Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

caveat emptor · 05-08-2020 04:26PM

Aberdeen going into lockdown due to cluster with 54 people. That's a city of 200K. This is going to start getting expensive.

By all accounts they had a great night though. Look how many places they got to visit :eek:

Why don't we get told where suspected cases were?

Ms Sturgeon said 54 cases had now been associated with the cluster and 191 close contacts had been traced through the Test and Protect system.
NHS Grampian has published a list of venues which have been visited by people linked to the cluster, including 28 bars and cafes.

They are:
Bieldside Inn,

Bobbin,

Brewdog (Castlegate),

Buckie Farm Carvery,

Café Andaluz,

Café Dag,

Café Drummond,

The Cock & Bull,

College Bar,

The Dutch Mill,

Dyce Carvery,

East End Social Club,

Ferryhill House Hotel,

Hawthorn/Adam Lounge,

The Howff,

The Justice Mill,

The Marine Hotel,

McGinty's,

McNasty's,

Malmaison,

Moonfish Café,

No.10 Bar,

O'Donoghues,

Old Bank Bar,

Prohibition,

Soul,

Spider's Web,

The Draft Project.

The list also includes
Aboyne,
Deeside and Hazelhead golf clubs,
Banks O'Dee
Football Club.

is_that_so · 05-08-2020 04:28PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Aberdeen going into lockdown due to cluster with 54 people. That's a city of 200K. This is going to start getting expensive.

Why don't we get told where suspected cases were?

Patient confidentiality as it's been since Day 1.

caveat emptor · 05-08-2020 04:30PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Patient confidentiality as it's been since Day 1.

That’s funny you’d want to be fairly clever to figure out which 50 odd people visited what bars at what times to know who had what.

Could be just to protect businesses?
As far as I’m aware the places peoples who had it here went to were dog food factories and hospitals.

Boggles · 05-08-2020 04:31PM

1 bar that followed all the health guidance apparently shut down the City.

Tough one.

is_that_so · 05-08-2020 04:33PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

That’s funny you’d want to be fairly clever to figure out which 50 odd people visited what bars at what times to know who had what.

Could be just to protect businesses?
As far as I’m aware the places peoples who had it went to were dog food factories and hospitals.

If an individual can specifically be identified from data they'll just put it with a generic group, the east, the south.

Wolf359f · 05-08-2020 04:35PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

ICU up to 6 this afternoon, 17 in hospital overall.

There hasn't been a discharge since Saturday and with the bank holiday weekend, I'm hoping to see a reduction in numbers in the 10pm HSE report.

Arghus · 05-08-2020 04:35PM

Aberdeen situation just shows again how quickly things can change rapidly.

ACitizenErased · 05-08-2020 04:36PM

55 cases in pubs in Aberdeen involving 20 establishments is quite the spread

05-08-2020 04:44PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

55 cases in pubs in Aberdeen involving 20 establishments is quite the spread

The initial cluster was linked to one bar, but do we know were any of the subsequent transmissions linked to any of the other bars, or are they just Bars frequented by people in the cluster?

Boggles · 05-08-2020 04:45PM

Bieldside Inn,
Bobbin,
Brewdog (Castlegate),
Buckie Farm Carvery,
Café Andaluz,
Café Dag,
Café Drummond,
The Cock & Bull,
College Bar,
The Dutch Mill,
Dyce Carvery,
East End Social Club,
Ferryhill House Hotel,
Hawthorn/Adam Lounge,
The Howff,
The Justice Mill,
The Marine Hotel,
McGinty's,
McNasty's,
Malmaison,
Moonfish Café,
No.10 Bar,
O'Donoghues,
Old Bank Bar,
Prohibition,
Soul,
Spider's Web,
The Draft Project.

Some really unique and far out names of establishments there, which I am sure have some great back stories.

Then you get to the Irish one.

Not 2 fúcks given.

Always_Running · 05-08-2020 04:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

LATEST TESTING UPDATE

Tests conducted last 24 hours: 3761
Tests conducted last 7 days: 23469
Additional positive tests: 52
Positivity Rate last 7 days: 1.4%

Seems cases/positive tests have plateaued

So another 38 to 46 number of cases today?

ACitizenErased · 05-08-2020 04:49PM

Always_Running wrote: »

So another 38 to 46 number of cases today?

In the last 4 days there were 188 positive tests and 144 confirmed cases so somewhere between 35 and 50 i would say, figures are very stable

GooglePlus · 05-08-2020 04:49PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

55 cases in pubs in Aberdeen involving 20 establishments is quite the spread

I thought spread required unmitigated nationwide community transmission?

US2 · 05-08-2020 04:53PM

Another half an hour off haha I'd love to know the thinking behind this because it seems like they are just saying things just for the sake of saying something

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1291017261315170305?s=19

Jinglejangle69 · 05-08-2020 04:54PM

Unknown community transmission is high all over the country again.

Did it occur to this lame duck government we are now seeing the effects of allowing tourists from the likes of America in and basically no follow up checks with them?

05-08-2020 05:01PM

Boggles wrote: »

Some really unique and far out names of establishments there, which I am sure have some great back stories.

Then you get to the Irish one.

Not 2 fúcks given.

Initial Cluster was linked to one of those bars. It was probably a week before most of those impacted were traced so is hardly surprising that 20 Bars, Cafe's and Restaurants had been attended for some of the 55 cases in the intervening days in a city the size of Aberdeen. Where is the implication this is a result of some mega pub crawl?

05-08-2020 05:02PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Unknown community transmission is high all over the country again.

Any evidence for this? We had nearly 1,000 cases a day in early April with probably up to 10 times that number going undetected. A bit of perspective needed

Jinglejangle69 · 05-08-2020 05:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any evidence for this? We had nearly 1,000 cases a day in early April with probably up to 10 times that number going undetected. A bit of perspective needed

1 in 5 the health minister said today.

Boggles · 05-08-2020 05:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Initial Cluster was linked to one of those bars. It was probably a week before most of those impacted were traced so is hardly surprising that 20 Bars, Cafe's and Restaurants had been attended for some of the 55 cases in the intervening days in a city the size of Aberdeen. Where is the implication this is a result of some mega pub crawl?

I never suggested it was one mega pub crawl.

hetuzozaho · 05-08-2020 05:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Where is the implication this is a result of some mega pub crawl?

I don't think anyone suggested this, or has it been reported somewhere as this?

Going back into such a lockdown must be tough for Aberdeen, I know we didn't move forward but moving back to 5km nothing at all open etc would be tough now!

thelad95 · 05-08-2020 05:11PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Unknown community transmission is high all over the country again.

Did it occur to this lame duck government we are now seeing the effects of allowing tourists from the likes of America in and basically no follow up checks with them?

Travel is a red herring and has been for weeks.

Travel has nothing whatsoever to do with the clusters in direct provision centres, factories who, either on an individual employee level or a higher management level have clearly not taken the guidelines in any way seriously.

It's baffling how very early on, it was recognized that both these sectors were particularly vulnerable to emergence of clusters, yet here we are, nearly five months down the road and judging by the emergence of an enormous amount of cases in the two above which has sent our known case load spiralling, it's clear that nothing has been learned on an industry wide basis. As I said before, the employers likely fulfilled their obligations by throwing up posters and installing hand sanitizer but after that complacency clearly kicked in and look what has happened.

Why are these factories and DP centres not being slated in the media? (as they deserve to be)

It's because everyone seems to love talking about the red herrings of travel and pubs.

MOR316 · 05-08-2020 05:14PM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I don't think anyone suggested this, or has it been reported somewhere as this?

Going back into such a lockdown must be tough for Aberdeen, I know we didn't move forward but moving back to 5km nothing at all open etc would be tough now!

Very tough. Mental health would be damaged completely for a lot, me included

Boggles · 05-08-2020 05:15PM

thelad95 wrote: »

It's because everyone seems to love talking about the red herrings of travel and pubs.

You do have somewhat of a point.

But essentially one pub just shut down Aberdeen.

So I wouldn't call pubs a Red Herring.

NPHET are not trying to keep them closed because they are mean bástards.

bb1234567 · 05-08-2020 05:16PM

Big increase in cases in greece in the last week, I wonder will they be removed from the green list too. Think the green list may be a very short one in a few weeks time

ACitizenErased · 05-08-2020 05:22PM

Malta with 36 cases today after being removed from the green list yesterday. In population terms that's the equivalent of roughly 380 cases here.

KrustyUCC · 05-08-2020 05:24PM

US2 wrote: »

Another half an hour off haha I'd love to know the thinking behind this because it seems like they are just saying things just for the sake of saying something

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1291017261315170305?s=19

No still 11

Its the one recommendation from NPHET the government didn't cave in on

GooglePlus · 05-08-2020 05:25PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any evidence for this? We had nearly 1,000 cases a day in early April with probably up to 10 times that number going undetected. A bit of perspective needed

You reckon we had 10,000 cases a day?

ACitizenErased · 05-08-2020 05:26PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

No still 11

Its the one recommendation from NPHET the government didn't cave in on

COVID at 11pm

ACitizenErased · 05-08-2020 05:27PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

You reckon we had 10,000 cases a day?

I wouldn't say 10,000 but I would go as far to say 3-4 thousand a day for a few days, we simply weren't testing enough to even nearly pick it up

bettyoleary · 05-08-2020 05:28PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Big increase in cases in greece in the last week, I wonder will they be removed from the green list too. Think the green list may be a very short one in a few weeks time

that's such a shame bcosrather Greece rely heavily on tourisim. Unfortunately when you get the greed from all ove Europe pushing t. heir

way into he country it will spread.

What we have to look at is which countries can deal with hospital admissions etc. Greece can't. Irelandcan just about but we will be overwhelmed soon. But, now I think mitigation is in place.

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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