Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

JP Liz V1 · 02-08-2020 08:32PM

We need to be fighting that damn Covid not each other

spookwoman · 02-08-2020 08:34PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Absolutely, it’s an Internet forum. There’s going to be people with different outlooks on the pandemic and personally I believe there’s lots of potential for optimists and pessimists to have good healthy debate. Unfortunately we saw lots of personal attacks on the pessimists early on and now we’re seeing similar for the optimists.

It’s a shame as lots of the replies in the last 24 hrs from both sides could have been written a little less personally and without referring to posters’ history and it would have been a decent discussion.

The problem is that people cope different ways, some catastrophise while others seek out good news. All posts will have a slant or viewpoint depending on the poster. Just a pity really.

Yes, even though the numbers are very stable at the moment the daily reports can show a lot of movements from day to day, even if totals remain the exact same.

If you go back you will see a trend that anyone who posts anything deemed negative gets piled on by the same posters. Same posters now turning on the waterworks.
There is a lot of pots calling kettles black in here

JP Liz V1 · 02-08-2020 08:34PM

Myramar wrote: »

youtube.com/watch?v=so_SN5HMD0Q

I am amazed this is not generating more attention. 20% of close contacts refuse to be tested
when first contacted.(Day zero test) 50-60% of those who do take the test refuse to be tested again (Day 7 test) when asked to do so.
See 39 minutes into the last briefing.
This means that up to 65% people are not fully co-operating with the contact tracers.
Add to this the anecdotal reports from GPs that people with symtoms are declining to test and also to self isolate until the test is done.

Yes refusing the test should not be allowed

Deeper Blue · 02-08-2020 08:34PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The information is out there online for anyone to copy and paste to Boards

Yes, and the lads post it here and I can then read it, which I appreciate as it saves me time and effort.

It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 08:35PM

El Sueño wrote: »

Yes, and the lads post it here and I can then read it, which I appreciate as it saves me time and effort.

It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.

Its grand i dont have the “life experience” to do anything else

robbiezero · 02-08-2020 08:36PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The information is out there online for anyone to copy and paste to Boards

As you do from Reddit.

Wolf359f · 02-08-2020 08:40PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes refusing the test should not be allowed

I'm not sure how that would work. I mean they need a court order to obtain a DNA sample.
Drink drivers don't have to provide a breath/urine/blood sample either.
Can't imagine they could get that quickly enough.
Would be better to quarantine people who refuse a test. That could be covered legally under current infections disease control.

ShineOn7 · 02-08-2020 08:41PM

robbiezero wrote: »

As you do from Reddit.

Yes

And I credit Laura from there every single time I do so

Point being, any of us can get this information. We shouldn't be putting anyone on a pedestal anymore on here for pasting information

FintanMcluskey · 02-08-2020 08:44PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

We need to be fighting that damn Covid not each other

Exactly, as lieutenant PaddyGreen has repeated, we need unity to fight the war on Covid.

ShineOn7 · 02-08-2020 08:46PM

spookwoman wrote: »

If you go back you will see a trend that anyone who posts anything deemed negative gets piled on by the same posters. Same posters now turning on the waterworks.
There is a lot of pots calling kettles black in here

100% this!

Wolf359f · 02-08-2020 08:47PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Yes

And I credit Laura from there every single time I do so

Point being, any of us can get this information. We shouldn't be putting anyone on a pedestal anymore on here for pasting information

Ah there's a difference. You post the detailed info which alot of people do be looking for. It's just straight info which people make assumptions from.

ACE posts figures and then makes or picks out key details and comes to a certain conclusions. Like only 4 community transmission cases from today. It's a key piece of info which needs to be pointed out.

Then you have Kermit who literally went looking for the worse effected country/stat daily and just dumped the info randomly without any context. Which I kinda miss actually. Was good to get people discussing it.

Plumbthedepths · 02-08-2020 08:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Its grand i dont have the “life experience” to do anything else

Non ergo in te vocabo. ;-)

Myramar · 02-08-2020 08:48PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes refusing the test should not be allowed

Well maybe, but before they do that at least you would expect them (and our wonderful media) to start making a lot more noise about it than they are. I mean, it's all about pubs opening.

The HorsesMouth · 02-08-2020 08:49PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

100% this!

You do realise you are doing the exact same thing?

SPDUB · 02-08-2020 08:49PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I'm not sure how that would work. I mean they need a court order to obtain a DNA sample.
Drink drivers don't have to provide a breath/urine/blood sample either.
Can't imagine they could get that quickly enough.
Would be better to quarantine people who refuse a test. That could be covered legally under current infections disease control.

If you don't provide a sample for drink driving you are deemed to be guilty though

So use some variation of that to levy fines , detention or whatever

Micky 32 · 02-08-2020 08:51PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

100% this!

Jesus do you ever quit ?

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 08:52PM

spookwoman wrote: »

If you go back you will see a trend that anyone who posts anything deemed negative gets piled on by the same posters. Same posters now turning on the waterworks.
There is a lot of pots calling kettles black in here

Name one time I've launched a personal attack on a poster here. Name one.

ShineOn7 · 02-08-2020 08:54PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Ah there's a difference. You post the detailed info which alot of people do be looking for. It's just straight info which people make assumptions from.

ACE posts figures and then makes or picks out key details and comes to a certain conclusions. Like only 4 community transmission cases from today. It's a key piece of info which needs to be pointed out.

He's literally copying and pasting information from the Data Hub online

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 08:54PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

He's literally copying and pasting information from the Data Hub online

You literally copy and paste information from Reddit

Beanybabog · 02-08-2020 08:55PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I'm not sure how that would work. I mean they need a court order to obtain a DNA sample.
Drink drivers don't have to provide a breath/urine/blood sample either.
Can't imagine they could get that quickly enough.
Would be better to quarantine people who refuse a test. That could be covered legally under current infections disease control.

I doubt it, I believe the legislation refers to people being a “probable” source of infection. At current testing positivity rates your much more likely to get a negative than a positive so you wouldn’t be a probable source arguably... I imagine it would challenged in court immediately.

Wolf359f · 02-08-2020 08:55PM

SPDUB wrote: »

If you don't provide a sample for drink driving you are deemed to be guilty though

So use some variation of that to levy fines , detention or whatever

I could have sworn there is existing laws dating back to the time of TB, that gave powers to detain people who could be contagious. Being a close contact of a confirmed case could be just cause to enact it.
A few media reports of people in hazmat suits dragging people to a quarantine facility.... Haha would be like china. But if they start identifying close contacts of someone who refused a test, then it would certainly need to be looked at.

Arghus · 02-08-2020 08:55PM

You did question whether I was ignorant the last day, when I was debating with you in good faith.

Felt that was a bit below the belt myself.

But, I can move on...

Gruffalux · 02-08-2020 08:55PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Exactly, as lieutenant PaddyGreen has repeated, we need unity to fight the war on Covid.

Ahh Paddygreen... it is his sincerity that really buoys me up. Another day in the covid sh1t show but knowing Paddygreen is there alongside us clapping with his mask on makes it feel easier somehow.

Itssoeasy · 02-08-2020 08:56PM

Is boards very slow for other posters. I keep getting returned to a page or two back from the most recent. It's making this thread hard to keep up with.

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 08:57PM

Arghus wrote: »

You did question whether I was ignorant the last day, when I was debating with you in good faith.

Felt that was a bit below the belt myself.

But, I can move on...

I think you're one of the better posters on here to be honest, if that comes across as an attack then I apologise. I've no issue admitting when I'm wrong.

Boggles · 02-08-2020 08:57PM

SPDUB wrote: »

So use some variation of that to levy fines , detention or whatever

I remember being tested for TB about 20 years, couple of the lads got it.

The Health Board absolute shát itself and went into Defcon 17.

I could be misremembering but at the back of mind I think there was some sort of legal threat made if I didn't get the test.

Wolf359f · 02-08-2020 08:58PM

Beanybabog wrote: »

I doubt it, I believe the legislation refers to people being a “probable” source of infection. At current testing positivity rates your much more likely to get a negative than a positive so you wouldn’t be a probable source arguably... I imagine it would challenged in court immediately.

It depends, the current testing positively rate is for all tests, hospital, community, contact tracing.
I'm sure the positivity rate in clusters is much, much higher.

John O.Groats · 02-08-2020 08:59PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Is boards very slow for other posters. I keep getting returned to a page or two back from the most recent. It's making this thread hard to keep up with.

Fine for me anyway.

Renjit · 02-08-2020 08:59PM

Looks like its a game of wait and watch now to see where the boat swerves. I expect we see more compliance from people to keep this under control. The new normal wont be the old habits.

JP Liz V1 · 02-08-2020 08:59PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Is boards very slow for other posters. I keep getting returned to a page or two back from the most recent. It's making this thread hard to keep up with.

It's a head wrecking disaster today again

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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