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    #182
    The Lost Sheep
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    https://tcrfc.ie/news/leinster-conference-of-energia-community-series/


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    #183
    Five Eighth
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    https://tcrfc.ie/news/leinster-conference-of-energia-community-series/
    Thanks for the link. Division 1 is wide open while you would have to fancy Barnhall, given their form in last year's 2A, to win out Division 2 but there could be some surprise results. A lot may depend on how seriously the clubs take the competition and which clubs have made new signings and which clubs have lost players. It look like there's going to be playoffs in both divisions to finalise who goes forward into the All-Ireland series. They are also considering running a Senior Cup in September ahead of the Conferences. A lot of matches. Suppose it will give coaches a chance to try out players.


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    #184
    The Lost Sheep
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    Five Eighth wrote: »
    Thanks for the link. Division 1 is wide open while you would have to fancy Barnhall, given their form in last year's 2A, to win out Division 2 but there could be some surprise results. A lot may depend on how seriously the clubs take the competition and which clubs have made new signings and which clubs have lost players. It look like there's going to be playoffs in both divisions to finalise who goes forward into the All-Ireland series. They are also considering running a Senior Cup in September ahead of the Conferences. A lot of matches. Suppose it will give coaches a chance to try out players.
    division 2 could be barnhall but then again division 2A can be strange in AIL and form one season to next can vary hugely club to club.
    I hope we see a proper senior cup in leinster as there hasn't been one for quite a while. Would be great to see all 18 senior clubs in the province. 4 full rounds with 2 pre lims.


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    #185
    FellasFellas
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    The J1 and firsts on the same day is the way forward even when we get back to playing full seasons. J1 games a lot can be Monday nights and weeknights which tend to suit people better with work and stuff.

    20's being on Sundays is also a bit silly, takes college students Saturdays nights away from them. I think if we could get to the space where clubs have 3 games back to back on a Saturday on two pitches, it would make clubs far happier.


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    #186
    The Lost Sheep
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    FellasFellas wrote: »
    The J1 and firsts on the same day is the way forward even when we get back to playing full seasons. J1 games a lot can be Monday nights and weeknights which tend to suit people better with work and stuff.

    20's being on Sundays is also a bit silly, takes college students Saturdays nights away from them. I think if we could get to the space where clubs have 3 games back to back on a Saturday on two pitches, it would make clubs far happier.
    far more on sundays than mondays and its clubs choice to play them other nights to be fair

    Majority of junior adult games are Saturdays and 20s moving as well to Saturdays would impact referee availability for many games.
    20s are nearly all in college so them not being able go out Saturdays.


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    #187
    Gatekeeper23
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    Former NRL player and Irish Rugby League international James Hasson has joined Lansdowne


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    #188
    luke9311
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    Gatekeeper23 wrote: »
    Former NRL player and Irish Rugby League international James Hasson has joined Lansdowne

    Can’t say I ever heard of him.. recently in the mtk or a few seasons ago? What nrl club?


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    #189
    Gatekeeper23
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    Played for the Sea Eagles and the Eels


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    #190
    luke9311
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    Gatekeeper23 wrote: »
    Played for the Sea Eagles and the Eels

    Seems there recruiting well this coming season with him, tadgh, Ed and Clive joining their ranks


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    #191
    The Lost Sheep
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    Naas coaching team for the season
    Johne Murphy head coach, Craig Ronaldson back coach and Andrew Kearney forwards coach


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    #192
    The Lost Sheep
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    Energia Community Series Conference Line-Ups:

    Munster Conference 1 (8): Cashel, Cork Constitution, Garryowen, Highfield, Old Crescent, Shannon, UCC, Young Munster.

    Munster Conference 2 (7): Bruff, Clonmel, Dolphin, Midleton, Nenagh Ormond, Sundays Well, UL Bohemian.

    Connacht Conference (5): Ballina, Buccaneers, Galway Corinthians, Galwegians, Sligo.

    Leinster Conference 1 (9): Clontarf, Dublin University, Lansdowne, Naas, Old Belvedere, Old Wesley, St. Mary’s College, Terenure College, UCD.

    Leinster Conference 2 (9): Blackrock College, Enniscorthy, Greystones, Malahide, MU Barnhall, Navan, Skerries, Tullamore, Wanderers.

    Ulster Conference 1 (6): Ballynahinch, Banbridge, City Of Armagh, Malone, Queen’s University, Rainey OB,

    Ulster Conference 2 (6): Ballymena, Bangor, Belfast Harlequins, City Of Derry, Dungannon, Omagh Academicals.

    Energia Bateman Cup Draws:

    Energia Bateman Cup Semi-Finals:

    1st in Munster Conference 1 v 1st in Connacht Conference

    1st in Ulster Conference 1 v 1st in Leinster Conference 1

    Energia Bateman Plate Semi-Finals:

    2nd in Connacht Conference v 2nd in Munster Conference 1

    2nd in Leinster Conference v 2nd in Ulster Conference 1

    Energia Bateman Shield Semi-Finals:

    1st in Munster Conference 2 v 3rd in Connacht Conference

    1st in Ulster Conference 2 v 1st in Leinster Conference 2


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    #193
    Stainalert
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Naas coaching team for the season
    Johne Murphy head coach, Craig Ronaldson back coach and Andrew Kearney forwards coach

    Looks like a decent set up


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    #194
    luke9311
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Energia Community Series Conference Line-Ups:

    Munster Conference 1 (8): Cashel, Cork Constitution, Garryowen, Highfield, Old Crescent, Shannon, UCC, Young Munster.

    Munster Conference 2 (7): Bruff, Clonmel, Dolphin, Midleton, Nenagh Ormond, Sundays Well, UL Bohemian.

    Connacht Conference (5): Ballina, Buccaneers, Galway Corinthians, Galwegians, Sligo.

    Leinster Conference 1 (9): Clontarf, Dublin University, Lansdowne, Naas, Old Belvedere, Old Wesley, St. Mary’s College, Terenure College, UCD.

    Leinster Conference 2 (9): Blackrock College, Enniscorthy, Greystones, Malahide, MU Barnhall, Navan, Skerries, Tullamore, Wanderers.

    Ulster Conference 1 (6): Ballynahinch, Banbridge, City Of Armagh, Malone, Queen’s University, Rainey OB,

    Ulster Conference 2 (6): Ballymena, Bangor, Belfast Harlequins, City Of Derry, Dungannon, Omagh Academicals.

    Energia Bateman Cup Draws:

    Energia Bateman Cup Semi-Finals:

    1st in Munster Conference 1 v 1st in Connacht Conference

    1st in Ulster Conference 1 v 1st in Leinster Conference 1

    Energia Bateman Plate Semi-Finals:

    2nd in Connacht Conference v 2nd in Munster Conference 1

    2nd in Leinster Conference v 2nd in Ulster Conference 1

    Energia Bateman Shield Semi-Finals:

    1st in Munster Conference 2 v 3rd in Connacht Conference

    1st in Ulster Conference 2 v 1st in Leinster Conference 2

    Too early set id say but do you know have they confirmed venues for the mateman play off across all conferences? Wondering if they pick a venue thats half way travel wise between both teams instead of a set venue been like they done with marys in recent seasons given thats part of a reason we dont have an ail this year because of travel


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    #195
    The Lost Sheep
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    luke9311 wrote: »
    Too early set id say but do you know have they confirmed venues for the mateman play off across all conferences? Wondering if they pick a venue thats half way travel wise between both teams instead of a set venue been like they done with marys in recent seasons given thats part of a reason we dont have an ail this year because of travel
    Will imagine venue for some finals wont be set until finalists known then best most suitable venue chosen


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    #196
    Chico Flores
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    There is a rumour going around that Naas asked to drop down to Group 2, the reason being they are very short on forward this season and then the doubling up of the 1s and 2s on the same day and potential for injuries etc. They are used to lads doubling up to play Sat and Sun

    But it wasn’t allowed.


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    #197
    Scottmactom
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    And they'd back themselves to maybe win group 2.. group 1, not so much.


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    #198
    The Lost Sheep
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    Galway Corinthians RFC are delighted to confirm their coaching staff for the new season. JP Cooney will once again take the role of head coach and will be assisted by Eoghan Masterson (Defence/Assistant Senior Coach), Simon Gillespie (Senior Backs Coach) and Kieran Marmion (Senior Assistant Coach). Kenneth Casburn and Derek Carlin have been confirmed as management for the senior team. Strength and conditioning will be overseen by Adrian Pilkington and team physio will be Rob Creane. Further appointments will be confirmed in due course.


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    #199
    Chico Flores
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    George Naupou gone coaching in Clontarf with their u20s and might be playing a bit.

    Can’t remember if its up already, Cormac Foley gone from Marys to Lansdowne and Myles Carey might be going to UCD

    Two lads from Barnhall gone to Wanderers too


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    #200
    Chico Flores
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Galway Corinthians RFC are delighted to confirm their coaching staff for the new season. JP Cooney will once again take the role of head coach and will be assisted by Eoghan Masterson (Defence/Assistant Senior Coach), Simon Gillespie (Senior Backs Coach) and Kieran Marmion (Senior Assistant Coach). Kenneth Casburn and Derek Carlin have been confirmed as management for the senior team. Strength and conditioning will be overseen by Adrian Pilkington and team physio will be Rob Creane. Further appointments will be confirmed in due course.

    Great to see pro players involved!


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    #201
    DelBoy Trotter
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    Mike Ruddock is off to the Ospreys, so a blow for Landsowne


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    #202
    Squidgy Black
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    DelBoy Trotter wrote: »
    Mike Ruddock is off to the Ospreys, so a blow for Landsowne

    Think it was known for a while, I remember the original announcement by Lansdowne had said it was likely going to be a longer term commitment than just the interim head coach job.


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    #203
    The Lost Sheep
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    Chico Flores wrote: »
    George Naupou gone coaching in Clontarf with their u20s and might be playing a bit.

    Can’t remember if its up already, Cormac Foley gone from Marys to Lansdowne and Myles Carey might be going to UCD

    Two lads from Barnhall gone to Wanderers too
    good for tarf. Have dealt with George a few times when hes been coaching schools and he'll be good coach. Hes been playing junior with wicklow for past while so good to see him back playing senior again
    Chico Flores wrote: »
    Great to see pro players involved!
    and all have been doing bits of coaching with various Corinthians teams over past few years.
    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Think it was known for a while, I remember the original announcement by Lansdowne had said it was likely going to be a longer term commitment than just the interim head coach job.
    Yeah think it was said at time it was announced he was going over that it would be long term
    Think theyll do fine with mark McHugh, deasy etc coaching then


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    #204
    luke9311
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    Yeah think it was said at time it was announced he was going over that it would be long term
    Think theyll do fine with mark McHugh, deasy etc coaching then[/quote]

    Yeah very true I think they will handle the job just fine marks a great coach and good to have past player experience along with Ben Armstrong managing the forward. I’d imagine you probably will see mike take the reins again somewhere in the future be it 2 years time or 5 years time etc having an Irish wife a family home in Wicklow and kids still in Ireland etc


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    #205
    The Lost Sheep
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    Discussion on off the ball on the league right now


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    #206
    Beau
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Discussion on off the ball on the league right now

    https://pca.st/episode/25de73b3-aa93-486b-87b5-020229fbdd27


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    #207
    Five Eighth
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    Beau wrote: »
    https://pca.st/episode/25de73b3-aa93-486b-87b5-020229fbdd27
    Thanks for the link. Interesting that the Crescent coach Matt Brown mentioned that because there’s no promotion opportunity this season they have had to sell the new season to the players in order to try and get them motivated. If it is absolutely necessary to only have one series of games in the AIL from January, why isn’t it possible to have top-four and bottom-four promotion/relegation play-offs in every division? Because there is only one series of matches, the team finishing at the top/bottom of their league after playing 9 games would not automatically gain promotion or suffer relegation. There would, for this AIL season, be only one team promoted or relegated in every division. This, I think, would be preferable to what is on offer.


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    #208
    The Lost Sheep
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    Five Eighth wrote: »
    Thanks for the link. Interesting that the Crescent coach Matt Brown mentioned that because there’s no promotion opportunity this season they have had to sell the new season to the players in order to try and get them motivated. If it is absolutely necessary to only have one series of games in the AIL from January, why isn’t it possible to have top-four and bottom-four promotion/relegation play-offs in every division? Because there is only one series of matches, the team finishing at the top/bottom of their league after playing 9 games would not automatically gain promotion or suffer relegation. There would, for this AIL season, be only one team promoted or relegated in every division. This, I think, would be preferable to what is on offer.
    top 4 bottom 2 playoffs as like past few seasons. Maybe IRFU just worried that the season may have to finish early or be suspended so this is just in place to be fair to all.
    Maybe if no promotion/relegation all divisions should at least have league playoffs for top 4 with finals all on in the aviva as something to incentivise players.
    Or while the bateman cup slightly expanding is good. reintroduce an all ireland senior cup for all senior clubs. 50 teams in the one cup


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    #209
    The Lost Sheep
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    Fixtures are out

    https://twitter.com/OldCrescentRFC1/status/1288877280006201350/photo/1


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    #210
    The Lost Sheep
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    https://galwaybayfm.ie/sports/corinthians-and-galwegians-learn-community-series-and-energia-league-schedules/?fbclid=IwAR0e7ursUHHZ0Xk8tjwdXJXrukDUzTK-D2_62KEuoIwLSdimE2YzF4CmZiY


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    #211
    D14Rugby
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    I see Terenure are saying they currently have 1,000 members, makes you realise how big some clubs are and makes you wonder what's going to happen with attendance when the season starts. Clubs will be really hoping for the 500 max to be in place by the time it comes around and for games like Terenure Mary's the clubs would want it higher to get some much needed funds into the club.


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