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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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    #272
    cosatron
    Registered Users Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭cosatron


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    The self-help group been set up by robot owners is interesting, Lely really poked the hornets nest a few weeks ago with their its not the robot it’s the farmers fault stance, was glancing through the class action been taken against them by a large group of American dairy farmers and it would open your eyes to the amount of things that exists to go wrong with them...
    Whenever that case is decided if the verdict goes against Lely could leave them wide open here for similar

    any link for that jay.


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    #273
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,197 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    cosatron wrote: »
    any link for that jay.
    Page 6 in this weeks IFJ.


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    #274
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    cosatron wrote: »
    any link for that jay.

    www.roboticmilkerfailure.com has all the info on American case


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    #275
    cosatron
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    Base price wrote: »
    Page 6 in this weeks IFJ.

    Don’t buy the comic.


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    #276
    Base price
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    cosatron wrote: »
    Don’t buy the comic.
    Here -


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    #277
    cosatron
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    jaymla627 wrote: »
    www.roboticmilkerfailure.com has all the info on American case

    Feel sorry for them. Especially after losing the original shed in a fire.


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    #278
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    cosatron wrote: »
    Feel sorry for them. Especially after losing the original shed in a fire.

    Reading the stories in the class action would open your eyes re problems and costs with robots, unless you have top class dealer backup it seems they are a non-runner


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    #279
    Timmaay
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    Summer 2020. The year that grass growth was so good, but no demand anymore that lads are just topping it back into the ground rather than wasting the money bailing it anymore!


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    #280
    Mooooo
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    Summer 2020. The year that grass growth was so good, but no demand anymore that lads are just topping it back into the ground rather than wasting the money bailing it anymore!

    I had the topper going and the baler here the same week, mad for wasting money I am!


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    #281
    Reggie.
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    Mooooo wrote: »
    I had the topper going and the baler here the same week, mad for wasting money I am!

    RDU


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    #282
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Summer 2020. The year that grass growth was so good, but no demand anymore that lads are just topping it back into the ground rather than wasting the money bailing it anymore!

    And only a few weeks ago fellas were crapping themselves about drought...:).


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    #283
    straight
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    And only a few weeks ago fellas were crapping themselves about drought...:).

    They were the overstocked lads. It's the understocked fellas that are topping. I don't know where I stand because I don't even have a topper.


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    #284
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    straight wrote: »
    They were the overstocked lads. It's the understocked fellas that are topping. I don't know where I stand because I don't even have a topper.

    Topping or pre-mowing.

    Tested a 250hp tractor on 4m mower whilst topping and pre-mowing...5litres per hectare or 2L/ac which comes to €1 per acre!!!
    I smoke €27 worth per day of cigarettes...

    Is being the meanest, stingiest basterd some kind of badge for dairy farmers?


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    #285
    Grueller
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Topping or pre-mowing.

    Tested a 250hp tractor on 4m mower whilst topping and pre-mowing...5litres per hectare or 2L/ac which comes to €1 per acre!!!
    I smoke €27 worth per day of cigarettes...

    Is being the meanest, stingiest basterd some kind of badge for dairy farmers?

    How many cigs cost €27 in France Dawg


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    #286
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Topping or pre-mowing.

    Tested a 250hp tractor on 4m mower whilst topping and pre-mowing...5litres per hectare or 2L/ac which comes to €1 per acre!!!
    I smoke €27 worth per day of cigarettes...

    Is being the meanest, stingiest basterd some kind of badge for dairy farmers?

    I never smoked so never bought the cheap or the dear ones.


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    #287
    Wildsurfer
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    And only a few weeks ago fellas were crapping themselves about drought...:).

    Yeah remember there was a lad on here saying Irish farmers were mad to be so dependant on grass and we should go off and plant all sorts of crops grown in warm climate countries. Lucky we didn't listen to him!


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    #288
    straight
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Topping or pre-mowing.

    Tested a 250hp tractor on 4m mower whilst topping and pre-mowing...5litres per hectare or 2L/ac which comes to €1 per acre!!!
    I smoke €27 worth per day of cigarettes...

    Is being the meanest, stingiest basterd some kind of badge for dairy farmers?

    I wouldn't even feed myself only for the wife or mother or someone else looking after me. Definitely wouldn't pay for fags anyway. As for 250 hp tractor, well I've a wee davie brown and she goes for about 2 months on 5 gallons of diesel. I don't think she'd run the 4m mower.


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    #289
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Grueller wrote: »
    How many cigs cost €27 in France Dawg

    Waaaayyyy too many. I can get through 60-80/day.


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    #290
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    I never smoked so never bought the cheap or the dear ones.

    They’re all expensive Chief. 20box are a tenner now.


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    #291
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    Yeah remember there was a lad on here saying Irish farmers were mad to be so dependant on grass and we should go off and plant all sorts of crops grown in warm climate countries. Lucky we didn't listen to him!

    Recent history suggests that the lad might be right...it’s even illegal for tillage farmers to grow less than 3 crops!
    Then again the ould government will jump in with an ol’ bailout when the grass doesn’t grow, so all is fine...for now. Enjoy.


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    #292
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    The Green Party are in seventh heaven at the minute id say, current climate action plan has been scrapped by the Supreme Court and now a new one has to be drawn up, god help us is all I can say


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    #293
    straight
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    jaymla627 wrote: »
    The Green Party are in seventh heaven at the minute id say, current climate action plan has been scrapped by the Supreme Court and now a new one has to be drawn up, god help us is all I can say

    Don't worry about what you can't control. We might be all better off in the long run.


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    #294
    kevthegaff
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    Waaaayyyy too many. I can get through 60-80/day.

    Jaysus dawg I used to smole 40 and I thought that was bad!


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    #295
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    The Green Party are in seventh heaven at the minute id say, current climate action plan has been scrapped by the Supreme Court and now a new one has to be drawn up, god help us is all I can say

    Derogation worries continue son


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    #296
    visatorro
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    Gawddawggonnit wrote:
    They’re all expensive Chief. 20box are a tenner now.


    Off them 8 weeks. Was basically eating fags for the last year. No gimmicks or help just pure thickness. Not easy. Smoking 20 year's.


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    #297
    Base price
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    visatorro wrote: »
    Off them 8 weeks. Was basically eating fags for the last year. No gimmicks or help just pure thickness. Not easy. Smoking 20 year's.
    Well done. I bet your lungs are feeling a lot better.
    I bought 20 Rothmans for my sister recently and I think they cost €13.75 - that's over €5k per year.


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    #298
    whelan2
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    Base price wrote: »
    Well done. I bet your lungs are feeling a lot better.
    I bought 20 Rothmans for my sister recently and I think they cost €13.75 - that's over €5k per year.

    Thry dont just come in 20s any more , theres 24 packs too and others. Daughter had a list in her pocket for stocking the shelves in work. Hadnt heard of a good few of the brands.


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    #299
    Base price
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    The exemption for TB testing of calves up to 120 days is ending on September the 1st. Reading the article, normal TB rules will apply for calves that are over 42 days old on 1/9/20 if you wish to sell them.
    https://www.farmersjournal.ie/tb-test-exemption-for-calves-under-120-days-to-end-in-september-561868


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    #300
    Keepgrowing
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    Say my name wrote: »
    Our vet won't tell you which is which and swaps it to suit himself.

    Maybe it's just him.
    Reasoning is with him if people knew which was which it leaves it open to tampering with.

    He obviously has great regard for his clients. If our vet answered with that here it’d be his last ever call


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    #301
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    ah when i have last cluster attached to cow... i just switch from attaching clusters to cows to folding down trays and setting up clusters for washing as the last cows are going around... so u should be finished that side of it when last cows have exited.... we also have a deck wash(an absolute must on any rotary) so while im setting up clusters for washing the deck is also being hosed down.... we dont have much floor space around parlour (5 feet) so not alot of washing there either.... i have seen rotarys where u could drive an artic around the parlour such is the space between deck and wall of shed... looks great til u have u to go washing it...

    back to ur mans parlour.... parlour imo should be back beside where the new cubicle shed is.... cows are walking past and in front of new shed and there was no mention of that having to be scraped with a tractor and scraper everyday..... more work.... ideally cows and machinery should not be crossing each other in a farmyard.... easier said than done.... but it could have been done there.... it looks like he wanted dairy near the road for milk tanker... access for the tanker wouldnt be high on my list when locating the building....

    the only other thing i dont like is the race for testing by the wall... i actually cannot figure out why lads would put a chute along a wall.... and i also think chute is too long... will take ages to load cows into it.... race for testing here is in the middle of drafting area... access from both sides... holds a maximum of 5 cows.... we test as we milk... i slow down the deck to a nice speed where there will 5/6 cows will have arrived into holding area behind race just as vet has the 5 in the crush done.... works very very well.... vaccinating scanning and testing all done this way and works really well.... tried doing it all on platform like ur man plans on doing... will work ok as we used to do it but the system i described above works much much better

    We’ve given serious consideration to a rotary but having trouble with the top line figure. A few other things to be done first I suppose.

    We’ve visited several but in only 1 was there actually any labour reduction post installation. Some farms had one milker on a Sunday evening and that’s kinda whet caused us to pause as much as the investment. Have you reduced your labour bill?

    Seriously considering putting another parlour along side current set up. We were due to visit a few in the uk this summer but current restrictions have put a stop to that.


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