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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    I'm fairly certain it has beaten out the well-publicized Offaly meat factory

    Oh yeah, we're looking at well over 100+ cases linked to the Kildare factory now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Said it before I hope the HSA have a proper look at that factory and how it got to the level it did.

    Considering the industry involved I suspect involves low pay and many people living in close proximity to each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Oh yeah, we're looking at well over 100+ cases linked to the Kildare factory now
    I hope people don't act all surprised when we get a "big" number later and the vast majority are in that area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Considering the industry involved I suspect involves low pay and many people living in close proximity to each other.

    Yeah it does but even still, 40 staff alone at least testing postive, questions to be asked of the measures in place on site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,459 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 3231
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 34995
    Additional positive tests: 53
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.7%

    Note: 53 includes people tested twice etc.
    Statically 1/8 people have 2 positive tests.
    I would hope that if they prove positive on day zero they would still receive a test on day 7, which could result in a higher % of duplicate positive tests. Then again, they may not be tested on day 7 if they already had a positive day zero test.

    Positivity rate in the past 24hrs is quite high. Hopefully that's all the contacts been tested from clusters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Statically 1/8 people have 2 positive tests.
    I would hope that if they prove positive on day zero they would still receive a test on day 7, which could result in a higher % of duplicate positive tests. Then again, they may not be tested on day 7 if they already had a positive day zero test.

    Positivity rate in the past 24hrs is quite high. Hopefully that's all the contacts been tested from clusters.
    We will have high test results next few days as Kildare cluster gets sorted. It's a ****show.


    Very, very similar to the German factory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    We will have high test results next few days as Kildare cluster gets sorted. It's a ****show.


    Very, very similar to the German factory.

    Realistically with the plant closed a week now we're looking at the initial incubation period from that plant being looked at for at least the next week then contacts on top.

    It'll take at least the next 2 weeks for that cluster to work its way through the data realistically.

    Even then It'll still be marked as an active cluster until 28 days without a case linked to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,459 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    We will have high test results next few days as Kildare cluster gets sorted. It's a ****show.


    Very, very similar to the German factory.

    Be nice if they gave a better breakdown of the clusters. Obviously the dog food factory, but there certainly was another construction site mentioned.
    Would be nice if they said this cluster has an additional x number of cases associated to it for a total of y cases etc....
    They don't have to publicise the company or anything.
    It would be nice just to see how many active clusters there are and how many cases associated to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Yeah it does but even still, 40 staff alone at least testing postive, questions to be asked of the measures in place on site

    Considering some of the staff are in direct provision with shared facilities the numbers will be large. The factory itself clearly has very poor measures in place.
    I work for a large multinational with 3 facilities in Ireland. No cases related to work todate but there has been some employees who contracted the virus in other settings. I do believe no loss of earnings during 14 day restriction has avoided work related cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,457 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    I love a trip to the pub but there's surely no way they're going to open on the 10th?

    Schools should be the priority in my opinion but that's a whole other can of worms.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    El Sueño wrote: »
    I love a trip to the pub but there's surely no way they're going to open on the 10th?

    Schools should be the priority in my opinion but that's a whole other can of worms.

    Just go to a pub for a meal costing €9, sorted.
    One thing that has become apparent throughout this is NPHET hates bank holidays, when's the next one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Just go to a pub for a meal costing €9, sorted.
    One thing that has become apparent throughout this is NPHET hates bank holidays, when's the next one?
    this weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    El Sueño wrote: »
    I love a trip to the pub but there's surely no way they're going to open on the 10th?

    Schools should be the priority in my opinion but that's a whole other can of worms.

    Sure there's plenty already open and I know people will say they're restaurants but 0 clusters relating to them since reopening what 6 weeks ago.

    Honestly don't see the difference in reopening them on the 10th with the same guidelines as now minus the €9 meal. I was out last weekend and didn't have the €9 covid protection meal, still standing. Booked in, details taken, temperature taken, table service only.

    Independent reporting today the trade off could be earlier closing times for pubs initially, similar to what they did in Austria.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    this weekend

    I meant after this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    I meant after this one.

    nothing till October


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Sure there's plenty already open and I know people will say they're restaurants but 0 clusters relating to them since reopening what 6 weeks ago.

    Honestly don't see the difference in reopening them on the 10th with the same guidelines as now minus the €9 meal. I was out last weekend and didn't have the €9 covid protection meal, still standing.

    Independent reporting today the trade off could be earlier closing times for pubs initially, similar to what they did in Austria.
    As much as I think that makes sense I really don't think NPHET will recommend it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    El Sueño wrote: »
    I love a trip to the pub but there's surely no way they're going to open on the 10th?

    Schools should be the priority in my opinion but that's a whole other can of worms.

    It looks unlikely at this point but we will have to wait and see what NPHET recommends next week. I would think that MM and co.will go along with whatever they state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Sure there's plenty already open and I know people will say they're restaurants but 0 clusters relating to them since reopening what 6 weeks ago.

    Honestly don't see the difference in reopening them on the 10th with the same guidelines as now minus the €9 meal. I was out last weekend and didn't have the €9 covid protection meal, still standing.

    Independent reporting today the trade off could be earlier closing times for pubs initially, similar to what they did in Austria.

    Opening pubs would make sense. Takes the socialising out of house settings and moves it towards a more easily policed environment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    It looks unlikely at this point but we will have to wait and see what NPHET recommends next week. I would think that MM and co.will go along with whatever they state.

    Which is exactly what Leo and co did. Despite people lamenting the absence of Leo's 'leadership'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    As much as I think that makes sense I really don't think NPHET will recommend it

    Up to government now anyway, if they don't then they're going to have to throw alot more money towards hospitality in grants not loans


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    El Sueño wrote: »
    I love a trip to the pub but there's surely no way they're going to open on the 10th?

    Schools should be the priority in my opinion but that's a whole other can of worms.

    Can pubs just organise food from nearby outlets, or do they have to have HSE type approved catering facilties in-house, even if the food comes from elsewhere?
    If the former, why aren't more just doing that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Can pubs just organise food from nearby outlets, or do they have to have HSE type approved catering facilties in-house, even if the food comes from elsewhere?
    If the former, why aren't more just doing that?
    My local pubs have a thing going on with the local chipper, which is a good bit down the road. HSE inspected and approved it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Can pubs just organise food from nearby outlets, or do they have to have HSE type approved catering facilties in-house, even if the food comes from elsewhere?
    If the former, why aren't more just doing that?

    Food from the local takeaway will do, loads already doing it and more could.

    Place near me you order online for the takeaway around the corner put in your table number and its delivered around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Can pubs just organise food from nearby outlets, or do they have to have HSE type approved catering facilties in-house, even if the food comes from elsewhere?
    If the former, why aren't more just doing that?

    Three pubs in my home town have done exactly what you suggest. Win win for two businesses.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    It's a bit confusing that this isn't take up by more pubs, given the concerns they have for their livelihoods.
    Three pubs in my home town have done exactly what you suggest. Win win for two businesses.

    Yep, my local too, but it used to have a restaurant in-house and has facilities for plates/hygiene etc. so thought that might be a requirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    It's a bit confusing that this isn't take up by more pubs, given the concerns they have for their livelyhoods.
    The only ones I have seen not open in my area can afford to wait it out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭gipi


    El Sueño wrote: »
    I love a trip to the pub but there's surely no way they're going to open on the 10th?

    Schools should be the priority in my opinion but that's a whole other can of worms.

    Just heard someone on the BBC news saying that in order to open their schools fully, they might have to close pubs again as a trade-off, given the UK's numbers in some areas.
    Might be nothing more than kite-flying....but....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The only ones I have seen not open in my area can afford to wait it out

    Yeah in my area there's 3 not open I think but the guts of 10 or more already open and doing a decent trade.

    Was in last night for 3hrs and had 6 pints, last orders 11.30 home by 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,175 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 3231
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 34995
    Additional positive tests: 53
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.7%

    Note: 53 includes people tested twice etc.

    Let's hope most of them are from multiple tests!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    California is the first state to reach 500,000 cases.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1289359218785439744

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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