Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Meat factories were noted early in this disease as being a high risk environment. This is what led to Cavan having (or maybe still has - haven’t checked the most recent figures on this) the highest rate of infection per population in Ireland.

Meat factories have also been the source of outbreaks in the US and the UK.

https://www.bbc.com/news/53137613

This should have led to a targeted aggressive approach from the individual factories and public health department but this has failed.

Workers in these factories are obviously vulnerable in their workplaces but also on their home fronts too as even if the best precautions were taken in their factories (which seems doubtful), their living situation is a further breeding ground for infectious diseases.

Looks like gov is short of manpower. It's up to people to manage this. I am off to vacation in Spain next week. Positive outlook:D

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Main thing here is to not panic lads. There’s a clear issue and the authorities are dealing with it.

Main thing here is to not panic but take precautions for yourself and your family if you're in affected areas. As seen before Covid can spiral very quickly.

majcos wrote: »

This should have led to a targeted aggressive approach from the individual factories and public health department but this has failed.

Workers in these factories are obviously vulnerable in their workplaces but also on their home fronts too as even if the best precautions were taken in their factories (which seems doubtful), their living situation is a further breeding ground for infectious diseases.

How do you they haven't? We have clusters, they've been identified and contact traced fast - what else are you expecting?

We can't have health inspectors following the staff around 24x7 making sure they are socially distancing, not attending house parties, not going abroad on holidays etc.

spookwoman wrote: »

eh?? It's politicians spreading the virus :rolleyes:

We were told to social distance but no some, the ah sure we can't get it or we are young we won't get sick or die people can't follow a simple rule.
We were asked to wear masks but no some people don't want to wear them because they think it does no good or some other reason.
We were asked to only spend 1.45 hours max in the pub but no some people can't even do that.

If people can't follow simple rules for theirs and other peoples safety then infections will go up.

The whole point of lockdown from NPHET was to eridacte this, we did an excellent Job, it was Leo decided it wasn't practical and we couldn't compare ourselves to other islands who'd managed it as we were Europeans first and Islanders second.
Do not give the previous government any credit as they done jack **** until they decided to disagree with NPHET which it appears to be was a stupid decision based on economics not the health of the Nation.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What's the NI problem, are you telling me the Spanish wouldn't further annex Gibraltar if they thought it was a threat.
To say we can't control our borders is ludicrous, have you an Irish passport if not f off. It's really that simple. I'll gladly go help control a border checkpoint as so will many others.

Theres a physical border between Spain and Gibraltar. Bit of a difference between us and NI now.

1 road in and out of Gibraltar, here over 300 border crossings.

You can see the problem

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Besides Carrolls what other meat factories infected?

2 additional outbreaks at factories in Kildare town & Timahoe is all they said. No names

stephenjmcd wrote: »

2 additional outbreaks at factories in Kildare town & Timahoe is all they said. No names

Bradys is in Timahoe?

hmmm wrote: »

How do you they haven't? We have clusters, they've been identified and contact traced fast - what else are you expecting?

We can't have health inspectors following the staff around 24x7 making sure they are socially distancing, not attending house parties, not going abroad on holidays etc.

The very size of this cluster shows the measures taken within these settings have failed.

Videos on social media showing a total lack of compliance with basic public health advice. The HPSC published a specific guideline for meat factories but that is useless unfortunately without enforcement.

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/guidance/outbreakmanagementguidance/outbreakcontrolinmeatfactories/Interim%20Guidance%20COVID-19%20Meat%20Factories.pdf

Also very worrying to hear that contacts within direct provision centres were still going out to work in other places after cases had been confirmed. Cannot verify if this is true but beggars belief if it is.

A cluster is better than a random rapid increase in community transmission but the bigger the cluster the less likely it can be contained and harder to envisage that it will not lead to more community spread.

spookwoman wrote: »

It was to suppress the virus in the community and flatten the curve.

Tony was pretty clear on where he was taking us and it's wasn't on this bullcrap rebounding road.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The schools going back will be like a bomb going off

Speading into homes like wildfire by October

It's a horrible situation and there is nothing we can do

They need education

I completely agree, I think the old story of children not being spreaders and they successfully opened schools in europe has run its course. Time now for parents to sit up and make sure their school is safe.....No more teacher bashing, lets all work together. Even Ciara Kelly has stopped giving out....

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The schools going back will be like a bomb going off

Speading into homes like wildfire by October

It's a horrible situation and there is nothing we can do

They need education

WHO needs education?