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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #3092
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Just awake would someone give me the edited version are there 80+cases today or are alot of them historical or linked to a cluster eg. building site. thanks


  • #3093
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    I know about Sweden but how are there infections so low now with no lock down they had only 27 yesterday in a Country of 10 million

    So those wreckless Swedes now have far lower cases than us...after all our lockdown ****e and moral judgements? Not a headline we'll be seeing from RTE tomorrow I'd wouldn't think.


  • #3094
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    speckle wrote: »
    Just awake would someone give me the edited version are there 80+cases today or are alot of them historical or linked to a cluster eg. building site. thanks

    Yes, going back to 7 to 10 days. Workplace clusters mostly afaik that have been detected and monitored.


  • #3095
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    speckle wrote: »
    Just awake would someone give me the edited version are there 80+cases today or are alot of them historical or linked to a cluster eg. building site. thanks

    Related to a few clusters, main one being a factory in Naas and also linked to employees there living in DP.


  • #3096
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Onesea wrote: »
    There is nothing scientific about what she said. Common sense actually. A surge in numbers of detection but no surge in people being hospitalised. I'm really glad I don't live in Ireland. Everything here has been normal for months.

    I am also glad you don't live in Ireland.


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  • #3097
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yes, going back to 7 to 10 days. Workplace clusters mostly afaik that have been detected and monitored.

    thanks...good detected and monitored. hopefully all will recover well due to age profile etc.


  • #3098
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Arghus wrote: »
    I am also glad you don't live in Ireland.

    Why because you only want people here that have the same opinion and perspective as you?


  • #3099
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    road_high wrote: »
    So those wreckless Swedes now have far lower cases than us...after all our lockdown ****e and moral judgements? Not a headline we'll be seeing from RTE tomorrow I'd wouldn't think.

    While most will comment (correctly) that they’ve had a high death rate compared to neighbours, it’s not the worst death rate globally and interesting that they’re trending down and ICUs are emptying slowly.

    I do think the key takeaway there is that Sweden without lockdown does invalidate a lot of models that spoke of uncontainable exponential growth.

    Yes they had a somewhat self-policed “lockdown” with those who can work from home, etc. You’ll also hear others comment that their economy took just as much of a hit and the gamble didn’t pay off, but their unemployment rate isn’t so bad comparatively, and most of their economic hit is a result of the rest of the world shutting down.


  • #3100
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    No country is following a policy of zero cases. We are a small open economy dependent on Foreign Dorevt Investment and free movement Of people and goods. We need to learn to live with C19 as we live with many other things. I was in a taxi and a hotel in Dublin last week should I quarantine? It’s a lot more cases than places on the green list.

    It’s worth repeating this is not a travel related illness, travel does not aid transmission, this is completely behavioural related, if you follow the WHO advice: distancing, hygiene etc you are just as safe travelling as you would be in a shop or on a street
    Except that it's difficult to practice the same distancing as you can in a shop or on the street when you are stuck in a metal tube with 150 to 200 other travellers for a few hours.


  • #3101
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    road_high wrote: »
    Why because you only want people here that have the same opinion and perspective as you?

    Yes, I want a totalitarian state with me as Emperor for life.


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  • #3102
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    road_high wrote: »
    So those wreckless Swedes now have far lower cases than us...after all our lockdown ****e and moral judgements? Not a headline we'll be seeing from RTE tomorrow I'd wouldn't think.

    Took them 80000 cases and almost 6000 deaths it get this far.


  • #3103
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    speckle wrote: »
    thanks...good detected and monitored. hopefully all will recover well due to age profile etc.

    The contact tracing and intervention has been excellent in containing local outbreaks.

    This seems to be the key to avoiding a reimplementation of broader lockdown with all the economic and social hardship it brings.


  • #3104
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    peasant wrote: »
    Just on a side note, Germany had similar (if bigger) problems with meat factories and abattoirs as well.

    In consequence Germany now has legislated that only permanent workers may work in meat factories...no more sub-contractor shenannigans.

    We should push for the same thing here.

    Any company that makes a fortune like they do should not be allowed contractors anyway. It’s just an excuse tone able to get rid of employees quicker


  • #3105
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Took them 80000 cases and almost 6000 deaths it get this far.

    Are those figures that far off ours really? Their population is over ten million. There is too much deluded back slapping about our supposedly amazing approach when in reality we are little better than many others with far less restrictive or long in duration lockdown. One could almost conclude much of it was an utter waste of time and resources


  • #3106
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,425 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Drug Driving up by 106%
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  • #3107
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Took them 80000 cases and almost 6000 deaths it get this far.

    I think the Swedish people themselves are quite civic minded and have adhered to common sense social distancing measures (according to an interview I listened to) . It's a measure of a cohesive society.


  • #3108
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    This is probably the safest way to proceed. It’s very clear that you can follow the rules and return to some form of normality. It also doesn’t punish some businesses for the inaction of others that happen to be in the same industry. If this goes on for a long time, it’ll happen naturally as people will probably support the places they feel safer. But blanket “all pubs closed” or even the earlier “no hardware stores open” type rules are unsustainable.

    Which state are you in?

    Nevada. Bars in a few counties are still closed for another week but I presume they will be allowed to reopen once he announces further details of the plan going forward which he will do on Monday. From now on closures will be targeted towards those places not following the rules or specific zip codes if they experience higher numbers. I think its a pretty good approach and I'm sure others will follow

    https://www.ktvn.com/story/42417931/governor-sisolak-to-give-update-on-states-covid19-response-efforts


  • #3109
    igCorcaigh
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Drug Driving up by 106%

    Saw that. Bit sceptical though, are the Gardai earning quotas or something?


  • #3110
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,930 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    road_high wrote: »
    People buying a drink alone without food is “of critical national importance” now? Christ get a grip ffs

    You get onto your local TD and complain so, and get a couple of Thiamine tablets down your neck, you are very irritable.


  • #3111
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I think the Swedish people themselves are quite civic minded and have adhered to common sense social distancing measures (according to an interview I listened to) . It's a measure of a cohesive society.

    Personal responsibility is ingrained. Unlike here where many need the government and RTE to wipe their arses for them


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  • #3112
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Strumms wrote: »
    You get onto your local TD and complain so, and get a couple of Thiamine tablets down your neck, you are very irritable.

    I couldn’t give a toss- there’s more than enough Covid fruit loops and curtain twitchers telling tales to anyone bothered to listen


  • #3113
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    The contact tracing and intervention has been excellent in containing local outbreaks.

    This seems to be the key to avoiding a reimplementation of broader lockdown with all the economic and social hardship it brings.

    Agreed.... catch early, contract trace, contain and cure. They are definetly getting the speed and detailed work up, that is required at last. and kudos to the public aswell doing their bit.


  • #3114
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    road_high wrote: »
    Personal responsibility is ingrained. Unlike here where many need the government and RTE to wipe their arses for them

    The result of a government valuing social equality and civic pride perhaps?

    (sorry, OT)


  • #3115
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    speckle wrote: »
    Agreed.... catch early, contract trace, contain and cure. They are definetly getting the speed and detailed work up, that is required at last. and kudos to the public aswell doing their bit.

    Wouldn't recommend catching it though.


  • #3116
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,888 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    The result of a government valuing social equality and civic pride perhaps?

    Lol “the government” again...do you need them to pipe a bedtime story to you? Tuck you in as well?


  • #3117
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    road_high wrote: »
    Are those figures that far off ours really? Their population is over ten million. There is too much deluded back slapping about our supposedly amazing approach when in reality we are little better than many others with far less restrictive or long in duration lockdown. One could almost conclude much of it was an utter waste of time and resources

    50.5% more cases per capita and 59.1% more deaths than us.
    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I think the Swedish people themselves are quite civic minded and have adhered to common sense social distancing measures (according to an interview I listened to) . It's a measure of a cohesive society.

    That makes no sense, as their stats prove.


  • #3118
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    road_high wrote: »
    Lol “the government” again...do you need them to pipe a bedtime story to you? Tuck you in as well?

    More the culture I guess, which the government reflects, but there is a relationship. Anyway, OT.


  • #3119
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Wouldn't recommend catching it though.

    ooh no... typo meant catch cases early. Still clearly not awake here!


  • #3120
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Greater Manchester being locked down


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  • #3121
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    50.5% more cases per capita and 59.1% more deaths than us.



    That makes no sense, as their statsprive.

    What I mean is that the Swedish approach cannot be copied in another country with the same effect.

    I think the approach was daft, but mitigated by the culture of the people in Sweden.


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