FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

HappyKitten62 · 25-07-2020 08:40PM

MrAlex123 wrote: »

High chance they will be moved online. The Kings Inn exams have been moved online and they are also in August; https://www.kingsinns.ie/cmsfiles/entrance-examination/Entrance-Exam-2020-Notice-for-Applicants-MH-23-June-2020.pdf

It’s a bit late to be moving them online when they are in less than 3 weeks time. Kings were put online from the outset.

maewest19 · 25-07-2020 09:35PM

Hey guys, does anyone have past Tort exam papers + examiner reports that they would be willing to swap for past Company/Criminal papers and reports?

user115 · 25-07-2020 11:04PM

I have Blakstones EU Treaties if anyone needs one

MrAlex123 · 26-07-2020 09:04AM

HappyKitten62 wrote: »

It’s a bit late to be moving them online when they are in less than 3 weeks time. Kings were put online from the outset.

"This year, due to COVID-19 public health guidelines, the Entrance Exam is an online,
computer-based exam that is closed book and remotely invigilated. A candidate sits the
exam on their own in a suitable location chosen by the candidate and permitted under public
health guidelines. The exam will be conducted through advanced online assessment software
from TestReach, an Irish company based at UCD campus."

If it's a case of either cancelling or putting it online, it'll go online to accommodate the cursed intake of 2020. Hard to see the October sitting also not being online. This is good news, both sitting will be on

HappyKitten62 · 26-07-2020 10:25AM

MrAlex123 wrote: »

"This year, due to COVID-19 public health guidelines, the Entrance Exam is an online,
computer-based exam that is closed book and remotely invigilated. A candidate sits the
exam on their own in a suitable location chosen by the candidate and permitted under public
health guidelines. The exam will be conducted through advanced online assessment software
from TestReach, an Irish company based at UCD campus."

If it's a case of either cancelling or putting it online, it'll go online to accommodate the cursed intake of 2020. Hard to see the October sitting also not being online. This is good news, both sitting will be on

Those are kings guidelines! I really cant see it being changed so close to the dates.

Lallers96 · 26-07-2020 12:35PM

Can people stop speculating on things they know nothing about. That'd be great thanks. This is a stressful enough time of year as it is, nevermind with the ****e 2020 has going on top of it all.

Coulter97 · 26-07-2020 12:59PM

MrAlex123 wrote: »

"This year, due to COVID-19 public health guidelines, the Entrance Exam is an online,
computer-based exam that is closed book and remotely invigilated. A candidate sits the
exam on their own in a suitable location chosen by the candidate and permitted under public
health guidelines. The exam will be conducted through advanced online assessment software
from TestReach, an Irish company based at UCD campus."

If it's a case of either cancelling or putting it online, it'll go online to accommodate the cursed intake of 2020. Hard to see the October sitting also not being online. This is good news, both sitting will be on

Surely the exam will be marked much harder if its online - faster to type so more content and analysis and depth and case law expected.

Not trying to scare people or anything.

lsheehaneire · 26-07-2020 01:54PM

Closed book , that's not possible for EU. The entire structure of the exam would have to be changed. 5 questions (typed) is a very different prospect for candidates with such short notice. Let's hope we receive some confirmation this week. It's a constant nagging at the back of everyones mind ðŸ™ˆ

dobby896 · 26-07-2020 02:42PM

Coulter97 wrote: »

Surely the exam will be marked much harder if its online - faster to type so more content and analysis and depth and case law expected.

Not trying to scare people or anything.

Not necessarily, not everyone can be expected to have the same typing speed.

Coulter97 · 26-07-2020 02:58PM

dobby896 wrote: »

Not necessarily, not everyone can be expected to have the same typing speed.

Not everyone has the same writing speed either.

A typed exam can't be marked to the same standard as a written exam - the pass rate would be disproportionately high, and would be unfair for the candidates that didn't sit the typed exam. The only way to resolve this issue is to mark the typed exam harder - so a greater depth of knowledge and analysis would be required to pass the exam. Sorry to break it to people.

dobby896 · 26-07-2020 03:05PM

Coulter97 wrote: »

Not everyone has the same writing speed either.

A typed exam can't be marked to the same standard as a written exam - the pass rate would be disproportionately high, and would be unfair for the candidates that didn't sit the typed exam. The only way to resolve this issue is to mark the typed exam harder - so a greater depth of knowledge and analysis would be required to pass the exam. Sorry to break it to people.

Fair, I suppose we will just have to wait and see what comes of it rather than speculating at this stage.

lsheehaneire · 26-07-2020 03:05PM

With respect that is just "your" opinion. I have been out of the office since March, my typing speed would be well bellow par. I would much rather a written exam.

dobby896 · 26-07-2020 03:11PM

I've typed exams my whole life due to a disability with my fine motor skills and I've never been held to a different standard than those who have written the exam.

At the end of the day, it is about answering the question asked and getting in as much relevant information as possible in the time allotted, typing under pressure in an exam is very different to typing freely.

Coulter97 · 26-07-2020 03:35PM

It's a simple fact that the average typing speed is faster than the average writing speed. So therefore the exams can't be marked according to the quality expected in a written exam - it would skew the pass rate far higher and would make it unfair for the candidates that did not sit a typed exam. I think its clear that as a result the exams will be marked to a higher standard, at least insofar as the length of the answer expected. I don't want this either but it seems like the only fair solution.

Lallers96 · 26-07-2020 08:26PM

Forget all your talk of typing speeds. A friend of mine got this email off the law society on Wednesday.

https://imgur.com/a/iBk1uX8

vid36 · 26-07-2020 09:39PM

According to my sources, there will be more clarity about the August and Autumn sittings before the end of July.

hullaballoo · 26-07-2020 10:47PM

I will just point out that if you think the number of words you write has any impact on your exam score, then you need to reevaluate your strategy for both these exams and a career as a lawyer.

baloo21 · 27-07-2020 09:33AM

Hiya, does anyone have sample answers for Tort from recent years? I've only got up to 2015.

Louis Litt · 27-07-2020 11:29AM

Law Society confirmed this morning that letters will be posted at the end of this week. For anyone who has changed address since COVID/last sitting, you can still amend on your profile.

sunnylegal · 27-07-2020 12:27PM

Could anyone with an Independent Colleges manual for property (from the course that started in June 2020) please DM me, I have a question

Thank you

Iso_123 · 27-07-2020 02:58PM

how many hours of daily study are people planning on doing between now and the tort exam on the 11th?

HappyKitten62 · 27-07-2020 03:19PM

Iso_123 wrote: »

how many hours of daily study are people planning on doing between now and the tort exam on the 11th?

I don’t really do it by hours I just do it by topics. I’m covering 20 topics so I’m doing 2 a day this week and 2 a day next week. One big one in the mornings a short one in the afternoon. Papers and chilling at the weekends because we need downtime too!

Lallers96 · 27-07-2020 04:28PM

Iso_123 wrote: »

how many hours of daily study are people planning on doing between now and the tort exam on the 11th?

Everyone studies differently so I wouldn't be putting too much into how long others study, or how much someone else writes.

iamanengine · 27-07-2020 07:45PM

I have a feeling a Vicarious Liability relating to close connection test in cases of sexual offences is gunna come up...just throwing that out there :pac:

Healyjhow · 27-07-2020 07:57PM

Anyone have the EU paper for March or know what topics came up?

illy.m · 27-07-2020 08:19PM

Does anyone have any recent sample answers for EU and Tort? Mine date back to 2009-2010. I can trade in for other subjects.

Law101 · 27-07-2020 08:39PM

iamanengine wrote: »

I have a feeling a Vicarious Liability relating to close connection test in cases of sexual offences is gunna come up...just throwing that out there :pac:

Same I feel it or too!

awsah · 28-07-2020 09:08AM

Hello! I have just received my EU and Company law legislation books and I am wondering how people went about tabbing and highlighting it to make as efficient as possible for the exam? Thanks!

Aoibhin511 · 28-07-2020 09:13AM

awsah wrote: »

Hello! I have just received my EU and Company law legislation books and I am wondering how people went about tabbing and highlighting it to make as efficient as possible for the exam? Thanks!

I have my tabs colour coded by topic or group of topics that are likely to be mixed. For example EVerything institutions related it pink, Direct Effect and MS liability are yellow and Goods is green.
I did the same with company when I did it and it worked grand.

awsah · 28-07-2020 09:16AM

Healyjhow wrote: »

Anyone have the EU paper for March or know what topics came up?

I do not have the paper but an older post gave these as the question topics:
1. Essay: General Principles of Eu Law
2. Essay: Institutions and Types of Legislation
3. Problem Question: Direct and Indirect Effect and MS Liability
4. Essay: Judicial Review
5. Problem Question: Goods Article 34-3
6. Problem Question: Citizenship and Workers
7. Case Note
8. Essay: Competition Law (State Aid- Art 106)

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