

What industries are still closed?

i_surge · 06-08-2020 10:58PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

6. Why do you think no country in Europe is pursuing New Zealand’s approach, perhaps they’re not an island at least 4 hours flight from the nearest sparsely populated country.

I'd love to know. We are best positioned for it as an island.

The rest is just imaginary small minded obstacles to a logical approach. The only one I can see.

What is your suggestion?

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 06-08-2020 11:01PM

i_surge wrote: »

I'd love to know. We are best positioned for it as an island.

The rest is just imaginary small minded obstacles to a logical approach. The only one I can see.

What is your suggestion?

We’re not an island though, there’s another country with its own rules tacked on the top

06-08-2020 11:04PM

Naos wrote: »

What industries are still closed?

People keep asking this. We still have 16% unemployment rate and something like 350000 getting the PUP payment.

Pubs, clubs and most of the entertainment industry are closed. (And all the engineers etc that support these)

Restaurants and pubs acting as restaurants are running at reduced capacity and will now have a curfew enforced on them.

Footfall is down a lot in the shopping centres as some people are afraid of the virus and some people aren’t bothered with the masks and queues.

Tourism sector and all that entails is pretty much wiped out at the moment.

Several businesses are in deep trouble or have fully closed. BOI announced this week that they are looking to cut 1400 staff.

06-08-2020 11:10PM

There are posters on some other threads that are frustrated/disappointed that the hard work of the last 5 months is now coming undone.

They could have popped in here back in April and we would have told them a disease doesn’t just disappear if you hide for awhile.

At least people are starting to see how useless lockdown really is.

HeidiHeidi · 06-08-2020 11:10PM

Annabelle Raspy Right-hand wrote: »

We’re not an island though, there’s another country with its own rules tacked on the top

This should be stickied in bold capital letters at the top of every Covid thread.

HeidiHeidi · 06-08-2020 11:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There are posters on some other threads that are frustrated/disappointed that the hard work of the last 5 months is now coming undone.

They could have popped in here back in April and we would have told them a disease doesn’t just disappear if you hide for awhile.

At least people are starting to see how useless lockdown really is.

Do you think it'll disappear if we open everything up?

i_surge · 06-08-2020 11:14PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

This should be stickied in bold capital letters at the top of every Covid thread.

Virus doesn't care about land borders on a map, neither should the response.

I know it is a crazy thought, but maybe some diplomacy in the face of an international crisis.

Keep naysaying.

Naos · 06-08-2020 11:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

People keep asking this. We still have 16% unemployment rate and something like 350000 getting the PUP payment.

Pubs, clubs and most of the entertainment industry are closed. (And all the engineers etc that support these)

Restaurants and pubs acting as restaurants are running at reduced capacity and will now have a curfew enforced on them.

Footfall is down a lot in the shopping centres as some people are afraid of the virus and some people aren’t bothered with the masks and queues.

Tourism sector and all that entails is pretty much wiped out at the moment.

Several businesses are in deep trouble or have fully closed. BOI announced this week that they are looking to cut 1400 staff.

Fair enough, I read through this thread and could not see it anywhere & also read through the Phase lists on the Gov site, so I asked.
That being said, you're sort of half answering the question, restaurants are not closed, can you tell me what touristic places are closed?

I'm not asking what places are doing well or what footfall is like in shopping centres, I just want to know what industries are still closed.

As far as I can see, it's just pubs & everything that entails (pub musicians, engineers etc) and large sporting events / concerts.

06-08-2020 11:26PM

Naos wrote: »

Fair enough, I read through this thread and could not see it anywhere & also read through the Phase lists on the Gov site, so I asked.
That being said, you're sort of half answering the question, restaurants are not closed, can you tell me what touristic places are closed?

I'm not asking what places are doing well or what footfall is like in shopping centres, I just want to know what industries are still closed.

As far as I can see, it's just pubs & everything that entails (pub musicians, engineers etc) and large sporting events / concerts.

I think that’s more or less it in terms of completely closed.

06-08-2020 11:30PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Do you think it'll disappear if we open everything up?

No but I think we’ll have to eventually.

Spanish Eyes · 06-08-2020 11:33PM

Large gatherings indoors less than 50. Thank feck I can decline the Wedding invite from non relatives. JOY!

John O.Groats · 06-08-2020 11:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There are posters on some other threads that are frustrated/disappointed that the hard work of the last 5 months is now coming undone.

They could have popped in here back in April and we would have told them a disease doesn’t just disappear if you hide for awhile.

At least people are starting to see how useless lockdown really is.

You and your fellow drum bangers were wrong in April and you are still wrong now. If the lockdown had not been implemented the country would be in a far worse situation than it is now.

vid36 · 06-08-2020 11:53PM

So the Leinster lockdown is on the way tomorrow.

vid36 · 06-08-2020 11:54PM

Or the Bifflokdown.

John O.Groats · 07-08-2020 12:03AM

Diabhalta wrote: »

You forgot to post this.

This is about as valid as most of what you posted.

road_high · 07-08-2020 12:29AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

You and your fellow drum bangers were wrong in April and you are still wrong now. If the lockdown had not been implemented the country would be in a far worse situation than it is now.

If anything it goes to prove how utterly pointless so much of your precious lockdown is/was. Here we are 5 months later- and guess what- the virus is still there. It was suppressed for a while. Then cases increased as society reopens...so what now? Do the same again?
Closing all shops, hair dressers etc was pathetic nonsense. The focus needs to be now where the cases actually are and environments where Covid spreads.

road_high · 07-08-2020 12:30AM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Do you think it'll disappear if we open everything up?

Well it didn’t disappear when we locked down either?

polesheep · 07-08-2020 12:56AM

vid36 wrote: »

So the Leinster lockdown is on the way tomorrow.

Yep. Nothing in and nothing out. Enjoy your blighted spuds and cabbage.

MadYaker · 07-08-2020 02:02AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No but I think we’ll have to eventually.

That’s the plan. That’s what we are doing. You honestly have no idea what’s happening.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 07-08-2020 02:08AM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Do you think it'll disappear if we open everything up?

It'll never disappear so why are we pretending like lockdowns still work? Best case scenario here is we'll have a handful of cases every day for the next 10, 20 years so what's the point in keeping 350,000 people on PUP and that number will be FAR FAR more the longer this nonsense goes on. How long do you think we can keep paying for that? And I do mean "we" because it'll be YOU and ME paying for this for the rest of our lives.

Open everything up now before it's too late.

joseywhales · 07-08-2020 02:38AM

If we had 100% compliance on masks , social distancing, businesses and schools making sure that there are adequate precautions,ventilation and distancing, then I think we could have most businesses running.

The problem is we can't get that compliance, even though it is proven to save lives and lesson permanent lung injury in others. Those conditions hardly make life unbearable.

dalyboy · 07-08-2020 04:28AM

joseywhales wrote: »

If we had 100% compliance on masks , social distancing, businesses and schools making sure that there are adequate precautions,ventilation and distancing, then I think we could have most businesses running.

The problem is we can't get that compliance, even though it is proven to save lives and lesson permanent lung injury in others. Those conditions hardly make life unbearable.

With those restrictions I’d call it an existence rather than a life.

07-08-2020 08:03AM

MadYaker wrote: »

That’s the plan. That’s what we are doing. You honestly have no idea what’s happening.

You must have missed the latest press conference.
We didn’t move into phase 4 again.
We actually introduced more restrictions in the form of mandatory masks and curfews.

See my post on the previous page for a list of industries shut or severely restricted.

We are far from reopening going into month 6 of this.

07-08-2020 08:16AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

You and your fellow drum bangers were wrong in April and you are still wrong now. If the lockdown had not been implemented the country would be in a far worse situation than it is now.

I don’t think anybody didn’t want lockdown in April. It served it’s purpose. It allowed us time to get our testing and tracing up to speed.

But a solution it is not. Even the lockdown supporters are now losing faith in it going into month 6. We tried to tell them all along that hiding wouldn’t get rid of the virus.

We need to move forward and be aggressive when the virus pops up. Unfortunately we are failing to do so. Cases have been occurring in meat plants since May and nothing has been done to prevent it.

Those businesses should be closed down for a period of time when cases are detected. Checks should be happening each day to ensure they are working in a better environment.

We should also NOT be allowing flights in from the USA or other Covid hotspots for that matter. We know that people don’t have to bother quarantining.

But it’s easier to just close pubs and make masks mandatory than to actually put in the hard work required to target the areas were cases are occurring.

For all the talk around pubs, not a single case has popped up from a pub or restaurant since they opened well over a month ago.

firemansam4 · 07-08-2020 08:17AM

Hunky Monster wrote:

It'll never disappear so why are we pretending like lockdowns still work? Best case scenario here is we'll have a handful of cases every day for the next 10, 20 years so what's the point in keeping 350,000 people on PUP and that number will be FAR FAR more the longer this nonsense goes on. How long do you think we can keep paying for that? And I do mean "we" because it'll be YOU and ME paying for this for the rest of our lives.

Open everything up now before it's too late.

Best case scenario?

This is nonsense, the chances of a viable vaccination are looking very good and hopefully at risk groups may get it by the winter, Of course there are no guarantees.
Best case scenario is the vaccination becomes a success and we will hopefully all be able to go back to normal and put this wretched year behind us.

John O.Groats · 07-08-2020 08:18AM

dalyboy wrote: »

With those restrictions I’d call it an existence rather than a life.

It is and for a considerable time to come will be the new normal. You had better get used to it.

MickeyLeari · 07-08-2020 08:22AM

We are putting billions of our tax money into this and they cannot control a known risk sector (meat processing). This is a scandal which other businesses are paying for.

is_that_so · 07-08-2020 08:27AM

MickeyLeari wrote: »

We are putting billions of our tax money into this and they cannot control a known risk sector (meat processing). This is a scandal which other businesses are paying for.

Steady on now, it's a few clusters, not the whole industry and living conditions may have as much if not more to do with the spread. That's what emerged from the construction sites which were closed.

07-08-2020 08:48AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

It is and for a considerable time to come will be the new normal. You had better get used to it.

It won't stay like this, it simply can't.
You don't get to live a few billion in deficit each month for long.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings