Masks

v638sg7k1a92bx · 05-08-2020 03:17PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Tickers you can get hit by a truck unless you don't leave your home. However the more steps you take when you leave the home not to get hit by a truck means you are less likely to hit get hit by one.

YOU LITERALLY HAVE STATED THAT REDUCTION OF TRANSMISSION IS INEFFECTIVE.

I fail to see the analogy.

joeguevara · 05-08-2020 03:17PM

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

You can dig a giant hole with a shovel, you will make progress and we can prove scientifically that the shovel is having impact and removing dirt from the hole but the impact is minimal. That is your mask.

It is very apt that you mention digging a hole. Because every type you argue, you are digging a hole. Unfortunately for you, your arguments dig a much bigger hole than your mythical shovel.

joeguevara · 05-08-2020 03:17PM

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

I fail to see the analogy.

I think that says a lot about you and your understanding of this.

robinph · 05-08-2020 03:18PM

No: I don't care enough

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

You can dig a giant hole with a shovel, you will make progress and we can prove scientifically that the shovel is having impact and removing dirt from the hole but the impact is minimal. That is your mask.

If you have 1000 people helping you dig the hole with their small shovels how big a hole will you end up with? A big hole or a small hole?

v638sg7k1a92bx · 05-08-2020 03:18PM

joeguevara wrote: »

It is very apt that you mention digging a hole. Because every type you argue, you are digging a hole. Unfortunately for you, your arguments dig a much bigger hole than your mythical shovel.

So why am I beating you in the debate?

joeguevara · 05-08-2020 03:19PM

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

So why am I beating you in the debate?

Are you tickers, are you really? I think the fact that you think that shows how literally clueless you are.

Tork · 05-08-2020 03:19PM

Yes: to protect others

It's only in your mind that you're winning this debate.

joeguevara · 05-08-2020 03:21PM

Tork wrote: »

It's only in your mind that you're winning this debate.

Kendrick Jolly Ibex, I know you have difficulty following this, but Tork is directing this to you.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 05-08-2020 03:21PM

robinph wrote: »

If you have 1000 people helping you dig the hole with their small shovels how big a hole will you end up with? A big hole or a small hole?

Not if 1000 other people are refilling the hole with dirt.

Look, wear a mask if it makes you feel better but remember that it only protects others if you have the virus. 99% of the population do not have the virus so we have all these people wearing masks to protect others when they themselves don't have the virus so it's an utterly pointless exercise.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 05-08-2020 03:22PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Tickers, I know you have difficulty following this, but Tork is directing this to you.

Well if Tork said so then he must be right.

robinph · 05-08-2020 03:23PM

No: I don't care enough

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

So why am I beating you in the debate?

You really aren't.

Not even sure you know what you are debating if you are coming out with lines about an effective method of reducing transmission is not effective, because it's effective which means that it's not effective or some such nonsense.

Tork · 05-08-2020 03:23PM

Yes: to protect others

I have posted links to two scientific studies which show how far droplets travel from people's mouths. Are you saying that scientists know less than you are, and that they're posting scary photos on the internet for the laugh?

screamer · 05-08-2020 03:24PM

Yes: to protect others

Even wearing masks, we will see an uptick in cases but not because of masks, because we are heading into virus season, and covid cases will rise. That’s why it’s important we all do everything possible to minimise that spread.
If I go into my local shops and see people without masks I’ll be calling out the manager to sort it out. If people haven’t the decency to abide by the rules they can f@@k off and either avail of home delivery or do without. Unless of course the local friendly covid stores will allow in all the unmasked assholes.

robinph · 05-08-2020 03:24PM

No: I don't care enough

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

Not if 1000 other people are refilling the hole with dirt.

Look, wear a mask if it makes you feel better but remember that it only protects others if you have the virus. 99% of the population do not have the virus so we have all these people wearing masks to protect others when they themselves don't have the virus so it's an utterly pointless exercise.

It's only you that is trying to fill the hole back in. Except you are using Triggers spare broom to do so.

weldoninhio · 05-08-2020 03:26PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Overheal wrote: »

Prove it

Stands to reason. Masks are used to stop droplets getting out. A paper bag is less porous than a cloth mask.

breezy1985 · 05-08-2020 03:27PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

Wear them

joeguevara · 05-08-2020 03:28PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Stands to reason. Masks are used to stop droplets getting out. A paper bag is less porous than a cloth mask.

Lets go with this. And what happens with a paper bag when it gets wet, lets say from droplets and for example saliva, lips tongue?

one armed dwarf · 05-08-2020 03:59PM

No: other

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

Not if 1000 other people are refilling the hole with dirt.

Look, wear a mask if it makes you feel better but remember that it only protects others if you have the virus. 99% of the population do not have the virus so we have all these people wearing masks to protect others when they themselves don't have the virus so it's an utterly pointless exercise.

Many people who have the virus don't even know they have it. If it was as simple as avoiding clearly sick people then maybe masks wouldn't be needed, but it isn't as easy as that.

is_that_so · 05-08-2020 04:04PM

No: other

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Many people who have the virus don't even know they have it. If it was as simple as avoiding clearly sick people then maybe masks wouldn't be needed, but it isn't as easy as that.

"Many" now is not a big number. It's a low risk environment and not many cases as far as we know have come out of it. The masks are for the potential risk of lots of people together in indoor locations, which by the looks of things is not happening in retail either.

Jim_Hodge · 05-08-2020 04:11PM

Yes: homemade

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

So why am I beating you in the debate?

So, you couldn't be further from the truth. But it reinforces how clueless you posts have been.

circadian · 05-08-2020 04:22PM

Yes: other

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

So why am I beating you in the debate?

You're not. You're debating in bad faith. Just like you did with your Dolores Cahill thread.

I assume you're here to derail and spout nonsense rather than actually engage in any sort of meaningful debate.

harr · 05-08-2020 04:23PM

Really think this thread has run its course .. some people point blank refusing to even entertain the idea masks can be beneficial in anyway .

joeguevara · 05-08-2020 04:27PM

harr wrote: »

Really think this thread has run its course .. some people point blank refusing to even entertain the idea masks can be beneficial in anyway .

When someone states that reduction of transmission is ineffective as an argument not to wear them, I think we have found the lowest common denominator.

05-08-2020 04:27PM

screamer wrote: »

Even wearing masks, we will see an uptick in cases but not because of masks, because we are heading into virus season, and covid cases will rise. That’s why it’s important we all do everything possible to minimise that spread.
If I go into my local shops and see people without masks I’ll be calling out the manager to sort it out. If people haven’t the decency to abide by the rules they can f@@k off and either avail of home delivery or do without. Unless of course the local friendly covid stores will allow in all the unmasked assholes.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html#:~:text=Face%20coverings%20are%20not%20suitable,are%20exempt%20from%20the%20regulations.

You may have a reasonable excuse if you:

Cannot put a face covering on because of a physical or mental illness
Need to communicate with someone who has difficulties communicating
Are providing care to a vulnerable person
Are taking medication

Face coverings are not suitable for some people, including children under 13. This means that children under 13 are exempt from the regulations.

weldoninhio · 05-08-2020 04:28PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

joeguevara wrote: »

Lets go with this. And what happens with a paper bag when it gets wet, lets say from droplets and for example saliva, lips tongue?

Nothing if you are only wearing it for a very short time. Isn't' that what the mask advocates are saying, you only have to wear it for short times. Also, why would your lips and tongue be coming into contact with it, you weirdo?

stockshares · 05-08-2020 04:31PM

Franklin Deep Prisoner wrote: »

Face shields are absolutely useless on their own.

TaxiDriver2008 wrote: »

With the Mandatory face coverings next Monday,Can you wear a Faceshield instead of a mask?.Nothing said about this by Government.I bought one like a pair of glasses with a visor made by Clear Shield

celt262 wrote: »

Yes might aswell wear a baseball hat for all the good it does.

I'm Asthmatic . Can a Visor be worn instead of a Mask on public transport.

I will be on a Bus for 2 hrs and I get a sore throat and blocked sinuses from Masks which doesn't help Asthma

joeguevara · 05-08-2020 04:31PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Nothing if you are only wearing it for a very short time. Isn't' that what the mask advocates are saying, you only have to wear it for short times. Also, why would your lips and tongue be coming into contact with it, you weirdo?

You are calling me a weirdo? That's a good one.

Any a paper bag as a means of reducing transmission by being close to your mouth has no chance of coming into contact with your lips and tongue, close to your mouth

is that what your asking? Ill ask again, is something that is supposed to be a barrier for things leaving your mouth impossible to come into contact with lips and/or tongue?

is_that_so · 05-08-2020 04:36PM

No: other

stockshares wrote: »

I'm Asthmatic . Can a Visor be worn instead of a Mask on public transport.

I will be on a Bus for 2 hrs and I get a sore throat and blocked sinuses from Masks which doesn't help Asthma

Makes sense to me. Face covering is the stipulation. I've seen the odd person out with one.

weldoninhio · 05-08-2020 04:40PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

joeguevara wrote: »

You are calling me a weirdo? That's a good one.

Any a paper bag as a means of reducing transmission by being close to your mouth has no chance of coming into contact with your lips and tongue, close to your mouth
is that what your asking? Ill ask again, is something that is supposed to be a barrier for things leaving your mouth impossible to come into contact with lips and/or tongue?

Ok, it may possibly come into contact for a split second with lips/tongue. Over a short time, 10/20/30 minutes a decent paper bag should be able to deal with even the spittiest, lickiest, wet lipped person without disintegrating.

xhomelezz · 05-08-2020 04:42PM

Yes: valved

Just after making popcorn, gonna sit back and watch for a while. This thread gets better and better everyday. Can't wait how we gonna beat virus with paper bags and shovels

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