Shed costs

A steel detector told me that a shed should cost about €7 per square foot for grant spec, painted not galvanised. So 45x30x7 = €9450

Get it galvanised for the few quid extra and you wont be sorry

True, the cheapest quote isn’t always the best quote, within reason of course.

tractorporn wrote: »

Hi folks have been quoted for a new shed. 45x30 ft sheeted to 6 ft with ventilated sheeting on two sides and two sliding doors. Its gonna be used for calving pens and a calf creep.

The quote came in at 11,300 erected and although I dont really know the run of shed building I dont think it's too bad. My dad on the other hand seems to think that this is robbery and we should look else where.

Is the price quoted in the ballpark for sheds? I am kinda keen to take the guy on as I have been trying to get this shed up since last year and this is the only guy I could get to price it and I've seen his work and hes a tasty operator.

Sorry for the long winded post but all info appreciated.

45x30 costing me 6300 plus vat as a kit so €7750 (vat claim 1,450)

charging you 4k to put it up and for 3 or 4 meters of concrete . Also the €11,300 vat rate will be 13.5% so vat58 will be €1344

Including the doors it seems good enough value. a teleporter is €250 for the weekend

whelan2 wrote: »

Time is moving on in the year too. Shed men are hard got

My man told me he'd be with me at the end of June. I just rang him this morning as the shed is sitting on site now for 3 weeks. Ah, I didn't know it was delivered he said, likely be the end of the month before i can get to you now.
I was talking to his wife yesterday and she said he had four phone calls on wednesday night to put up sheds and had to turn them all down, hence why i rang him.

As Tanko said, cheapest quote isn't always the best quote.
When the digger man was digging out the site he said to me Ah, you should get a price from this company, they did a shed for a man I know and were £2K cheaper than the man I got a quote from.

So I got a price from said company, but the spec was way inferior. He was pricing for 8x5 steels whereas all other quotes were for 10x6's. He was adamant that 8x5 would be sufficient in a shed 95x50, I disagreed thus why I went with the slightly dearer quote.

You get what you pay for. Steel, timber, tin and all fixings was £14,000 delivered if that gives you any comparison.

Said I'd post here instead of starting a new thread. Sheds here were all added to bit by bit over the years, round roofs and leantos put up over old silage pits etc. One section is damaged since the winter and looking at a good share of the rest it won't be long before the whole lot is needing replacing tbh. However I hope to try and put in 60 to 100 more cubicles as well as double the feed space so wondering have many pulled down existing and rebuilt? Adding to existing buildings that may need little work would be fine but when a lot of the existing will need reroofing just trying to figure out the best way to go

Tileman wrote: »

Anyone else finding it hard to get quotes for jobs. Planning permission got. Standard 60x40 a frame. Rang 3 builders and all of them too busy to quote. Want to get it on the current tams tranche but not looking likely.

Building job is manic at the minute, we run two artic cement tankers here delivering powered cement to quarries and last month was the busiest month the lorries done in the past 3 years, its literally non-stop

kevthegaff wrote: »

I had a shed put up 6 years ago but with no plastic ontop of the timbers and their gone abit dark, will they rot?

Is there spaced sheeting on the roof?

kevthegaff wrote: »

No

No reason for them to rot. Is there water coming in?

Cavanjack wrote: »

No reason for them to rot. Is there water coming in?

No there just gone dark, their bot bon drip tho

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

From the point-of-view of getting someone to do the work, it might be easier to get lads if you say you're going for a complete rebuild rather than asking him to repair a previous builder's work. That's been my experience over the past few months and hence why I'm now repairing a leak between sheds myself!

How bad is the roof you're talking about? Could you repair it yourself? And then add on with another lean-to to accommodate the extra cubicle spaces?

Or is it more of a "clean start" you're aiming for?

Haven't been able to get anyone to get back to me at all, looks like we'll try a repair job for this winter anyway, local fabricator and myself may get it done. A few sheets were pulled off and folded over on top. This shed is in the middle of the row of sheds so to speak. Cost could well prevent it but a clean start would be the ideal.

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

We lost our main round roofed sheds in Darwin 6 years ago and had to rebuild where the old shed was. Now, it's a great job in that the center line of poles between both sheds is gone as we went with a clear span but, sweet jebus, I wouldn't want to do it again!

Are the metal parts alright and just need the timbers and sheeting replaced? That would be time consuming but fairly do-able but supporting lean-tos and removing and digging out new foundations for a totally new shed is just time consuming and painful. I have no good memories about putting up that shed, not a single one:(

Tbh the uprights aren't great either, if a builder did come in it wouldn't surprise me if they would only do a full replacement and spending that much in the middle of the current layout just seems a bollox of a job tbh.

mycro2013 wrote: »

In the majority of cases you are as well off to start again. No point spending thousands on a roof only to realise that the poles and steelwork are goosed a few years down the road. Did a building a few years back where the farmer replaced the roofs of substantial sheds and left the poles as they were"grand " as quoted by the contractor at time. Having to remove and replace stanchions under a farm building is never fun, easy or cheap.

It will be never be as cheap as it is to do it right the first time. Quote both options for comparison.

That's the thing there are 4 or 5 different sheds that are at that stage, so putting money in to an area that's gonna need more again without actually improving the facility is questionable

Dozer1 wrote: »

Only beef here but that's where I was last few years ago. Bit the bullet tore everything down crushed all the concrete. Old shed and leanto gone to recycler and putting up the shed I want as we speak. 2 tanks new cattle holding facilities etc
through TAMS and getting a builder as both of us are full time off farm in high tax bracket.
It'll never pay but for the next 40 years I'll be working in what I want not a cobbled job. Everyone has different circumstances but I've 2 small kids so I want things as safe as I can.

Fairplay to you, hope it all pans out. It is the right thing to do but farm is the sole income here and have a fair share of debt already. Will have a loan finished the end of next year which will free up a bit of repayment capacity but the other loan is significant and the cost of putting up a new build at that scale may just be a bridge too far.
May just draw up plans anyway have a clearer idea. Would be grand to fire up a big portal frame over the whole yard and tear down every thing underneath it lol

whelan2 wrote: »

I put up a new shed last year. Best thing I ever did. Some comfort with it. Will do parlour probably next year along side it. One lad did all the work concrete, digging tank etc and steel work. Great not to be chasing other lads.

Did you go with a new site or knock the old out of the way?

Cavanjack wrote: »

No reason for them to rot. Is there water coming in?

A lot of what the dpm does is stop the treated timbers touching the sheet as the chemical use in the treatment will corrode the sheets and it will be the sheets that go first.

Timmaay wrote: »

If I had stuck out the winter milk I would of definitely needed to spent big money on better sheds, more cubicles etc, and gone down a similar route to you. Instead we've spent almost zero capital on sheds over the last few years. There are 2 main yards here, one with the parlour/milkers/calves, and a 2nd yard that winters maybe 40% of the animals, so I'm already split equally across 2 separate yards anyways, plus with a reasonably long grazing season here, it was another factor in just heading towards full spring calving. There are certainly some wet days when I do wonder why I didn't just go all out in the home yard and put up another big shed for abit of comfort and everything under the one roof, like you have ha, however by now I'm accepting that I'm down this road of a decent bit of straw bedding and just hire more labour them few very wet weeks especially during calving season when your juggling every last inch of sheds.

That's fine if current sheds are in good condition, but when they are heading 40 yrs old plus and need replacing?

Timmaay wrote: »

If I had stuck out the winter milk I would of definitely needed to spent big money on better sheds, more cubicles etc, and gone down a similar route to you. Instead we've spent almost zero capital on sheds over the last few years. There are 2 main yards here, one with the parlour/milkers/calves, and a 2nd yard that winters maybe 40% of the animals, so I'm already split equally across 2 separate yards anyways, plus with a reasonably long grazing season here, it was another factor in just heading towards full spring calving. There are certainly some wet days when I do wonder why I didn't just go all out in the home yard and put up another big shed for abit of comfort and everything under the one roof, like you have ha, however by now I'm accepting that I'm down this road of a decent bit of straw bedding and just hire more labour them few very wet weeks especially during calving season when your juggling every last inch of sheds.

It's not just for winter though. If we get a bad summer I didnt have enough space to feed them indoors. Also county council more or less made me build it. Good to have them off my back

Gods Gift wrote: »

I’m no expert but I’d say €1000000

Knock off 2 zeros and your somewhere in the ballpark.

Pinsnbushings wrote: »

Another question lads, it possible to get the grant on the steel work for a shed if you make it yourself and its built to grant spec.? The guy doing the drawings for me seems to think it's possible if you are a certified welder, which I would be. I thought you needed to be on a department approved list.

I think you must be CE certified. Also I saw some crazy rule when looking through the specs that if you fabricate it yourself you must galvanise it. I contemplated making a shed myself this year but when the 60% grant comes into it it wasn’t going to pay me for my time.

Seems farmers know how to get things cheap

18.5m x 16.5m

35k plus vat

Is that Rob Berry ?