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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #6242
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    BagheeraBlue wrote: »
    so have people stopped dying from it or what ?

    Nope there is a lag between cases and deaths. The second wave will be a lot more severe than the first.


  • #6243
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Looking at todays report on gov Monday 3 the 1 hospitalised case was someone between the ages of 0-4. Hopefully it becomes a -1 tomorrow


  • #6244
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    The second wave will be a lot more severe than the first.

    I can't let that go. You have zero basis for this. All evidence points to the contrary in fact.


  • #6245
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I would have said no chance a short few weeks back but looking inevitable now as we move into the winter.

    Our economy is collapsing either way at this stage.

    If that happens we are truly fu*ked. There is a chance of pulling it back now but time is running out. They should have kept it at flattening the curve, this is getting dangerously ridiculous.


  • #6246
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    The worrying thing from today’s numbers is how spread out the new cases are a lot more counties involved.


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  • #6247
    ongarite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,529 ✭✭✭ongarite


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The only way forward is a NZ style border closure.

    Otherwise we will be in and out of lockdown till a vaccine comes along.

    I can see it eventually happening in Nov when it should happen now.

    And just how would you do that?
    Thousands of people in border counties cross into NI every day for work, shopping and leisure.
    Same for residents of NI, many thousands of them work here every day. You can't legally stop them going to their place of work.
    We can't force another country to close parts of its border to its own citizens.
    UK residents can travel to NI at any time and there is no way that will be stopped.


  • #6248
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    you don't die for a month or more after you get it.
    Yeah and it can be longer but hopefully we won't see many more. Low numbers in hospital and ICU suggest it will continue the current pattern.


  • #6249
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    I would have said no chance a short few weeks back but looking inevitable now as we move into the winter.

    Our economy is collapsing either way at this stage.

    As weird and all as Gerry Killeen is at times - and he does come across as being a bit "off" - I do wonder sometimes will we be looking back in January or February and wondering why we didn't take the zero Covid approach when there was a chance to do it.

    Obviously it's impractical and it's hard and there's absolutely zero political will to do it, but I do wonder if, in the long run, it's actually a more sustainable approach. This method of half living and half dying by a thousand cuts could eventually fray everyone's sanity.


  • #6250
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,233 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Except Bergamo showed 50% of people had it.
    Obviously if 95% of us didn’t have it then we are still susceptible to outbreaks as we don’t have herd immunity. (Not even this season)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ireland-has-no-significant-herd-immunity-study-shows-1.4308216


    It would be interesting to test the residents of Bergamo again to see if the number has gone down. I think it depends how long after infection you test for them.
    We were probably too late in testing for antibodies as most people who had it would have recovered 3+ months before they had their blood tested for Antibodies.

    A lot more research and studies are needed in this area over time.


  • #6251
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Has any country stabilized after getting 50 cases or so? I dont think so and its magnified given our population


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  • #6252
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Looking at todays report on gov Monday 3 the 1 hospitalised case was someone between the ages of 0-4. Hopefully it becomes a -1 tomorrow

    1 case in temple Street on Monday, discharged Monday 3rd August as per HSE Operations report from Monday night.

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-2000-3-august-2020.pdf


  • #6253
    Sheepdish1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Sheepdish1


    spookwoman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1291058649096491009?s=20

    31 are men / 19 are women

    81% are under 45

    42 associated with outbreaks or close contacts.

    4 cases have been identified as community transmission

    11 cases in Wexford, 10 in Kildare, 6 in Dublin, 5 in Donegal, and 18 are spread across 9 counties.

    The nine counties which make up the 18 remaining cases are: Carlow, Cork, Limerick, Louth, Meath, Offaly, Sligo, Tipperary and Wicklow

    What does community transmitting mean?


  • #6254
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Nope there is a lag between cases and deaths. The second wave will be a lot more severe than the first.
    This is based on what evidence exactly?


  • #6255
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sheepdish1 wrote: »
    What does community transmitting mean?
    Randomly spreading around and it can't be linked to a known cluster.


  • #6256
    TheDriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,795 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    The amount of racist chat going on in public is concerning due to these clusters.


  • #6257
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Sheepdish1 wrote: »
    What does community transmitting mean?

    Means they don't know where it came from.


  • #6258
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    At peak it’s likely we had of that order. We know it’s likely we have had 250k cases since march, so averaging about 1.5k cases per day since march

    where are you getting that from? or did you just make it up?


  • #6259
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    ongarite wrote: »
    And just how would you do that?
    Thousands of people in border counties cross into NI every day for work, shopping and leisure.
    Same for residents of NI, many thousands of them work here every day. You can't legally stop them going to their place of work.
    We can't force another country to close parts of its border to its own citizens.
    UK residents can't travel to NI at any time and there is no way that will be stopped.

    You can allow travel only within the island of Ireland


  • #6260
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    froog wrote: »
    where are you getting that from? or did you just make it up?
    250K is about 5% of the population, which is the level they've found in antibody testing.


  • #6261
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    TheDriver wrote: »
    The amount of racist chat going on in public is concerning due to these clusters.

    Take comfort in knowing that those spouting that ****e are as thick as ****e.


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  • #6262
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    ongarite wrote: »
    And just how would you do that?
    Thousands of people in border counties cross into NI every day for work, shopping and leisure.
    Same for residents of NI, many thousands of them work here every day. You can't legally stop them going to their place of work.
    We can't force another country to close parts of its border to its own citizens.
    UK residents can't travel to NI at any time and there is no way that will be stopped.

    The UK will close it borders as well by Nov.

    Covid 19 wave during Nov,Dec,Jan,Feb just can't be allowed to happen in either jurisdiction.


  • #6263
    BagheeraBlue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭BagheeraBlue


    TheDriver wrote: »
    The amount of racist chat going on in public is concerning due to these clusters.

    travellers are a race now ?


  • #6264
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,539 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    these clusters must be running out their course


  • #6265
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gipi wrote: »
    Just thinking out loud....These clusters started with one person (in each venue, though I know the DP centre and Naas factory are linked). any thoughts as to where those people got it? Are these the unknown community transmissions or are they travel related?

    We never went to zero cases


  • #6266
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,189 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So no deaths is good which is nearly a week without new deaths which is obviously good. So the last four or five days it's 53,46,45,50 so I suppose given we had 89 nearly a week ago and the numbers have dropped again(albeit at a higher number) and are staying more or less on the mid forty to fifty range is good. It's not growing at and raising as of now.


  • #6267
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Anyone know what the story is with the 11 cases in Wexford?


  • #6268
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    is_that_so wrote: »
    This is based on what evidence exactly?

    Because we can't afford another lockdown.


  • #6269
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,539 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Wexford?


  • #6270
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,189 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    BagheeraBlue wrote: »
    travellers are a race now ?

    I believe they are an ethnic group for last few years.


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  • #6271
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    expectationlost wrote: »
    these clusters must be running out their course
    They track them until there hasn't been a case linked to a cluster for 28 days before they close them.


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