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FF/FG/Green Next Government

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭xl500


    While John Hume Was giving away the Money He was awarded from the Nobel Commission Bertie was stashing his in Briefcases and betting it on Horses that's the difference right there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    xl500 wrote: »
    While John Hume Was giving away the Money He was awarded from the Nobel Commission Bertie was stashing his in Briefcases and betting it on Horses that's the difference right there

    So now you want to tell people what they can/can’t do with their money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭xl500


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So now you want to tell people what they can/can’t do with their money?

    Not really I cant and dont have the Authority to do So But Judge Alan Mahon certainly has heres what he Said

    "What did it find against him?

    In its final report in March 2012, the Mahon Tribunal rejected much of Ahern’s evidence.

    While it accepted his claim that he didn’t have a bank account for years between 1987 and 1993, it rejected his assertion that he had built up around £54,000 in savings by the time.

    In all, the Tribunal said that he did not truthfully account for payments of £165,000 made to accounts connected to him.

    This included the Manchester dinner with Irish businessmen, where the Tribunal rejected the assertion that two-thirds of the £24,838 figure mentioned was in punts. The Mahon Tribunal said it was solely a Sterling payment of £25,000, and suggesting that Ahern had not been truthful in his evidence."



    Did not Truthfully Account means he Lied to the Tribunal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    What your posts show is how childish some of the public have become.....even the death of a person and it’s some petty little post....

    This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    The 'Hume-Adams initiative' ever hear of it Shef?
    Correct me if I am wrong, there are two names there.
    All Hume's initiatives up to this had failed.

    As far as Sheffy's concerned Bertie singlehandedly created and delivered the GFA, everyone else just made the tea


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

    No it's not. It's the FF/FG/Green thread. No more than the SF thread isn't the SFIRA thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    No it's not. It's the FF/FG?Dreen thread. No more than the SF thread isn't the SFIRA thread.

    What's a Dreen? Doesn't sound insulting enough for the Children of the Quorn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭DenMan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,239 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

    There won’t be the dull scones with the white shirts and black ties at this funeral, I hope.

    I hope and expect that this funeral will be conducted with dignity unlike the pantomime at the previous event.

    Put sleazy into another planet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    DenMan wrote: »

    So Leo will be giving a sneaky spolier one...oh, wait...
    NPHET advising 'cautious approach' to reopening, says Varadkar

    Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has said the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) is advising that the Government takes a "cautious approach" to reopening over the coming weeks.

    On the way in to a Cabinet meeting this afternoon, he said: "I know that will come as a further blow to some of the sectors that can't be reopened. But we just can't risk moving backward or risk schools reopening."
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0804/1157163-covid-19-phase-3-decision/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

    You need to chill out, my friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.


    Breathe.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    As far as Sheffy's concerned Bertie singlehandedly created and delivered the GFA, everyone else just made the tea


    I would be interested to see the post from thsi character "Sheffy's", sounds like a lovely chap but not sure why he would think only Bertie delivered it.....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Bowie wrote: »
    So Leo will be giving a sneaky spolier one...oh, wait...

    Somehow- I can't see this working.
    If even Leo can't keep his big mouth shut and out of the business of other Ministers/Departments/the Taoiseach- it doesn't exactly bode well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Somehow- I can't see this working.
    If even Leo can't keep his big mouth shut and out of the business of other Ministers/Departments/the Taoiseach- it doesn't exactly bode well.

    He was always like that. He's obviously not much of a team player.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Bowie wrote: »
    He was always like that. He's obviously not much of a team player.

    Well, if he can't play nice- who wants to take bets on how long before this 'coalition' falls to pieces? The seams are already coming apart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    SMEs and Sole Traders are angry. They are having to negotiate with their insurers, suppliers and loan providers. And they no longer have a date to work towards to re-start trading.
    People in nusing homes are subject to visits that are worse than visits to prisioners.
    And the smug do gooders say that we are "All in this together". Such ignorance is disgusting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Scoondal wrote: »
    SMEs and Sole Traders are angry. They are having to negotiate with their insurers, suppliers and loan providers. And they no longer have a date to work towards to re-start trading.
    People in nusing homes are subject to visits that are worse than visits to prisioners.
    And the smug do gooders say that we are "All in this together". Such ignorance is disgusting.

    So what would you do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    I get safety concerns and am on board.
    How does one justify opening schools, but not pubs, unless they sell food. Is steak and Kidney pie or crayons a deterant to Covid 19?
    Worse case in a pub people act like children and don't observe social distancing...unlike children who...wait a minute..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Leo Varadakar tells restaurants and bars selling food that "customers should be off the premises by 11".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So what would you do?

    Let these people come off social welfare and operate their business in the same way that other business operates. It's called faireness for all.
    Does anyone else have questions ?


  • Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Does anyone else have questions ?

    If the pubs and clubs open as normal and we have an explosion of covid. What would you do then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Let these people come off social welfare and operate their business in the same way that other business operates. It's called faireness for all.
    Does anyone else have questions ?

    So mass murder is your answer?

    That’s what the government would be accused of if we have a large outbreak


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    A pub with food verses a pub without food?

    A school verses a pub?

    Nightclubs won't work. I'm down with the Footloose rule of no dancing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bowie wrote: »
    I get safety concerns and am on board.
    How does one justify opening schools, but not pubs, unless they sell food. Is steak and Kidney pie or crayons a deterant to Covid 19?
    Worse case in a pub people act like children and don't observe social distancing...unlike children who...wait a minute..

    You do understand the difference between a restaurant which is set up to feed people and a pub which is set up to get people drunk?

    I don’t see why this is so difficult, we can use crayons as you refer to in your post, unfortunately on Ireland we have a grey area but opening up all establishments at this stage would be a disaster, do you not think so?

    Your reference to child is well.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    If the pubs and clubs open as normal and we have an explosion of covid. What would you do then?

    If there is a confirmed case related to a venue, then we simply do contact tracing.
    The opening of pubs and venues will adhere to public health guidelines. It will be table sevice and taking names and phone numbers. It will be a controlled environment.
    Restaurants and eating pubs have been open since 29 June doing this.
    Why can't I have a pint outside when other people are having coffee or fanta ?
    Any more questions ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So mass murder is your answer?

    That’s what the government would be accused of if we have a large outbreak

    No, I do not advocate mass murder. That is a bad solution to a virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So now you want to tell people what they can/can’t do with their money?

    I thought it was Paddy the Plasterer's money? Hard to keep up with De Bertie. At least Father Ted had an account for his corrupt money to rest I.

    You really will defend your party to end. Grim.

    * cue "but shur it was ages ago and something something Sinn Féin" *


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You do understand the difference between a restaurant which is set up to feed people and a pub which is set up to get people drunk?

    I don’t see why this is so difficult, we can use crayons as you refer to in your post, unfortunately on Ireland we have a grey area but opening up all establishments at this stage would be a disaster, do you not think so?

    Your reference to child is well.....

    If you are afraid of getting the virus, you should isolate. That is the government advice. Other people can live their own lives as they wish, adhering to advice or not. Advice is not regulations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So mass murder is your answer?

    That’s what the government would be accused of if we have a large outbreak

    Jesus that's quite a leap, even for you.


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