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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    D.Q wrote: »
    when do we next get to vote on these useless chancers.

    held on or before Thursday 20 February 2025

    suck it up thats what ya voted for :pac:

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Boris Johnson reckons the UK (he probably means England) is 2 weeks away from a second wave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭zinfandel


    fr336 wrote: »
    Boris Johnson reckons the UK (he probably means England) is 2 weeks away from a second wave.

    then why the heck does he not do something to try and prevent it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wadacrack wrote: »
    He used an article from Centers for Disease Control and Prevention its obviously a credible source. Six months is being labelled as long haulers by medial experts. You can only guess about anything int the future btw. Making educated judgements/analysis is what they are doing
    I think this has brought home how poorly most people process such data and the media doesn't help in the prominence they give studies. I am also not convinced that researchers help their own cases, unless that case is more money for research please. I'd much rather read this is what we've seen after x months and we will continue to track this into the future and report on it over the more alarming (could be) long term effect that will get the headlines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭eigrod




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    zinfandel wrote: »
    then why the heck does he not do something to try and prevent it....

    You mean another lockdown? Very pro lockdown myself but we can't do it again. There would be a depression and people would starve. Masks and precaution it will have to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4740
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 45460
    Additional positive tests: 46
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.4%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4740
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 45460
    Additional positive tests: 46
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.4%

    Oh dear

    Numbers won't be great tomorrow so

    Or will they be in tonights number do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Oh dear

    Numbers won't be great tomorrow so

    Or will they be in tonights number do you think?

    Couldn’t tell ya tbh I don’t know anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4740
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 45460
    Additional positive tests: 46
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.4%

    Looks like the transmission rate is increasing rather sharply now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Going to be a meltdown if we have 40 cases followed by 46


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Going to be a meltdown if we have 40 cases followed by 46

    It looks to me like a big cluster tbh thats very very unusual, we haven’t seen a positivity rate like that for a number of months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Looks like the transmission rate is increasing rather sharply now.

    No it doesn’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭redmgar


    Has to increase, the question is at what rate? Pubs will still open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,348 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Couldn’t tell ya tbh I don’t know anymore

    Until someone in the media asks the question of how positive tests correlate to reported new cases over a given period we will just not know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    GPs reporting no increase in cases. Has to be either travel or contacts that are coming through now.

    https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1287805288163217410?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Until someone in the media asks the question of how positive tests correlate to reported new cases over a given period we will just not know.

    Yeah for all we know this +46 could actually be yesterday’s positive tests. Daily average and GP trackers are the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    It looks to me like a big cluster tbh thats very very unusual, we haven’t seen a positivity rate like that for a number of months.
    A cluster will generate potentially tens of cases very quickly, I don't think we can read anything into those figures. There's also retesting in there I believe.

    There's data we don't have access to (e.g. number of contacts per confirmed case, mobility data) which I'm sure Professor Nolan and his team are using to predict the future growth rate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Going to be a meltdown if we have 40 cases followed by 46

    That has to be the biggest distraction derailment topic on this thread.

    "It's high -> explain it away"
    "It's low -> open pubs"

    What other ones have a similar function.

    PUP payment debacle distracted nicely from the school non plan.
    The drink driving minister was another good one.
    Green list provided a nice bit of confusion.
    Masks that actually infect you was a peach.
    American tourists infectivating everyone.

    BLM distracted everyone from the fact the BAME people are more susceptible to serious illness.

    Very interesting and confusing times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,348 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Yeah for all we know this +46 could actually be yesterday’s positive tests. Daily average and GP trackers are the way to go.

    AFAIK we don't even know does this include multiple tests on the same person or not. Transparency is a problem and until thats sorted there will always be 'freak outs' on the one side and suspicion of embellishment to suit a message on the other. Just tell the people how it works. And if its not forthcoming will someone from the media please ask those questions. How are we still in the dark on all of that 4 months into it?


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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4740
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 45460
    Additional positive tests: 46
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.4%

    Now this does look like an actual increas


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah for all we know this +46 could actually be yesterday’s positive tests. Daily average and GP trackers are the way to go.

    GP tracker can only be indicative as is self reported


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Boggles wrote: »
    Do you honestly think Harris going to leave the nice cushy ministry that was invented for him?

    Not a chance, I'm surprised he didn't head for the hills and pack it all in. He jumped into the new role with gusto which, even though an easier portfolio, I doubt many could have done, given how he damn near killed himself working 24/7 through the thick of this. Yeah he'll get grief over certain decisions and I didn't agree with everything, but he was doing as much as he could take on and very visible in doing so.

    So far all I've seen is Donnelly holding up the app for photos ops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    It looks to me like a big cluster tbh thats very very unusual, we haven’t seen a positivity rate like that for a number of months.

    Wouldn't be a surprise to be honest, seeing as of the 40 announced yesterday half were close contacts and as we know some close contacts haven't been coming forward for testing. Wouldn't be a shock if cases now were showing in the people that were refusing tests when initially contacted traced.

    Hence the whole point in getting tested if your a contact. Anyway its just 1 theory, could be many reasons but sure they'll never say unless a stupidly big cluster has been identified


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE

    Tests conducted last 24 hours: 4740
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 45460
    Additional positive tests: 46
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.4%

    On the flip side, ICU decreased to 5 (from 6) and hospitalised down to 10 (from 13) overnight. More decent progress and hopefully a single figure in this evening's operations update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    hmmm wrote: »
    A cluster will generate potentially tens of cases very quickly, I don't think we can read anything into those figures. There's also retesting in there I believe.

    There's data we don't have access to (e.g. number of contacts per confirmed case, mobility data) which I'm sure Professor Nolan and his team are using to predict the future growth rate.

    Just an FYI the close contact data is being relased again, it wasn't for a good while

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/integrated-information-service-testing-and-contact-tracing-dashboard-29-july-2020.pdf

    Of course it varies based on cluster size etc but gives an idea as to how many close contacts their having to deal with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    On the flip side, ICU decreased to 5 (from 6)

    That could actually mean someone died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Boggles wrote: »
    That could actually mean someone died.

    Sorry, should have noted the dashboard has 1 discharge in last 24 and no admissions, so not a death thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Boggles wrote: »
    That could actually mean someone died.
    It says 1 discharged. It says 0 discharges if someone dies.


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  • Posts: 18,047 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My three months of living in a bubble of normality end tonight. Bars and all that craic closed in Hanoi and I suppose I won't be going back to work either.

    A 107-day run of no cases broken.


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