Masks

CalamariFritti · 04-08-2020 04:32PM

MadYaker wrote: »

So cases still rise after the gov advised masks, in your head this makes masks useless so we just shouldn't bother? You don't think cases rising might have anything to do with us moving out of lockdown?

Its literally right there what I said, right in front of you, you quoted it. How can you read this into my words?

Overheal · 04-08-2020 04:37PM

No: I don't care enough

MadYaker wrote: »

So cases still rise after the gov advised masks, in your head this makes masks useless so we just shouldn't bother? You don't think cases rising might have anything to do with us moving out of lockdown?

Sure the government didn't tell you not to lick the glass or handrails as a way to stop the virus and cases still went up so go on and lick those rails to your hearts content you can't get the virus that way

bodhrandude · 04-08-2020 04:44PM

Yes: surgical

I seen about 5 % compliance in Gourmet Tart in Salthill, Galway today, OK its a cafe which was fairly busy and you can't expect to be masked when sitting down having a coffee, but at the takeaway section there was 15 people in a queue and only me and one other masked, pretty ridiculous at this stage with the cases increasing. FF need to make the masks mandatory a proper law.

Away With The Fairies · 04-08-2020 06:04PM

Yes: valved

We're being told to wear masks inside shops and buses. But chemists? That seems like different story with the person I saw today. Talking away to the assistant with her mask down around on her chin.

Masks are not a fashion accessory. Cover your mouth and nose, covidiot.

weldoninhio · 04-08-2020 06:23PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Overheal wrote: »

Not being that clever. Try and do your shopping nude and tell me how you get on with that.

You said nothing about nude.

Dakota Dan · 04-08-2020 06:35PM

joeguevara wrote: »

No, just wear a mask if going to enclosed places where others are. Wash your hands and engage in social distancing. Is anything about that wrong?

The only mask proven to stop the spread of viruses is the n95 mask but hardly anybody wears them. Cloth and surgical masks are useless according to some experts usually the non politically influenced experts.

joeguevara · 04-08-2020 06:45PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

The only mask proven to stop the spread of viruses is the n95 mask but hardly anybody wears them. Cloth and surgical masks are useless according to some experts usually the non politically influenced experts.

Every expert says that they reduce the rate of transmission. Back to the drawing board for you

Overheal · 04-08-2020 06:56PM

No: I don't care enough

weldoninhio wrote: »

You said nothing about nude.

You're not being that clever.

andrew1977 · 04-08-2020 07:00PM

I return to the office 10th August , should I wear a mask indoors all day mixing with 30 to 40 colleagues ?

I’ll be spending longer time daily with them than I would in any retail/ indoor venue .
Our employer has decided that working from home is over and we all return to the office next Monday .
I guess I should wear a mask ?

Away With The Fairies · 04-08-2020 07:03PM

Yes: valved

andrew1977 wrote: »

I return to the office 10th August , should I wear a mask indoors all day mixing with 30 to 40 colleagues ?

I’ll be spending longer time daily with them than I would in any retail/ indoor venue .
Our employer has decided that working from home is over and we all return to the office next Monday .
I guess I should wear a mask ?

Yes, you should wear mask when around people.

AudreyHepburn · 04-08-2020 07:04PM

Yes: surgical

Is it really that much of a upheaval to your life to have to wear a mask? It’s just a strip of fabric over your face. I don’t understand the fuss.

No one is taking away your civil liberties or human rights by asking you to wear. This about saving lives.

Overheal · 04-08-2020 07:05PM

No: I don't care enough

andrew1977 wrote: »

I return to the office 10th August , should I wear a mask indoors all day mixing with 30 to 40 colleagues ?

I’ll be spending longer time daily with them than I would in any retail/ indoor venue .
Our employer has decided that working from home is over and we all return to the office next Monday .
I guess I should wear a mask ?

I certainly would.

Dakota Dan · 04-08-2020 07:12PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Every expert says that they reduce the rate of transmission. Back to the drawing board for you

Sorry, you are wrong there they say the cloth and surgical masks only prevent the biggest droplets while letting smaller droplets through.

joeguevara · 04-08-2020 07:17PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Sorry, you are wrong there they say the cloth and surgical masks only prevent the biggest droplets while letting smaller droplets through.

Please read my posts. I consistently that masks reduce the rate of transmission. Now have a think about that. Do you see the difference in the use of reduce and prevent. Now, which do you think doesn’t reduce reduce the rate of transmission and allows all virus droplets escape....I’ll give you a clue, it’s two words and contains the words no and mask.

Loafing Oaf · 04-08-2020 07:17PM

No: I don't care enough

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Cloth and surgical masks are useless according to some experts

Tinfoil ones, on the other hand...

odyssey06 · 04-08-2020 08:11PM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Sorry, you are wrong there they say the cloth and surgical masks only prevent the biggest droplets while letting smaller droplets through.

This article summarises the reaaons behind the change in advice in US re: masks.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Fewer droplets means less viral load meaning less chance of infection. They dont have to stop every droplet emitted to make a difference.

MadYaker · 04-08-2020 08:11PM

Yes: surgical

andrew1977 wrote: »

I return to the office 10th August , should I wear a mask indoors all day mixing with 30 to 40 colleagues ?

I’ll be spending longer time daily with them than I would in any retail/ indoor venue .
Our employer has decided that working from home is over and we all return to the office next Monday .
I guess I should wear a mask ?

If you're concerned report your employer to the HSE. They should be allowing people who can to continue working from home.

saabsaab · 04-08-2020 08:16PM

Yes: homemade

odyssey06 wrote: »

This article summarises the reaaons behind the change in advice in US re: masks.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Fewer droplets means less viral load meaning less chance of infection. They dont have to stop every droplet emitted to make a difference.

Bang on. Some here just don't understand.

ginoginelli · 04-08-2020 08:39PM

Yes: surgical

andrew1977 wrote: »

I return to the office 10th August , should I wear a mask indoors all day mixing with 30 to 40 colleagues ?

I’ll be spending longer time daily with them than I would in any retail/ indoor venue .
Our employer has decided that working from home is over and we all return to the office next Monday .
I guess I should wear a mask ?

Yes. Offices are high risk. Everyone else in the office should be wearing one too. If they are not, personally i would not go in.

andrew1977 · 04-08-2020 08:41PM

MadYaker wrote: »

If you're concerned report your employer to the HSE. They should be allowing people who can to continue working from home.

Is this still the case that those who can work from home must do so? We have been told our office has been made a safe place to be as per the return to work safety protocol. We have online training on office procedures in the next couple of days and all staff expected to the office Monday morning for work .
Thanks

railer201 · 04-08-2020 08:47PM

Yes: valved

odyssey06 wrote: »

This article summarises the reaaons behind the change in advice in US re: masks.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Fewer droplets means less viral load meaning less chance of infection. They dont have to stop every droplet emitted to make a difference.

It is an excellent summary also, of what we have been saying here as long back as three months ago.

I'm just wondering in light of some recent posting here, is there a simpler version with maybe coloured pictures and using less complicated words such as 'asymptomatic' ?

Perhaps also maybe rhymes like '1,2,4 and 8 doubles new cases at a very fast rate' to explain exponential.

odyssey06 · 04-08-2020 08:48PM

andrew1977 wrote: »

Is this still the case that those who can work from home must do so? We have been told our office has been made a safe place to be as per the return to work safety protocol. We have online training on office procedures in the next couple of days and all staff expected to the office Monday morning for work .
Thanks

If you go back open every window you can.
There is another thread on this forum re ventilation suggest a read.
https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058096353/4/#post114208602

xhomelezz · 04-08-2020 09:00PM

Yes: valved

railer201 wrote: »

It is an excellent summary also, of what those of us who support the use of masks, have been saying here as long back as three months ago.

I'm just wondering in light of some recent posting here, is there a simpler version with maybe coloured pictures and using less complicated words such as 'asymptomatic'.

Perhaps also maybe rhymes like '1,2,4 and 8 doubles new cases at a very fast rate' to explain exponential.

It's gonna be hard to make it more simple. We need to control source right, which is mouth and nose, think we know that from the start. If we won't do that, we can be swimming in hand sanitizer and cases will still go on. But yeah there are still people out there, who will refuse to understand it. And don't forget, people can get offended by pictures, so it will need very sensible approach

TaxiDriver2008 · 04-08-2020 09:34PM

With the Mandatory face coverings next Monday,Can you wear a Faceshield instead of a mask?.Nothing said about this by Government.I bought one like a pair of glasses with a visor made by Clear Shield

Darc19 · 04-08-2020 09:36PM

Yes. The official name is a "face covering"

A plastic shield is a face covering.

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 04-08-2020 09:37PM

Face shields are absolutely useless on their own.

celt262 · 04-08-2020 09:38PM

Dogg Munde wrote: »

Face shields are absolutely useless on their own.

Yes might aswell wear a baseball hat for all the good it does.

Jim_Hodge · 04-08-2020 09:38PM

Yes: homemade

I'd imagine it's like the UK

However, guidance advises that you should either buy reusable or single-use face coverings, or create a face covering out of a scarf, bandana, religious garment or other fabric material.

The face covering must also "securely fit round the side of the face", suggesting a visor may not be suitable.

According to the guidance, face coverings should be made of a breathable material that you find comfortable, and be secured to the head with ties or ear loops.

TaxiDriver2008 · 04-08-2020 09:40PM

Dogg Munde wrote: »

Face shields are absolutely useless on their own.

I know but I get dizzy with masks .Ive tried and start sweating and not good.If shield passes it might help

o1s1n · 04-08-2020 09:46PM

Yes: other

TaxiDriver2008 wrote: »

I know but I get dizzy with masks .Ive tried and start sweating and not good.If shield passes it might help

There's no reason for you to get dizzy with a mask other than your own anxiety driven claustrophobia.

Maybe try wearing one at home a bit and just getting used to it?

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