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Shed costs

  • 08-07-2020 9:52pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ tractorporn


    Hi folks have been quoted for a new shed. 45x30 ft sheeted to 6 ft with ventilated sheeting on two sides and two sliding doors. Its gonna be used for calving pens and a calf creep.

    The quote came in at 11,300 erected and although I dont really know the run of shed building I dont think it's too bad. My dad on the other hand seems to think that this is robbery and we should look else where.

    Is the price quoted in the ballpark for sheds? I am kinda keen to take the guy on as I have been trying to get this shed up since last year and this is the only guy I could get to price it and I've seen his work and hes a tasty operator.

    Sorry for the long winded post but all info appreciated.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 331 ✭✭ TPF2012


    If galvanised, I think that is a good price. Not robbery anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭ Grueller


    A steel detector told me that a shed should cost about €7 per square foot for grant spec, painted not galvanised. So 45x30x7 = €9450


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭ Aravo


    Get another quote and you might be surprised that it could be within e500-1,000 of your quote. Was pricing for a prefabricated gate here, hard to get a quote as contractors are busy but they say themselves they could be very quiet in 2021


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ tractorporn


    TPF2012 wrote: »
    If galvanised, I think that is a good price. Not robbery anyway

    Its painted not galvanised, but I didnt think it was robbery either


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ tractorporn


    Grueller wrote: »
    A steel detector told me that a shed should cost about €7 per square foot for grant spec, painted not galvanised. So 45x30x7 = €9450

    Not far off so. The breakdown is 8850 for the shed and 2450 for two sliding doors sheeted on the outside and the bottom of the inside sheeted. That includes erection and hire of a teleporter for a weekend.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ tractorporn


    Aravo wrote: »
    Get another quote and you might be surprised that it could be within e500-1,000 of your quote. Was pricing for a prefabricated gate here, hard to get a quote as contractors are busy but they say themselves they could be very quiet in 2021

    That was my initial problem l have found it very hard to get anyone to quote for it and I want it up before this winter or else I will be another calving season struggling without it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,769 ✭✭✭ Good loser


    Seems reasonable to me.
    You liked his work and know him.
    That should do you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭ cute geoge


    Get it galvanised for the few quid extra and you wont be sorry


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ epfff


    My experience is if the guy comes when he says he is going to and finishes the job without having to beg to get the last few bits done he is cheep.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,025 ✭✭✭ tanko


    True, the cheapest quote isn’t always the best quote, within reason of course.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,838 ✭✭✭✭ whelan2


    Time is moving on in the year too. Shed men are hard got


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭ lakill Farm


    Hi folks have been quoted for a new shed. 45x30 ft sheeted to 6 ft with ventilated sheeting on two sides and two sliding doors. Its gonna be used for calving pens and a calf creep.

    The quote came in at 11,300 erected and although I dont really know the run of shed building I dont think it's too bad. My dad on the other hand seems to think that this is robbery and we should look else where.

    Is the price quoted in the ballpark for sheds? I am kinda keen to take the guy on as I have been trying to get this shed up since last year and this is the only guy I could get to price it and I've seen his work and hes a tasty operator.

    Sorry for the long winded post but all info appreciated.


    45x30 costing me 6300 plus vat as a kit so €7750 (vat claim 1,450)

    charging you 4k to put it up and for 3 or 4 meters of concrete . Also the €11,300 vat rate will be 13.5% so vat58 will be €1344

    Including the doors it seems good enough value. a teleporter is €250 for the weekend


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ tractorporn


    45x30 costing me 6300 plus vat as a kit so €7750 (vat claim 1,450)

    charging you 4k to put it up and for 3 or 4 meters of concrete . Also the €11,300 vat rate will be 13.5% so vat58 will be €1344

    Including the doors it seems good enough value. a teleporter is €250 for the weekend

    Thanks for all the replies everyone. Gonna go with it hes coming next week to peg the holes and I'll get them dug once the silage is cut and power on from there. As was said above the year is pushing on and I'd like to have this ready before calving next Feb


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭ AntrimGlens


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Time is moving on in the year too. Shed men are hard got

    My man told me he'd be with me at the end of June. I just rang him this morning as the shed is sitting on site now for 3 weeks. Ah, I didn't know it was delivered he said, likely be the end of the month before i can get to you now.
    I was talking to his wife yesterday and she said he had four phone calls on wednesday night to put up sheds and had to turn them all down, hence why i rang him.

    As Tanko said, cheapest quote isn't always the best quote.
    When the digger man was digging out the site he said to me Ah, you should get a price from this company, they did a shed for a man I know and were £2K cheaper than the man I got a quote from.

    So I got a price from said company, but the spec was way inferior. He was pricing for 8x5 steels whereas all other quotes were for 10x6's. He was adamant that 8x5 would be sufficient in a shed 95x50, I disagreed thus why I went with the slightly dearer quote.

    You get what you pay for. Steel, timber, tin and all fixings was £14,000 delivered if that gives you any comparison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭ lakill Farm


    A shed is pretty easy to check the specification

    Upright size
    Truss size
    Blasted & painted or Galvanised metal work
    Timber or galvanised purlins
    0.5 or 0.7 sheeting
    Any cross sections in roof for stability
    Gutters & downpipes included
    Caps and ridges
    all nuts and bolts , hex and stitchers included

    Im going to stand my machinery shed myself. only hired in labour will be someone to do the roller doors, block layer and plasterer for the walls

    My man told me he'd be with me at the end of June. I just rang him this morning as the shed is sitting on site now for 3 weeks. Ah, I didn't know it was delivered he said, likely be the end of the month before i can get to you now.
    I was talking to his wife yesterday and she said he had four phone calls on wednesday night to put up sheds and had to turn them all down, hence why i rang him.

    As Tanko said, cheapest quote isn't always the best quote.
    When the digger man was digging out the site he said to me Ah, you should get a price from this company, they did a shed for a man I know and were £2K cheaper than the man I got a quote from.

    So I got a price from said company, but the spec was way inferior. He was pricing for 8x5 steels whereas all other quotes were for 10x6's. He was adamant that 8x5 would be sufficient in a shed 95x50, I disagreed thus why I went with the slightly dearer quote.

    You get what you pay for. Steel, timber, tin and all fixings was £14,000 delivered if that gives you any comparison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭ Mooooo


    Said I'd post here instead of starting a new thread. Sheds here were all added to bit by bit over the years, round roofs and leantos put up over old silage pits etc. One section is damaged since the winter and looking at a good share of the rest it won't be long before the whole lot is needing replacing tbh. However I hope to try and put in 60 to 100 more cubicles as well as double the feed space so wondering have many pulled down existing and rebuilt? Adding to existing buildings that may need little work would be fine but when a lot of the existing will need reroofing just trying to figure out the best way to go


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ Siamsa Sessions


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Said I'd post here instead of starting a new thread. Sheds here were all added to bit by bit over the years, round roofs and leantos put up over old silage pits etc. One section is damaged since the winter and looking at a good share of the rest it won't be long before the whole lot is needing replacing tbh. However I hope to try and put in 60 to 100 more cubicles as well as double the feed space so wondering have many pulled down existing and rebuilt? Adding to existing buildings that may need little work would be fine but when a lot of the existing will need reroofing just trying to figure out the best way to go

    From the point-of-view of getting someone to do the work, it might be easier to get lads if you say you're going for a complete rebuild rather than asking him to repair a previous builder's work. That's been my experience over the past few months and hence why I'm now repairing a leak between sheds myself!

    How bad is the roof you're talking about? Could you repair it yourself? And then add on with another lean-to to accommodate the extra cubicle spaces?

    Or is it more of a "clean start" you're aiming for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭ Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Said I'd post here instead of starting a new thread. Sheds here were all added to bit by bit over the years, round roofs and leantos put up over old silage pits etc. One section is damaged since the winter and looking at a good share of the rest it won't be long before the whole lot is needing replacing tbh. However I hope to try and put in 60 to 100 more cubicles as well as double the feed space so wondering have many pulled down existing and rebuilt? Adding to existing buildings that may need little work would be fine but when a lot of the existing will need reroofing just trying to figure out the best way to go

    We lost our main round roofed sheds in Darwin 6 years ago and had to rebuild where the old shed was. Now, it's a great job in that the center line of poles between both sheds is gone as we went with a clear span but, sweet jebus, I wouldn't want to do it again!

    Are the metal parts alright and just need the timbers and sheeting replaced? That would be time consuming but fairly do-able but supporting lean-tos and removing and digging out new foundations for a totally new shed is just time consuming and painful. I have no good memories about putting up that shed, not a single one:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 350 ✭✭ mycro2013


    We lost our main round roofed sheds in Darwin 6 years ago and had to rebuild where the old shed was. Now, it's a great job in that the center line of poles between both sheds is gone as we went with a clear span but, sweet jebus, I wouldn't want to do it again!

    Are the metal parts alright and just need the timbers and sheeting replaced? That would be time consuming but fairly do-able but supporting lean-tos and removing and digging out new foundations for a totally new shed is just time consuming and painful. I have no good memories about putting up that shed, not a single one:(

    In the majority of cases you are as well off to start again. No point spending thousands on a roof only to realise that the poles and steelwork are goosed a few years down the road. Did a building a few years back where the farmer replaced the roofs of substantial sheds and left the poles as they were"grand " as quoted by the contractor at time. Having to remove and replace stanchions under a farm building is never fun, easy or cheap.

    It will be never be as cheap as it is to do it right the first time. Quote both options for comparison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭ Dozer1


    Only beef here but that's where I was last few years ago. Bit the bullet tore everything down crushed all the concrete. Old shed and leanto gone to recycler and putting up the shed I want as we speak. 2 tanks new cattle holding facilities etc
    through TAMS and getting a builder as both of us are full time off farm in high tax bracket.
    It'll never pay but for the next 40 years I'll be working in what I want not a cobbled job. Everyone has different circumstances but I've 2 small kids so I want things as safe as I can.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ Tileman


    Anyone else finding it hard to get quotes for jobs. Planning permission got. Standard 60x40 a frame. Rang 3 builders and all of them too busy to quote. Want to get it on the current tams tranche but not looking likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,350 ✭✭✭ jaymla627


    Tileman wrote: »
    Anyone else finding it hard to get quotes for jobs. Planning permission got. Standard 60x40 a frame. Rang 3 builders and all of them too busy to quote. Want to get it on the current tams tranche but not looking likely.

    Building job is manic at the minute, we run two artic cement tankers here delivering powered cement to quarries and last month was the busiest month the lorries done in the past 3 years, its literally non-stop


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭ kevthegaff


    I had a shed put up 6 years ago but with no plastic ontop of the timbers and their gone abit dark, will they rot?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭ Cavanjack


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I had a shed put up 6 years ago but with no plastic ontop of the timbers and their gone abit dark, will they rot?

    Is there spaced sheeting on the roof?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭ kevthegaff


      Cavanjack wrote: »
      Is there spaced sheeting on the roof?

      No


    1. Registered Users Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭ Cavanjack


      kevthegaff wrote: »

        No

        No reason for them to rot. Is there water coming in?


      1. Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 Gods Gift


        I stood a shed here last year myself and the father. 40*75. A roof. Not rocket science only time consuming. Pythagoras Theorem is your man.


      2. Registered Users Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭ kevthegaff


        Cavanjack wrote: »
        No reason for them to rot. Is there water coming in?

        No there just gone dark, their bot bon drip tho


      3. Registered Users Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ Siamsa Sessions


        Anyone throw a cost on a lean-to that would be approx 7m x 16m?

        No electrics or water fittings - just the bare walls and roof


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      5. Registered Users Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭ Mooooo


        From the point-of-view of getting someone to do the work, it might be easier to get lads if you say you're going for a complete rebuild rather than asking him to repair a previous builder's work. That's been my experience over the past few months and hence why I'm now repairing a leak between sheds myself!

        How bad is the roof you're talking about? Could you repair it yourself? And then add on with another lean-to to accommodate the extra cubicle spaces?

        Or is it more of a "clean start" you're aiming for?

        Haven't been able to get anyone to get back to me at all, looks like we'll try a repair job for this winter anyway, local fabricator and myself may get it done. A few sheets were pulled off and folded over on top. This shed is in the middle of the row of sheds so to speak. Cost could well prevent it but a clean start would be the ideal.
        We lost our main round roofed sheds in Darwin 6 years ago and had to rebuild where the old shed was. Now, it's a great job in that the center line of poles between both sheds is gone as we went with a clear span but, sweet jebus, I wouldn't want to do it again!

        Are the metal parts alright and just need the timbers and sheeting replaced? That would be time consuming but fairly do-able but supporting lean-tos and removing and digging out new foundations for a totally new shed is just time consuming and painful. I have no good memories about putting up that shed, not a single one:(

        Tbh the uprights aren't great either, if a builder did come in it wouldn't surprise me if they would only do a full replacement and spending that much in the middle of the current layout just seems a bollox of a job tbh.
        mycro2013 wrote: »
        In the majority of cases you are as well off to start again. No point spending thousands on a roof only to realise that the poles and steelwork are goosed a few years down the road. Did a building a few years back where the farmer replaced the roofs of substantial sheds and left the poles as they were"grand " as quoted by the contractor at time. Having to remove and replace stanchions under a farm building is never fun, easy or cheap.

        It will be never be as cheap as it is to do it right the first time. Quote both options for comparison.

        That's the thing there are 4 or 5 different sheds that are at that stage, so putting money in to an area that's gonna need more again without actually improving the facility is questionable
        Dozer1 wrote: »
        Only beef here but that's where I was last few years ago. Bit the bullet tore everything down crushed all the concrete. Old shed and leanto gone to recycler and putting up the shed I want as we speak. 2 tanks new cattle holding facilities etc
        through TAMS and getting a builder as both of us are full time off farm in high tax bracket.
        It'll never pay but for the next 40 years I'll be working in what I want not a cobbled job. Everyone has different circumstances but I've 2 small kids so I want things as safe as I can.

        Fairplay to you, hope it all pans out. It is the right thing to do but farm is the sole income here and have a fair share of debt already. Will have a loan finished the end of next year which will free up a bit of repayment capacity but the other loan is significant and the cost of putting up a new build at that scale may just be a bridge too far.
        May just draw up plans anyway have a clearer idea. Would be grand to fire up a big portal frame over the whole yard and tear down every thing underneath it lol


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